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Offline gotoluc

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Re: TinMan Generator Research Moderated Topic
« Reply #255 on: July 29, 2015, 11:49:16 PM »
Does anyone know who this Mark Belanger is.
or where he lives.

He is new to me.

Norman



My guess is, he is french Canadian like myself. I think the spelling is Marc and not Mark. Both Marc and Belanger are french names that are very comment in Canada.

He claims he has a bucking coil thing in a box that does magic.

Luc

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« Reply #255 on: July 29, 2015, 11:49:16 PM »

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« Reply #256 on: July 29, 2015, 11:52:55 PM »
http://youtu.be/wt9HRXtSB3k Just a curiosity I saw this evening

Very interesting Jim 8)

Thanks for sharing

Luc

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Re: TinMan Generator Research Moderated Topic
« Reply #257 on: July 30, 2015, 12:37:42 PM »
finally got the dyson working on around 5watts whilst lighting the lamp quite brightly. Unloaded it was about 12 watts. Didn't manage to reattach the rotor wires to the alternate segments. Buggered one rotor up which I will liberate for a chop phase converter.

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« Reply #257 on: July 30, 2015, 12:37:42 PM »
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Re: TinMan Generator Research Moderated Topic
« Reply #258 on: July 30, 2015, 06:39:56 PM »
so what is happening to the motionless electrical generator ideas...can i post my brilliant
invention here..

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« Reply #259 on: July 30, 2015, 07:38:35 PM »
hi we must be all very busy rewinding and winding and rewinding. first it is great but noisy,
what i have learnt from this is for a meg to work, one needs motion of electromagnetic
field through the meg core..not just pulsing magnetic field..

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« Reply #259 on: July 30, 2015, 07:38:35 PM »
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Re: TinMan Generator Research Moderated Topic
« Reply #260 on: July 30, 2015, 09:08:08 PM »
hi we must be all very busy rewinding and winding and rewinding. first it is great but noisy,
what i have learnt from this is for a meg to work, one needs motion of electromagnetic
field through the meg core..not just pulsing magnetic field..

The MEG is on topic. Let's see it!

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« Reply #261 on: July 31, 2015, 05:19:34 AM »
so what is happening to the motionless electrical generator ideas...can i post my brilliant
invention here..

Yes, you can post your brilliant invention here.

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« Reply #261 on: July 31, 2015, 05:19:34 AM »
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« Reply #262 on: July 31, 2015, 01:53:26 PM »
This the dyson working on the modified rotor coils at around 5 watts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFyzn9CoCDY THe lamp is rated to 100ma and I got it up to around 80ma

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« Reply #263 on: July 31, 2015, 02:27:44 PM »
So here is my brilliant invention.. i receive with joy and release it with joy..

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« Reply #263 on: July 31, 2015, 02:27:44 PM »
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« Reply #264 on: July 31, 2015, 05:16:35 PM »
In the video below,i am testing the split phase converter theory in a solid state version.
This will be much the same as my solid state build later on,but this setup was used to test the mechanical version of the split phase converter. As it turns out,it actually works better than i thought it would.

I have also wound the drive coils onto the rotor for the mechanical version,and i will have a video of that up shortly.

But for now-here is the solid state test.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oBl-oBTmXA

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« Reply #265 on: July 31, 2015, 06:34:12 PM »
In the video below,i am testing the split phase converter theory in a solid state version.
This will be much the same as my solid state build later on,but this setup was used to test the mechanical version of the split phase converter. As it turns out,it actually works better than i thought it would.

I have also wound the drive coils onto the rotor for the mechanical version,and i will have a video of that up shortly.

