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Author Topic: 'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours  (Read 52572 times)

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Re: 'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours
« Reply #120 on: August 09, 2015, 08:02:58 PM »
Video on the Self synchronization of a system.  Like I said before MarkE, randomness is the ultimate order in the universe.

Analogy with vibration mechanics is apparent with the only modification that in rhythmodynamics wave sources have common movable, 1floating in wave medium foundation in the form of a standing wave which ensures the sources’ dynamic link through the wave medium itself. 2If this foundation (standing wave) shifts for some reason, the sources ‘mounted’ on it shift as well. This process may have a different description: 3if foundation, i.e. the standing wave linking the sources, cannot ensure synchronicity between the sources a driving force emerges shifting the foundation to such speed regime in which there won’t be any need to eliminate the phase displacement between the sources.
 
The same happens in the central gravitational field: the field imposes the phase displacement and thus breaks synchronicity of the system → foundation (standing wave) moves and ‘drags’ in its wake the sources → the trend to speed increase is due to phase shift increasing in time which is manifest until velocity is reached at which synchronicity of the system’s sources is possible. If the system is restrained from motion the standing wave passes efforts from a source to a source aimed at reaching synchronicity.
 
Synchronicity is possible either in the absence of phase displacement or in motion.  But the phase displacement is firmly secured by gravitational field which prevents nullification of the phase shift. As a result, the system is seeking synchronicity in motion.

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I can't believe there has been no comments on the self synchronization of a system.  This is the key to a reaction-less drive, such as the drive system a trout uses to effortlessly move upstream at great speeds.  I placed numbers in bold and superscript in the above quote for easy reference, and to correlate it with the trout's reaction-less drive system.

1A trout positioning itself in a standing wave (between the vortices) ensures the trouts dynamic link through the water itself.  2If the standing wave shifts for some reason, the trout 'mounted' on it will shift as well.  3If the standing wave linking the trout can't ensure synchronicity with the vortices, a driving force emerges shifting the standing wave to such speed regime in which there won't be any need to eliminate the phase displacement between the sources.  A trout will open it's gills and turn it's body to induce a phase displacement to break the synchronicity of the system, and the standing wave will move and drag the trout upstream in its wake with a speed increase until the velocity is reached at which synchronicity of the system is possible.  In summary, a trout is self-propelled upstream within a standing wave between the vortices.

References:  The art of nature and trout swimming in a vortex street.

“Fish don’t’ swim, they’re swum and birds don’t fly, they’re flown”, Viktor Schauberger.

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Re: 'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours
« Reply #121 on: August 09, 2015, 08:13:18 PM »
Apparently, lesser intelligent species has figured out how to use self-syhrconization with it's environment in order to self-propel itself by using a reaction-less drive system (Grebennikov Solved).

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Re: 'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours
« Reply #122 on: August 09, 2015, 08:27:14 PM »
   Gravityblock it's like a children's pantomime when you're involved.
   Oh yes it is, oh  no it isn't!

minnie,

Yes, you're right.  Even a child can grasp this stuff, but can you?  Since most of the audience, such as yourself is still drinking milk as babes do......then it must be presented in such a way.  Let me know when you're eating meat, so we can move beyond the elementary truths of this world and onto more interesting and fulfilling stuff. 

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Re: 'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours
« Reply #123 on: August 09, 2015, 08:40:34 PM »
@Gravityblock


I have read most of Victor Schauberger's work and the effect is quite easy to understand. We could ask the question... is a vortex of water similar to still water or a unidirectional flow?. No it is not because a vortex becomes distinct in it's own right. It may move with a flow however it has it's own distinct motion within the flow.


In some respects we could say it becomes more tangible somewhere in between a fluid and a solid material. Thus we may "create" an individualized flow within another flow and push off of this just as we would a tangible object like a rock or wall. Now if we create a circular flow within a unidirectional flow then this circular flow may have twice the the velocity at it's perimeter in which case on one side we may lose ground and on the other we may gain.


The real issue is the same-same argument many like to offer however we should recognize the fact that many things may become distinct, individualized and separate from other things... much like ourselves. We are not them any more than they are us...obviously.



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Re: 'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours
« Reply #124 on: August 09, 2015, 10:11:55 PM »

The real issue is the same-same argument many like to offer however we should recognize the fact that many things may become distinct, individualized and separate from other things... much like ourselves. We are not them any more than they are us...obviously.


Are we individualized and separate beings while being in sync and united with one another through the natural vibrations of the grid (this is a must see video), or our we losing our individualism and becoming legion while being out of sync and divided against one another through the loss of the grid's natural vibrations.  TPTB are diabolical motherfuckers, but they're smart.  The metronomes, representing an individual person will sync up through it's natural vibrations and become united (in phase) with other metronomes through the vibrations of the whole system.  However, the metronomes will not sync up with one another and will be divided (out of phase) with the other metronomes through the loss of the grid's natural vibrations.  TPTB have manipulated the whole system in away where the individual's natural vibrations have been dampened and cut off from being part of the grid, which causes division and strife in the world.  A house that is divided can't stand.  Individualism will be totally lost through the reprogramming of the grid with the idea of "betterment and benefit for the whole".  This is happening now!  The Illuminati talks about being cut off from the grid in their training video.  This will be a total enslavement of mankind, and a person will lose their self-awareness and individual consciousnesses.

