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Author Topic: 'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours  (Read 46748 times)

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Re: 'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours
« Reply #285 on: August 15, 2015, 06:24:09 AM »
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I have never asserted that anyone must accept my conclusions based on my qualifications, or the qualifications of anyone else.


So when you say this or that is a false clam what do you mean by this exactly if it is not an assertion that you believe the facts are false in some way?. I mean do you have tangible proof it is false or is this just some random guess on your part based on your own personal beliefs. I mean do you have tangible proof or not so much?.






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I have for each position I have offered pointed to the relevant evidence.  If you and/or GB want to proverbially dance around with your fingers stuck in your ears you are free to do so.


That is your assertion which is false in my opinion because you have offered nothing in the way of tangible proof nor evidence of any kind and have simply implied that evidence must be relevant through a second party. I mean really Mark?, you do not honestly think I would believe anything you say when it is presented in the same context as everyone else?. Again I understand the tone in which you express your opinions may impress others but I am very much unimpressed because I rely on content and context which you seem to be lacking at the moment.


So may assert anything you want or imply you have asserted nothing but the fact remains you have no tangible proof of anything. In any case I would have to assume that somehow you get off on these mind games you may think impress others however as I said I am very much unimpressed so this conversation is over so far as I am concerned because it is ridiculous.






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Re: 'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours
« Reply #286 on: August 15, 2015, 06:36:13 AM »
A variation of the Cavendish experiment shows gravity may be a pushing force instead of a pulling force.  However, I don't subscribe to the pico-graviton theory.  Regardless, pressure is a factor in all of this.

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Re: 'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours
« Reply #287 on: August 15, 2015, 06:46:04 AM »
Nobody can equate problems without weighing all the factors which lead to their solution.

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Re: 'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours
« Reply #287 on: August 15, 2015, 06:46:04 AM »
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Re: 'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours
« Reply #288 on: August 15, 2015, 08:17:50 AM »
@MarkE

So when you say this or that is a false clam what do you mean by this exactly if it is not an assertion that you believe the facts are false in some way?. I mean do you have tangible proof it is false or is this just some random guess on your part based on your own personal beliefs. I mean do you have tangible proof or not so much?.







That is your assertion which is false in my opinion because you have offered nothing in the way of tangible proof nor evidence of any kind and have simply implied that evidence must be relevant through a second party. I mean really Mark?, you do not honestly think I would believe anything you say when it is presented in the same context as everyone else?. Again I understand the tone in which you express your opinions may impress others but I am very much unimpressed because I rely on content and context which you seem to be lacking at the moment.


So may assert anything you want or imply you have asserted nothing but the fact remains you have no tangible proof of anything. In any case I would have to assume that somehow you get off on these mind games you may think impress others however as I said I am very much unimpressed so this conversation is over so far as I am concerned because it is ridiculous.






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So jamming your fingers in your ears and yelling "nah, nah, nah" it is to be.

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Re: 'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours
« Reply #289 on: August 15, 2015, 08:31:36 AM »
A variation of the Cavendish experiment shows gravity may be a pushing force instead of a pulling force.  However, I don't subscribe to the pico-graviton theory.  Regardless, pressure is a factor in all of this.

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If you are going to go off pushing autodynamics now, you will find that it has been falsified.

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Re: 'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours
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Re: 'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours
« Reply #290 on: August 15, 2015, 08:35:48 AM »
If you are going to go off pushing autodynamics now, you will find that it has been falsified.

Can you please provide a reference link to back up your assertion.

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Re: 'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours
« Reply #291 on: August 15, 2015, 08:36:46 AM »
Can you please provide a reference link to back up your assertion.

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Start with Noyes work.

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Re: 'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours
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Re: 'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours
« Reply #292 on: August 15, 2015, 08:42:48 AM »
Start with Noyes work.

In other words, you can't provide the reference link directly to back up your assertion.