But for now-here is the solid state test.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oBl-oBTmXA
Got my gear today I hope run this experiment tomorrow

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« Reply #265 on: July 31, 2015, 06:34:12 PM »
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« Reply #266 on: July 31, 2015, 08:10:54 PM »
First run of the rewound rotor without the generating coils.
Im quite surprised as to how much torque the motor has with such few windings,and small wire.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ue8wR-whBmk

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Re: TinMan Generator Research Moderated Topic
« Reply #267 on: August 01, 2015, 02:44:10 AM »
First run of the rewound rotor without the generating coils.
Im quite surprised as to how much torque the motor has with such few windings,and small wire.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ue8wR-whBmk
I wonder how much that innovation alone would save the electric motor industry.

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« Reply #268 on: August 01, 2015, 01:56:37 PM »
First run of the rewound rotor without the generating coils.
Im quite surprised as to how much torque the motor has with such few windings,and small wire.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ue8wR-whBmk

Tinman, you have a lot of patience and skill to be able to wind those armatures, and keep track of the winding patterns. I wonder if there isn't an easy way to depict the winding pattern by numbering all the armature segments (wire slots) then  providing the wind data and commutator connections in some kind of tabular form, so we can duplicate the pattern.

Also it would be interesting to devise a set of test curves of torque, speed and power use on the same graph to compare a modified vs unmodified motor in order to depict the shifts of each that we guess would occur. (see example DC motor graph). Of course if the intention is to produce something different than a motor, a graph of motor characteristics would not apply. So I ask is there an intention for the rewinding other than to produce a more efficient motor?

I see your scope shots of the modified (every other) commutator connections provides time for the armature field (hence induced field) to collapse with a 50% duty cycle till the next segment "fires".

The scope shot of the unmodified seems to depict a sawtooth current pattern with very little collapse time except for brush noise.

Good work as usual, be interesting to see what comes next.

Kind Regards
Vortex1

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« Reply #269 on: August 04, 2015, 12:10:35 AM »
@ Luc

I was wondering if you could clear something up for us here.
Some time back on energetic forum,i remember i big hoohaa over the water spark plug/plasma ignition system. I believed you patented the setup,and Arron and the crew were none to happy about that.
Is this the way it went down,or are there other things to it we didnt get told?

Cheers
Brad

Okay, I'll do my best to explain the basic events without going into too many details but I'll cover enough so those who don't know about the water spark circuit can understand.

On June 25 2008 while experimenting on plasma spark I happen to combine a high voltage of an ignition coil with a low voltage of a capacitor.
The combination of these two with a high voltage blocking diode on the capacitor created a very enhanced spark which has an even greater effect if sprayed with a fine mist of water. The effect is more light and a very load cracking sound which I thought could be a dissociation of hydrogen oxygen of the water mist.
At about 6pm EST on June 26th I started a topic on the Overunity forum and titled it: " URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE"
http://overunity.com/5024/urgent-water-as-fuel-discovery-for-everyone-to-share/#.VbqZBEb_rIU

Please note the Overunity topic is dated June 27th but notice the time is 12:01am which is Berlin time, so 6 hours ahead of my Eastern Standard Time. So the information was publicly shared at 6pm EST on June 26th
Here is the 1st YouTube demo video which is correctly dated June 26th.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R2fNukDCPs

It's important to know the date the information was first publicly shared and my intent.
On my first video above please listen to my message between 4:23 and 4:52 and ignore the theories I shared.
Message: what I'm doing is, I want everyone to start thinking about this (circuit) and trying to get this effect and Improve it. I'm not the best in electronics, it's not really my field. So I'm posting this so people can start working on it and get this working. So let me show you what I've got so far.

One week later on July 4th 2008, Arron of the Energetic Forum started a topic and titled it "Water Sparkplug"
http://www.energeticforum.com/water-fuel/2242-water-sparkplug.html

On July 13th 2008 after participants suggestions of better diodes and me also using a single pole double throw relay to charge and discharge the capacitor, the effect was much better then the first video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxnRQ7fkWtE

On September 9th  2008: Arron posted a video with Peter Lindemann demonstrating the effect of the spark which was titled: "Peter Lindemann's Replication of Arron's circuit based on Luc's (gotoluc) method"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOhNtRhJ5Rw
Notice some recognition towards me in the video and title. Remember this when you read the below.

