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Offline markdansie

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Acetylene Engines
« on: August 03, 2015, 10:20:39 AM »



could be an interesting project. Just add calcium carbonate to water

http://revolution-green.com/acetylene-engines/

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Re: Acetylene Engines
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2015, 04:34:13 PM »


could be an interesting project. Just add calcium carbonate to water

http://revolution-green.com/acetylene-engines/

This one belongs on Energetic Forums, Someone like BroMikey can spend a few months investigating how Calcium Carbonate ( Chalk) mixed with water can make acetylene. Classic.

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Re: Acetylene Engines
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2015, 06:36:33 PM »
actually
its probably in a good spot here, this way the Big government types can get a jump on outlawing Chalk, altho I think Their busy with Anti pointy toothpick legislation ATM [very dangerous for the population to have access to pointy tooth pics  :'(.

I hear The UK has some Chalky Cliffs to harvest from :o 

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Re: Acetylene Engines
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2015, 06:36:33 PM »
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Acetylene Engines
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2015, 09:46:47 PM »
Calcium CARBIDE, not calcium carbonate.

Different stuff altogether.

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Re: Acetylene Engines
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2015, 11:11:52 PM »
Sounds like it would make very tuff chaulk 😣

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Offline MarkE

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Re: Acetylene Engines
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2015, 11:28:20 PM »
actually
its probably in a good spot here, this way the Big government types can get a jump on outlawing Chalk, altho I think Their busy with Anti pointy toothpick legislation ATM [very dangerous for the population to have access to pointy tooth pics  :'(.

I hear The UK has some Chalky Cliffs to harvest from :o
Dead sea creature skeletons don't come from processing lime with coke.

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Re: Acetylene Engines
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2015, 12:09:50 AM »
Mark E
Your late to the Party...Tinsel filled in a bit already.

Does it work with Pepsi Too.........?Hold the Lime ??
next they'll be outlawing cocktails .... :-X

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Re: Acetylene Engines
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2015, 01:41:50 PM »
                                              alternatively:

               0,4 Kg sand delivers 1MWh Power using the Usherenko effect.
              250 000 US$ the estimated average MW-plant installation price.
              inventor:
    http://leonov-leonovstheories.blogspot.pt/2013/02/theory-of-superunification-chapter-10.html
              and Vitaly Plotkin

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            acetylene energy engines are something more expensive
           I did in the 90' market value research about this invention and worth :

            https://www.google.pt/search?q=wolfgang+priesemuth+acethylene+converter&hl=de&gws_rd=cr,ssl&ei=zfbBVfrrHMezggT014QI#hl=de&q=wolfgang+priesemuth+acethylene+

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Re: Acetylene Engines
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2015, 05:28:50 PM »
hi lanca

can you give more infor on that 1 mw plant?
is there anyone who is commercially installing it?

thanks in advance

about the technology :
 http://patentsobserver.com/public/applicant/show.action?toShow=LEONOV+VLADIMIR+SEMENOVICH
the last one from the list I think so

and about the MW-plant http://www.ntpo.com/ therein posted as offer by Vitaly Pilkin

google translated from Russian to German to English language :
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An alternative method of obtaining energy reactor and for their realization. Instead of the gas used sand

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Energy - basic industries, the foundation for economic development, industrial and social sphere of the country. Without electricity and heat unthinkable operation of industrial, transport, housing and communal services.

After the fall of 2006 a specialized Internet portal "Information Center Housing Reform" (www.gkh-reforma.ru) and non-profit partnership "Russian heat" (www.rosteplo.ru) experts study "Prospects of development of power engineering in Russia" We have the following main conclusions:

    there is a lack of generation capacity;

    Equipment heat generation, transportation and consumption of 60-70% has expired;

    dated and worn equipment TPP and boiler causes low efficiency at work and increasing the number of errors with corresponding negative consequences;

    high number of accidents and leaks, the construction of heat pipes superfluous, resulting in high heat loss;

    cheap / outdated equipment, high losses, compensation for the loss of thermal companies leads to an increase in tariffs for thermal energy;

    the level of security in power is relatively low;

    is a promising introduction of modern technologies, so that in the future in order to transfer the heat production of economic resources as the basic fuel station - gas, which will increase in the near future, according to experts;

    Thermal energy is a very attractive investment industry.

It is interesting and promising in this respect it is the invention of the Russian inventor, laureate of the Russian Government in the field of science and technology Leonov Vladimir Semenovich, invented an entirely new power plant to generate heat energy. The uniqueness of the propulsion plant is that fuels sand reserves in the world are used (!), Are not particularly limited, and the cost of 1 Gcal of thermal energy in power plant according to the invention by calculations Leonova VS and his colleagues as the costs generated in the dirty boiler thermal energy, about 4 times and is 68 rubles.