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Re: 'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours
« Reply #293 on: August 15, 2015, 08:54:46 AM »
MarkE,

I referred specifically to the modified Cavendish experiment and never referred to the theory of autodynamics itself.  I also stated I didn't subscribe to the pico-graviton theory.  Please provide a reference link to back up your assertion that the modified Cavendish experiment itself has been falsified.

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Re: 'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours
« Reply #293 on: August 15, 2015, 08:54:46 AM »
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Re: 'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours
« Reply #294 on: August 15, 2015, 09:01:49 AM »
More smoke and mirrors from MarkE!

Smoke and mirrors:

01: Something/Someone that deceives or distorts the truth.
02: Something/Someone that distorts or blurs facts ,figures, etc., like a magic or conjuring work; artful deception; tricky inventiveness.

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Re: 'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours
« Reply #295 on: August 15, 2015, 09:02:47 AM »
Are you suffering reading comprehension problems?
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    If you are going to go off pushing autodynamics now, you will find that it has been falsified.


Can you please provide a reference link to back up your assertion.

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Re: 'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours
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Re: 'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours
« Reply #296 on: August 15, 2015, 09:09:12 AM »
Are you suffering reading comprehension problems?

It is you, who is suffering from poor reading comprehension, and not me.  I never pushed autodynamics as you falsely asserted.  Like I said, you blatantly attempted to distort or blur the facts by referring to autodynamics instead of referring to the modified Cavendish experiment itself.  More smoke and mirrors from you!

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Re: 'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours
« Reply #297 on: August 15, 2015, 09:47:38 AM »
George P. Dvorsky is a Canadian bioethicist, transhumanist, and futurist. He is a contributing editor at io9 and producer of the Sentient Developments blog and podcast."  So, this is the fellow that made the post where you copied that map?  OK, I can clearly see where we need to through out everything known in science and believe this guy......what credentials!

Look at the sources you are using here.  I mean...really?

The sources of the model, which provided the ultra-high resolution maps and videos of Earth's gravity field, was developed by scientists of Curtin University and Technische Universit√§t M√ľnchen. 

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Re: 'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours
« Reply #298 on: August 15, 2015, 08:21:16 PM »
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So jamming your fingers in your ears and yelling "nah, nah, nah" it is to be.


No, your appeal to emotion is a strawman argument.


What I meant was you are using the fallacy fallacy argument when you said GB's claim was false. You also routinely apply tu quoque to avoid your false assertions ie. the fallacy fallacy.




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If we want to understand the misleading logic behind many of the arguments made here I would suggest checking out this website....https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/. It is a very insightful website and I should thank Mark for leading me in this direction. I think it does give tangible insight into our thought process however it also shows how it can be manipulated. Which is the real reason I generally opt out of pointless conversations which lead nowhere. Round and round we go.


On a side note many may recognize this fallacy:
Proof by assertion, sometimes informally referred to as proof by repeated assertion, is an informal fallacy in which a proposition is repeatedly restated regardless of contradiction.[1] Sometimes, this may be repeated until challenges dry up, at which point it is asserted as fact due to its not being contradicted   (argumentum ad nauseam).



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Re: 'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours
« Reply #299 on: August 16, 2015, 01:42:20 AM »
@MarkE

No, your appeal to emotion is a strawman argument.

What I meant was you are using the fallacy fallacy argument when you said GB's claim was false. You also routinely apply tu quoque to avoid your false assertions ie. the fallacy fallacy.




@All
If we want to understand the misleading logic behind many of the arguments made here I would suggest checking out this website....https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/. It is a very insightful website and I should thank Mark for leading me in this direction. I think it does give tangible insight into our thought process however it also shows how it can be manipulated. Which is the real reason I generally opt out of pointless conversations which lead nowhere. Round and round we go.
It's a good web site.  You should pay attention to what it has to say.
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On a side note many may recognize this fallacy:
Proof by assertion, sometimes informally referred to as proof by repeated assertion, is an informal fallacy in which a proposition is repeatedly restated regardless of contradiction.[1] Sometimes, this may be repeated until challenges dry up, at which point it is asserted as fact due to its not being contradicted   (argumentum ad nauseam).



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