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Author Topic: 'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours  (Read 95141 times)

gravityblock

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Re: 'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours
« Reply #105 on: August 07, 2015, 03:57:17 PM »
Video on the Self synchronization of a system.  Like I said before MarkE, randomness is the ultimate order in the universe.

Analogy with vibration mechanics is apparent with the only modification that in rhythmodynamics wave sources have common movable, floating in wave medium foundation in the form of a standing wave which ensures the sources’ dynamic link through the wave medium itself. If this foundation (standing wave) shifts for some reason, the sources ‘mounted’ on it shift as well. This process may have a different description: if foundation, i.e. the standing wave linking the sources, cannot ensure synchronicity between the sources a driving force emerges shifting the foundation to such speed regime in which there won’t be any need to eliminate the phase displacement between the sources.
 
The same happens in the central gravitational field: the field imposes the phase displacement and thus breaks synchronicity of the system → foundation (standing wave) moves and ‘drags’ in its wake the sources → the trend to speed increase is due to phase shift increasing in time which is manifest until velocity is reached at which synchronicity of the system’s sources is possible. If the system is restrained from motion the standing wave passes efforts from a source to a source aimed at reaching synchronicity.
 
Synchronicity is possible either in the absence of phase displacement or in motion.  But the phase displacement is firmly secured by gravitational field which prevents nullification of the phase shift. As a result, the system is seeking synchronicity in motion.

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Re: 'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours
« Reply #106 on: August 07, 2015, 04:00:48 PM »
Miss Information is being joined by Miss Direction today.

Your reply isn't a scientific or mathematical rebuttal.  It is you who is doing the misinforming and misdirection.  Don't psychologically project what you're doing, off onto me.

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Re: 'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours
« Reply #107 on: August 07, 2015, 04:18:20 PM »



 Mentalblock?
     Come on you pair, 's a pity Gottfried and Isaac aren't still about
they'd have had it sorted!
          John.

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Re: 'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours
« Reply #108 on: August 07, 2015, 04:25:46 PM »
Your reply isn't a scientific or mathematical rebuttal.  It is you who is doing the misinforming and misdirection.  Don't psychologically project what you're doing, off onto me.

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So much baffle gab, so little time.

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Re: 'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours
« Reply #109 on: August 07, 2015, 04:41:34 PM »
So much baffle gab, so little time.

MarkE doesn't have time to post a scientific or mathematical rebuttal, but he has the time to make meaningless posts and to spam this thread, such as his latest reply. LOL

It is you who is producing the baffle gab without a scientific or mathematical rebuttal.  Another psychological projection.


@minnie, thanks for your wonderful contribution in helping marke spam this thread

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Re: 'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours
« Reply #110 on: August 07, 2015, 05:02:12 PM »
@Gravityblock
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The postulates of modern physics and theories based on
them do  not allow for absolute notions: energy, speed, time, frame of
reference. The  postulates of rhythmodynamics and wave geometry, on the
contrary, suggest  impossibility of creating a clear physical picture of the
world without the carrier of constructs in geometry and wave medium in
rhythmodynamics. The  advantage of rhythmodynamics’ approach is in its ability
to use both absolute  and relative notions. For example, the objects’ speed in
wave medium is  absolute, the speed between the objects is relative.

I like this quote from the link you posted. I have found this to be true and there is little progress to be made in examining local superficial events if one is unable to see the big picture. It should come as no surprise that the true nature of the Primary Fields and Inertia are completely unknown to science. My premise is simple... if it don't work then don't do it thus I reject the popular understanding of how things are supposed to work.
 
Concerning the boat and rocks experiment, I think it's important to see the contradiction in terms. In science they try to make absolute statements such as if I throw the two rocks in opposite directions there in no net motion in either direction. The contradiction here is that it is implied that there can never be any net motion under any circumstances however this is obviously not true. As such it is seldom if ever a matter of facts but moreso the context in which they apply or do not apply. In effect people tend to distort the facts to suit their own beliefs ultimately leading to the religion of modern science. It is no wonder 47% of scientists have falsified data or know someone who has in order to substantiate their beliefs. In essense it's a quagmire and is seldom if ever as it seems on the surface.
 
The fact is we may have one truth in one context which is completely false in another as we see with the boat and rocks experiment. So we must ask what is the truth when the truth is variable dependent on the context in which it applies. As such my tool for success is not a textbook but thought experiments to determine my own truth for myself.
It's a whacky world.

 
AC

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Re: 'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours
« Reply #111 on: August 07, 2015, 08:16:52 PM »
MarkE doesn't have time to post a scientific or mathematical rebuttal, but he has the time to make meaningless posts and to spam this thread, such as his latest reply. LOL

It is you who is producing the baffle gab without a scientific or mathematical rebuttal.  Another psychological projection.


@minnie, thanks for your wonderful contribution in helping marke spam this thread

Gravock
LOL

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Re: 'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours
« Reply #112 on: August 07, 2015, 08:53:31 PM »



   Gravityblock it's like a children's pantomime when you're involved.
   Oh yes it is, oh  no it isn't!
   At least in the end I managed to see why pi was 4.
     John.

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Re: 'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours
« Reply #113 on: August 07, 2015, 11:15:29 PM »
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice
"You must be", said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here"
Alices Adentures in OUland
 
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Re: 'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours
« Reply #114 on: August 08, 2015, 02:12:48 AM »
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice
"You must be", said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here"
Alices Adentures in OUland
 
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I thought it was the hatter that was mad?  I'll have to read that book again.