The invention Leonov VS based on the effect of super deep penetration of finely divided solid microparticles in a solid metal barrier with anomalous energy release, 100 ... 10,000 times greater than the kinetic energy of the particles at the time of impact with the barrier.

                             ~ "Usherenko effect" ( Sergej Usherenko now also Ben-Gurion Uni-Professor )

The reality of the effect of super deep penetration by numerous experiments that proved conducted by various researchers and referenced on the basis of their scientific publications. , Forthcoming in Cambridge scientific work of the author of the present invention is the invention patent - RF patent number 2,201,625.

Calculations show that the installation of the invention have significant advantages over its competitors, including low-cost thermal energy production, cheap and unlimited energy reserves, minimal transport costs for the supply of fuel due to the widespread use of this type of fuel, environmental friendliness and safety.

Fuel for the generation of thermal energy. As fuel for production of heat energy in accordance with the invention it is possible to use different types of fine powders of size 10-1000 microns, including silica powder or another - Sandy powder. Calculations showed that for the production of 1 MW / h heat energy consumption of the process according to the invention requires Sand 0.4 kg / h.

As is known, the mass of the Earth's crust at about 12% of sand, so that people are not threatened shortage of this type of fuel. The sand almost everywhere distributed on the earth's surface, so that the production of "fuel" (sand powder) for installations for generating heat and electricity in the areas of application of these systems that minimize transportation costs for the supply of fuel to the point of its use organized to maximize fuel. Given the fact that the sand is of the Earth's surface its manufacturing cost is low. According to calculations based on the wholesale prices of various types of sand, sand is powder wholesale price of the required size for use as a particle-strike about 1,500 rubles. / Ton or 1.5 rubles / kg. Given the cost of packaging, the average cost of delivery to the place of consumption and other overhead costs no more than 3,000 rubles. / Ton or 3.0 rub. / Kg.

 ( For this purpose: "Sand as gasoline / fuel" http://www.plichta.de/plichta/siliziumzeitalter )

Comparative cost of production of thermal energy for various fuels

Comparative cost of production of thermal energy for various fuels. Currently, the dominant energy source in Russia for the production of thermal energy for thermal power plants and boiler gas (70%), coal (26%), fuel oil (3.4%). The structure of consumption of fuel for thermal power plants of RAO UES is a diagram. Below shows comparative data averaged for effectiveness of the use of these fuels with sand powder.

    Gas line. The wholesale price for natural gas in Russia in 2007, an average of 2,000 rubles. / 1000 m3. For a 1 MW / h of heat consumes about 100 m3 / h of gas. Thus, for a 1 MW / hr of thermal energy is necessary to burn 100 m3 of natural gas in an amount of 200 rubles.

    Coal. The average wholesale price of coal in Russia in 2007, including average transportation costs of delivery to the place of use is about 3,000 rubles. / Ton. For a 1 MW / h heat about 0.2 t / h of coal consumed. Thus, for a 1 MW / hr of thermal energy is necessary to burn 0.2 t / h of coal in an amount of 600 rubles.

    Heating oil. The wholesale price of fuel oil in Russia in 2007, an average of 6,000 rubles. / Ton. For 1 MW / h about 100 liters of fuel oil consumed by thermal energy. Thus, for a 1 MW / hr of thermal energy is necessary to burn 100 liters of heating oil in an amount of 600 rubles.

    Sand powder. Wholesale Price sand powder is about 3,000 rubles. / Ton (including the average cost of delivery to the place of use). 1 MW / h of heat energy needed to use about 0.4 kg of sand powder in the amount of 1.20 rubles.

The above data are summarized in Table 1.

Table 1. Comparison of average values ​​with different fuels for the generation of 1 MW / hr of heat energy

Compare averages with different fuels for generating is from 1 MW / h of heat energy


As can be seen from Table 1, the cost of production of 1 Gcal of heat energy by means of sand powder cheaper than with a gas of 166 times, coal - 500 times, fuel oil - 500 times.

Table 2. Comparison of data average annual fuel consumption and money in the development of thermal power plants with a capacity of 1 MW

Comparables average annual fuel consumption and money for die production of thermal power plants with a capacity of 1 MW
Environment and Safety

Sand powder is absolutely harmless and safe. Plants of the invention are additional "contribution" to the development of the greenhouse effect is not to create what is to catastrophic climate change on Earth, "waste" production (waste sand powder) a natural substance of the earth's surface and are not harmful to human health and the do not pollute the environment. Mining and sand powder and recycling of waste sand powder is no threat to the environment. Sand powder is completely safe, because not combustible, no fire hazard, non-toxic, environmentally friendly, and so on.
Carrying out the invention

After Leonov VS and his colleagues, the power plants of the invention may be 1 MW .... 1 GW, which allow them to be used as boilers and power plants. Plants of the invention may also be used to generate electrical energy.
Durability, cost and payback period SETTING THE INVENTION

