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New reactionless motor from India
« on: August 15, 2015, 01:43:38 PM »

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Re: New reactionless motor from India
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2015, 02:04:26 PM »
That was covered a few months ago on R-G when the article first published.  Of course if the machine were really 250% efficient, self-looping would be no problem.  Yet, they don't do it.  The reasons are painfully obvious:  They measure VA products instead of real power.

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Re: New reactionless motor from India
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2015, 05:49:17 PM »
MARK E
I forgot..how's that go again ??

Oh yeah
"Nothing to see here folks...move along "

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Re: New reactionless motor from India
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Re: New reactionless motor from India
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2015, 01:46:03 AM »
MARK E
I forgot..how's that go again ??

Oh yeah
"Nothing to see here folks...move along "

 ::)
By all means show something interesting.  Show a motor / generator combination that runs itself.  Can you do that?  Apparently, in this case as in all prior cases of free energy from motor / generator combinations, nobody can.  Most importantly: that includes the claimant.

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Re: New reactionless motor from India
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2015, 02:03:54 AM »
Have you spoken  with the "claimsnts' ??

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Re: New reactionless motor from India
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2015, 04:53:07 AM »
Have you spoken  with the "claimsnts' ??
Why would I bother over such a specious claim?  Time has already eroded it as it does all these ridiculously silly motor / generator claims.  The first question that all these claims fail is:  Given that motors and generators are duals of each other, why does the machine need both?  If both are over unity, then only one is required.  If only one is over unity, then only that device is required.  If neither is overunity (which is the reality), then the claim is false.

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Re: New reactionless motor from India
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2015, 05:07:38 AM »
Tewari has been wrong for more years than some of this forum's members have been alive. And he's still wrong.

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Re: New reactionless motor from India
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2015, 12:53:23 PM »
Why would I bother over such a specious claim?  Time has already eroded it as it does all these ridiculously silly motor / generator claims.  The first question that all these claims fail is:  Given that motors and generators are duals of each other, why does the machine need both?  If both are over unity, then only one is required.  If only one is over unity, then only that device is required.  If neither is overunity (which is the reality), then the claim is false.

I know of a simple device based on a reactionless unidirectional force that doesn't have a dual, and I have it!  It doesn't fight it's own rotation, and it's doing mechanical work by lifting a heavier weight.  However, looping it is an entirely different issue.

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Re: New reactionless motor from India
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2015, 02:20:30 PM »
I know of a simple device based on a reactionless unidirectional force that doesn't have a dual, and I have it!  It doesn't fight it's own rotation, and it's doing mechanical work by lifting a heavier weight.  However, looping it is an entirely different issue.

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So you think that video demonstrates a reactionless drive do you?  You don't think the presenter is doing work or working against a reaction force?  Is that what you claim? LOL.

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Re: New reactionless motor from India
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2015, 07:04:07 PM »
So you think that video demonstrates a reactionless drive do you?  You don't think the presenter is doing work or working against a reaction force?  Is that what you claim? LOL.

It's the simple things that escapes and gets by us!

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Re: New reactionless motor from India
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2015, 11:12:41 PM »


So you think that video demonstrates a reactionless drive do you?

It's the simple things that escapes and gets by us!

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MarkE,

Where's the duality in this, that you speak of?  For example, a motor also acts as a generator, and a generator also acts as a motor.  The dual nature of a motor/generator opposes itself.  However, moving the heavier weight up and down by hand won't rotate the lighter weight, nor will it accelerate or decelerate the lighter weight in regards to it's angular velocity.  The most it can do is change the length of the moment arm.  If the moment arm is increased, then the torque increases which will accelerate the lighter weight.  However, the moment of inertia will also increase which will decelerate the lighter weight (conservation of angular momentum).  As you can see, the system remains unchanged and can't be ran in reverse due to an absence of a reactional force and will proceed with a uniform motion according to Newton's first law, thus a reactionless force is being demonstrated.  Since this has no dual and it can't run in reverse, then it also demonstrates a unidirectional force.