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Re: 'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours
« Reply #125 on: August 09, 2015, 10:32:40 PM »
Are we individualized and separate beings while being in sync and united with one another through the natural vibrations of the grid (this is a must see video), or our we losing our individualism and becoming legion while being out of sync and divided against one another through the loss of the grid's natural vibrations.  TPTB are diabolical motherfuckers, but they're smart.  The metronomes, representing an individual person will sync up through it's natural vibrations and become united (in phase) with other metronomes through the vibrations of the whole system.  However, the metronomes will not sync up with one another and will be divided (out of phase) with the other metronomes through the loss of the grid's natural vibrations.  TPTB have manipulated the whole system in away where the individual's natural vibrations have been dampened and cut off from being part of the grid, which causes division and strife in the world.  A house that is divided can't stand.  Individualism will be totally lost through the reprogramming of the grid with the idea of "betterment for the whole".  This is happening now!  The Illuminati talks about being cut off from the grid in their training video.  This will be a total enslavement of mankind, and a person will lose their self-awareness and individual consciousnesses.

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I threw you some meat.  Let's see if you can eat and digest it properly.

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Re: 'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours
« Reply #126 on: August 09, 2015, 11:46:56 PM »



 I'm just a sad old man, I do love this forum though!
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Re: 'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours
« Reply #127 on: August 09, 2015, 11:53:24 PM »
More evidence in why people aren't in sync with one another and becoming divided.

The Cosmic 432 & The Musical Conspiracy - Part 1

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Re: 'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours
« Reply #128 on: August 10, 2015, 02:05:36 AM »
Because they were tone deaf back then?

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Re: 'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours
« Reply #129 on: August 10, 2015, 02:31:49 AM »
Throwing two rocks of the same mass in opposite directions at the same time with the same force will result in no movement.

Throwing one rock at a time will cause either movement or it will reduce movement depending on which way the rocks are thrown.

There was never any danger of the case being otherwise. Anyone with half a brain can see why that is so. The finer details of how much is neither here nor there unless calculations are done like MarkE did. Thanks Mark.

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Re: 'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours
« Reply #130 on: August 10, 2015, 03:27:27 AM »
Throwing two rocks of the same mass in opposite directions at the same time with the same force will result in no movement.

Throwing one rock at a time will cause either movement or it will reduce movement depending on which way the rocks are thrown.

There was never any danger of the case being otherwise. Anyone with half a brain can see why that is so. The finer details of how much is neither here nor there unless calculations are done like MarkE did. Thanks Mark.

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Anyone with half a brain can see that MarkE didn't do the calculations according to the process described in the hypothetical.  Yeah, thank MarkE for giving us a false visualization of the hypothetical process.  What a way to be, lol.  I did say MarkE was going to draw the wrong visualization before he even posted any calculations.  How did I know that?  Because it's easy enough to work out the finer details in your head without even resorting to any kind of math.

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« Reply #131 on: August 10, 2015, 03:47:47 AM »
Personally, I chalk Shawyer's ideas up to something that belongs in the Museum of Unworkable Devices.  I think his idea is akin to propelling something by placing a laser in a cavity with a highly reflective mirror at one end and a highly absorbant material at the other.  Or to put it another way:  a fan in a sailboat blowing on the sailboat's sail.

Farmhand,

MarkE put both the EmDrive and the sailboat blowing on it's own sail into the Museum of Unworkable Devices, even though empirical evidence says otherwise.  Yeah, let's thank MarkE again for another false-hood.

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« Reply #132 on: August 10, 2015, 03:54:34 AM »

CuriousChris I go with what the weight of evidence tells us.  At this point in time it tells us that there isn't any known way to propel something without moving something else recognizable the opposite way.  That gives me a very low expectation that a reactionless drive can be devised.  Should someone come up with strong contrary evidence, then the collective we would be remiss to ignore such evidence.

The above is a quote by MarkE found on another thread which is related to this topic.  According to MarkE, the weight of the evidence at this time says there isn't any known way to propel something without moving something else recognizable the opposite way, and he has a very low expectation of a reaction-less drive being devised.  I'm sorry Farmhand for raining on MarkE's parade, but the weight of emperical evidence is substantial as we find in nature, from fish to birds, and from insects to micro-organisms.  Yeah, let's thank MarkE again for another false assertion and misdirection.

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Re: 'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours
« Reply #133 on: August 10, 2015, 04:34:30 AM »
@Gravityblock
I like this quote from the link you posted. I have found this to be true and there is little progress to be made in examining local superficial events if one is unable to see the big picture. It should come as no surprise that the true nature of the Primary Fields and Inertia are completely unknown to science. My premise is simple... if it don't work then don't do it thus I reject the popular understanding of how things are supposed to work.
 
Concerning the boat and rocks experiment, I think it's important to see the contradiction in terms. In science they try to make absolute statements such as if I throw the two rocks in opposite directions there in no net motion in either direction. The contradiction here is that it is implied that there can never be any net motion under any circumstances however this is obviously not true. As such it is seldom if ever a matter of facts but moreso the context in which they apply or do not apply. In effect people tend to distort the facts to suit their own beliefs ultimately leading to the religion of modern science. It is no wonder 47% of scientists have falsified data or know someone who has in order to substantiate their beliefs. In essense it's a quagmire and is seldom if ever as it seems on the surface.
 
The fact is we may have one truth in one context which is completely false in another as we see with the boat and rocks experiment. So we must ask what is the truth when the truth is variable dependent on the context in which it applies. As such my tool for success is not a textbook but thought experiments to determine my own truth for myself.
It's a whacky world.

 
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It's good to see someone else who gets it!

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Re: 'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours
« Reply #134 on: August 10, 2015, 04:58:58 AM »
Because they were tone deaf back then?

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No, because they were more intelligent than those of today who think "you have to speed up to slow down, and slow down to speed up".  In other words, they were in tune with nature and reality, unlike those of today.

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