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Re: 'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours
« Reply #115 on: August 08, 2015, 05:48:22 AM »
Hey Bill


It is strange that anyone here would argue one or the other who occupies these forums might be mad when 99% of the world out there would consider all of us mad for being here and debating such things. Thus we may come to understand we here are not them and we are more like each other than any one of them out there whether we want to admit it or not. I find that comforting in a strange way because mad is relative and make no mistake they out there are mad.


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Re: 'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours
« Reply #116 on: August 08, 2015, 08:43:08 AM »
Hey Bill


It is strange that anyone here would argue one or the other who occupies these forums might be mad when 99% of the world out there would consider all of us mad for being here and debating such things. Thus we may come to understand we here are not them and we are more like each other than any one of them out there whether we want to admit it or not. I find that comforting in a strange way because mad is relative and make no mistake they out there are mad.


AC

this place appears to have its healthy share of sick people, yes you are correct at noticing that.
there are some good examples worth the thoughts though. so its not a total loss when it comes to learning something useful
because of the knowledgable people and other device concept real time developers offering their time for other future potentials.

inspiring noticing the level of effort they build their projects with.
and even just some of the yet to be tried concepts.


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Re: 'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours
« Reply #117 on: August 08, 2015, 10:14:35 AM »
Hey Bill


It is strange that anyone here would argue one or the other who occupies these forums might be mad when 99% of the world out there would consider all of us mad for being here and debating such things. Thus we may come to understand we here are not them and we are more like each other than any one of them out there whether we want to admit it or not. I find that comforting in a strange way because mad is relative and make no mistake they out there are mad.


AC

Well, of course I agree.  The guy that decides if I am mad or not might indeed be madder than me.  So, who gets to decide?

That is the question.

I have no problem with our current debate. One of us is wrong, or, both of us are wrong, or, both of us are right.  I, of course, think I am correct but, that does not mean that I am.

I had a thought today at work...here goes.

OK, so we have atoms making up all matter and, the higher the density, the more atoms there are.  So, what if, all of those spinning electrons in orbit exhibit a type of gyroscopic precession (or resistance to movement) but, since they are all scattered about and not aligned, the resistance would not be organized to resist in a left or right movement.  What I mean is, if matter has all of these spinning particles, maybe that is where the resistance to movement comes from?  So, in deep space, in your example, they can push off from each other because of the rotation of their fundamental particles that make up the matter in the first place?  This really might not be too far off if you think about it.  We know that gyroscopes work in space so, on an atomic scale, this might be what is really happening?

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Re: 'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours
« Reply #118 on: August 08, 2015, 05:11:44 PM »
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OK, so we have atoms making up all matter and, the higher the density, the more atoms there are.  So, what if, all of those spinning electrons in orbit exhibit a type of gyroscopic precession (or resistance to movement) but, since they are all scattered about and not aligned, the resistance would not be organized to resist in a left or right movement.  What I mean is, if matter has all of these spinning particles, maybe that is where the resistance to movement comes from?  So, in deep space, in your example, they can push off from each other because of the rotation of their fundamental particles that make up the matter in the first place?  This really might not be too far off if you think about it.  We know that gyroscopes work in space so, on an atomic scale, this might be what is really happening?




What you are suggesting sounds similar to my thoughts and Inertia implies that the parts of a body have the ability to act on themselves. I find it strange that more have not questioned the true nature of these effects. As well if a body has the ability to apply a force to "resist" an acceleration in itself then the alter ego is that it may be able to apply a force to "assist" an acceleration in itself. Resist and assist are simply the same forces acting in a different direction.




In any case I cannot see the logic in someone saying... no body may act upon itself even if we know Inertia does.




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Re: 'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours
« Reply #119 on: August 09, 2015, 05:20:45 PM »
I thought I would share a lesson in perspective I learned early on which goes a long way towards understanding.


First look around the room at any objects that may be present and make a mental note of how you perceive them. The popular view is that it is simply an object however we know they are an aggregate of smaller particles and fields in incredible motion. As well when we see an object we perceive that it is tangible when there is little tangibility to it because it is mostly empty space at the particle-field level.



Here is the perceptual problem most of us inherently have. Imagine you have a white piece of paper and we will call all that white stuff empty space. Now draw a big black circle in the middle of the page and we will call this tangible matter... do you see the problem?. We see the big black circle as tangible matter and we see it is surrounded by empty space however what we seldom understand is the relationship between them.



For instance the area of black versus white on our page has changed from when it was empty or all white. The area occupied by our black circle is no longer white therefore we must acknowledge the fact that more black-matter means less white-empty space. As such any properties we relate to any volume of space may be due to the fact more matter is present in that volume or less empty space is present in that volume and vice versa. We must ask is the change in properties due to more matter being present as we assumed or is it due to the fact less empty space is present because it is occupied by matter?. Fundamentally more black must mean less white and by drawing our black circle on our white page the page has changed in not one way but in two ways... there is more black "and" less white.

There are always two sides to every coin.




Now we have another problem, in order for energy to move from point A to point B then it must occupy every point in between. Thus if energy is truly conserved then the energy radiated from every star in the known universe must be present in our supposed "empty space" to a greater or lesser degree at every point. So we must ask is our white paper representing empty space truly"empty"? and if black-matter must displace white-space then energy must have been displaced in the process.




AC





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