Newton's first law states, "an object in motion continues in motion with the same speed and in the same direction unless acted upon by an unbalanced force".  This law is often called "the law of inertia".  The forces remain balanced throughout the system and it remains unchanged and in a state of uniform motion, even while doing work by lifting a heavier mass.  There's no inertia (resistant force) in lifting the heavier weight, thus it can be considered a reactionless force.  In summary, this simple device demonstrates a reactionless unidirectional force.

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Re: New reactionless motor from India
« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2015, 01:14:13 AM »
MARK E
I forgot..how's that go again ??

Oh yeah
"Nothing to see here folks...move along "

 ::)

According to MarkE, It's more like:

"Nothing to see here or anywhere folks...so move along to nowhere".

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Re: New reactionless motor from India
« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2015, 01:24:16 AM »


MarkE,

Where's the duality in this, that you speak of?  For example, a motor also acts as a generator, and a generator also acts as a motor.  The dual nature of a motor/generator opposes itself.  However, moving the heavier weight up and down by hand won't rotate the lighter weight, nor will it accelerate or decelerate the lighter weight in regards to it's angular velocity.  The most it can do is change the length of the moment arm.  If the moment arm is increased, then the torque increases which will accelerate the lighter weight.  However, the moment of inertia will also increase which will decelerate the lighter weight (conservation of angular momentum).  As you can see, the system remains unchanged and can't be ran in reverse due to an absence of a reactional force and will proceed with a uniform motion according to Newton's first law, thus a reactionless force is being demonstrated.  Since this has no dual and it can't run in reverse, then it also demonstrates a unidirectional force.

Newton's first law states, "an object in motion continues in motion with the same speed and in the same direction unless acted upon by an unbalanced force".  This law is often called "the law of inertia".  The forces remain balanced throughout the system and it remains unchanged and in a state of uniform motion, even while doing work by lifting a heavier mass.  There's no inertia (resistant force) in lifting the heavier weight, thus it can be considered a reactionless force.  In summary, this simple device demonstrates a reactionless unidirectional force.

Gravock
No, it does not. There are reaction forces all over the place in that demonstration. You are just being silly now.  There are dozens of ways to make the reaction forces visible. I'm not surprised you can't think of any.... but those of us with a good grounding in statics and dynamics can.

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Re: New reactionless motor from India
« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2015, 01:44:03 AM »
No, it does not. There are reaction forces all over the place in that demonstration. You are just being silly now.  There are dozens of ways to make the reaction forces visible. I'm not surprised you can't think of any.... but those of us with a good grounding in statics and dynamics can.

Your reply is an argument by assertion with no scientific or mathematical rebuttal.  You have a good grounding in B.S.

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Re: New reactionless motor from India
« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2015, 01:59:59 AM »


MarkE,

Where's the duality in this, that you speak of?  For example, a motor also acts as a generator, and a generator also acts as a motor.  The dual nature of a motor/generator opposes itself.  However, moving the heavier weight up and down by hand won't rotate the lighter weight, nor will it accelerate or decelerate the lighter weight in regards to it's angular velocity.  The most it can do is change the length of the moment arm.  If the moment arm is increased, then the torque increases which will accelerate the lighter weight.  However, the moment of inertia will also increase which will decelerate the lighter weight (conservation of angular momentum).  As you can see, the system remains unchanged and can't be ran in reverse due to an absence of a reactional force and will proceed with a uniform motion according to Newton's first law, thus a reactionless force is being demonstrated.  Since this has no dual and it can't run in reverse, then it also demonstrates a unidirectional force.

Newton's first law states, "an object in motion continues in motion with the same speed and in the same direction unless acted upon by an unbalanced force".  This law is often called "the law of inertia".  The forces remain balanced throughout the system and it remains unchanged and in a state of uniform motion, even while doing work by lifting a heavier mass.  There's no inertia (resistant force) in lifting the heavier weight, thus it can be considered a reactionless force.  In summary, this simple device demonstrates a reactionless unidirectional force.

Gravock
LOL

 

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