Taking into account the amount of materials, processability, automation, and other parameters, including in comparison with the same parameters of the boiler plant life of the apparatus of the invention are at least 10 years, the costs of the plant are in accordance with the invention, a capacity of 1 MW of thermal energy in industrial series - max 2,5 mln. , rub., including the cost of the boiler water heating systems as an integral part of the apparatus of the invention.
                                                 ~ 100.000 US$/MW (2009 numbers)
Taking into account that:

    the cost of the installation of the invention is not more than 2.5 million. . Grinding, including the cost of boiler water-heating systems, as part of the installation,

    Life of the device of the invention is 10 years

    Annual gas consumption (as the cheapest at the moment type of fuel) on the boiler plants with a capacity of 1 MW thermal output is 2,030,000. Rubles.

    annual consumption of sand powder on the installation of the invention, a 1 MW thermal energy 12,200. rub.

    the average cost of boiler plants with a capacity of 1 MW thermal energy is about 500,000. rub.
    Installation of the invention pays off within one (1) year.

The concept of calculating the profitability of production units according to the invention is as follows: calculated estimate of the costs for the acquisition of boilers with a capacity of 1 MW thermal energy, gas operated, and the expenditure on the purchase of gas (in the wholesale prices of 2007) for 10 years operation of the apparatus; Similar calculations are made for plants of the present invention; other overheads are not included because they are running on the same in the kettle on the gas, and the plants of the invention similar capacity; Compare the different relationships between the outputs for boiler gas for 10 years, and the total expenditure for equipment according to the invention for 10 years in various sales prices for the installation of the invention, it is possible the approximate profitability of these plants with respect to the profitability of the overall production costs of calculate heat energy. In this regard, taking into account that:

    for 10 years, the total expenditure for the purchase of gas-fired boiler house 1 MW of thermal energy (500 thousand. rub.) and gas (20.3 million. rub.) amount to approximately 20.8 million. Rubles.

    the cost of the installation of the invention is a 1 MW of thermal energy is not more than 2.5 million. Rubles.

    for 10 years, the total expenditure for the purchase of sand powder, the inventive capacity of 1 MW thermal energy amount set at 122,000. rub.

Options profitability of production units according to the invention, for example, plants with a capacity of 1 MW of thermal energy are summarized in Table 3.

Table 3. Options profitability of production units according to the invention of 1 MW

Options profitability of production units according to the invention of 1 MW

You can also calculate the approximate cost of 1 Gcal produced gas boiler 1 MW, and the installation of the invention similar capacity. Comparative data are given in Table 4.

Table 4. Comparative data on the cost of heat energy generated in the plant with a capacity of 1 MW

Comparables Act on the cost of heat energy in plants with a capacity of 1 MW Creates
RAO UES data, die need for heat energy in Russia in 2010 (ie, die possible start of production units obligations according to the invention) is 1.447 billion be. Gcal

Based on data from RAO UES, the need for thermal energy in Russia in 2010 (that is, the possible start of production units according to the invention) is 1.447 billion Gcal be ..

Variations in production of the invention and the profit before tax, depending on the proportion of the market development are presented in Table 5.

The calculation scheme: the percentage of volume of production of thermal energy in 2010 divided by the number Gcal creates the conventional installation of fiction, 1 MW. Here, the number of the conventional devices of the invention is required in order to produce the fraction of the production of heat energy. Then calculate the amount of conventional systems of the invention is from the sales price (options) multiplied installation.

Table 5. Possible annual profitability of production units according to the invention, depending on the proportion of market development

Options for die yearly profitability of production units obligations according to the invention, depending on the proportion of market development

For various reasons, including the conservatism of the energy industry for new fuels and power plants, bureaucratic hurdles, long life already installed power equipment, competition, etc., it is useful to predict that the installation of the invention to 5% of the Russian market of thermal power generation - the first 5 years of their production can take approximately 3. So may be about 14 billion, the average annual pre-tax profit for the first 5 years of production units according to the invention. Rubles (550 million. $). In these calculations do not take into account the foreign market, which is exported to the installation of the invention, as well as the opportunity to benefit from the production plant of the invention for generating electricity.
CONCLUSION

As a result of the global increase in the price of traditional energy sources and the projected deficit in the near future hydrocarbon introduction of alternative energy sources, it was extremely important for Russia. It is clear that the coming years will be a period review of energy policy of the Russian government and a major upgrade energy technologies in Russia.

Author: Vitaly E. Pilkin

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taking the above used currency relation :

" So may be about 14 billion, the average annual pre-tax profit for the first 5 years of production units according to the invention. Rubles (550 million. $)."

14 Billion Rubel = 550 Million US$ then the
"2,5 Million Rubel MW-plant" was costs estimated with under 100.000 US$/MW

when this becomes / is reality it would mean an average 0,002 US$/KWh heat generation price. ( 10 years plant amortization and 0,05 US$/MWh fuel costs) not including laborator costs :
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