Around the beginning of April 2009, I was contacted by two individuals, one called Arvind and the other Kathik from a business they started in the US called Aquapulser.
They liked the high voltage diode blocked high current capacitor spark effect so much they decided to start a business and manufactured a ready made plug and play device so consumers could purchase. I was very happy they had done this as that would help to get it out faster and wished them the very best.
They told me they had been following the topic on each forum and from their research considered me to be the originator of the high voltage diode blocked high current capacitor spark effect.
They offered me a free sample of their device in recognition. They told me they couldn't afford to give more out because of their large start up investment which I understood.
Later on they contacted me again and suggested to patent the circuit since a bigger corporation could possibly patent it (even though it was open source) and could then prevent Aquapulser to manufacturing it.
They had a valid point as open source information is not as protected as some may think. So we had a written agreement that they can hold the patent only to prevent big corporations to use it and Aquapulser could not interfere with the open source community. Aquapulser paid for all patent and attorney costs.
Once again I wished them success and didn't ask for any profit as I admired their efforts and wanted them to have the ability to re-gain the huge expenses of the patent costs.
The patent included my name as one of the inventors along with Arvind and Karthik. This way they couldn't sell it without my consent because of the written joint ownership agreement. So even though I didn't wish to profit on Aquapulser sales, I was part owner of the patent document which secure it.
This ended up being good, because in early 2011 the two owners of Aquapulser were in disagreement. Karthik didn't agree with Arvind's new change of direction. He though Arvind was considering the sale the patent for profit and felt (rightfully so) this was not what we had agreed on.
Karthik contacted me and suggested we combine our ownership of the patent document to gain control of it and then together we could agree to dissolve it.
I had to trust Karthik's plan and be sure he would follow through once the first step was done.  Karthik followed through as he promised. He also took care of all the legal details and the original patent was dissolved. However, "for some reason", it coincided Aaron found out there was a patent filed and on the Energetic Forum he started to publicly accuse me of steeling his circuit and so on.
I mostly ignored him as I knew my intent was good and was of no profit or benefit to me.
Then Aaron joined forces with Arvind and demanded a new patent be created and that there was no reason to have my name as inventor because it had nothing to do with my circuit.
However, the patent attorney did not see it the way Aaron did as I'm sure he had done some research on the first patent (before putting it together) which is now dissolved.
The patent attorney tried to reason with Aaron. However, after a few weeks and so many harassing emails from Aaron the patent attorney quit and said he would not ever get involved again unless there was a prior agreement reached.

What I didn't mention is, during the months this was going on, I was overseas in South Africa for 6 months at my travel expense and making no money helping a mission feeding and clothing the poor. So it was quite a challenge to get internet access and deal with all this fiasco.
Anyways, back to the story, Karthik said he would support me on what ever decision I made.
I was about to give it away because I just don't care for this kind of stuff but something in me said don't let this guy have his way and hold firm as inventor. In the end we all agreed to refile the patent with Aaron's name on the inventors list. This was the best I could do then to just walk away and let Arvind and Aaron file for a new Patent.

Last time Karthik and I were contacted by Arvind, he wanted us to pay for our share of the new patent. We both replied we didn't have any funds, so I don't know and don't need to know what the status is.

You be the judge of who's name should be on the patent!
Aaron's argument was the circuit the Aquapulser Team used in the patent was closer to the circuit he shared then mine. This is true as my circuit was basic and as I mentioned my electronic skills was minimal and why I did my switching by hand on the first video and 2 weeks later I used a relay. However, both circuits are based on the same effect and I think this is what the Aquapulser team had originally considered prior to the patent.

One way or the other I can tell you that profit or recognition are of no interest to me. I have never profited one cent from anything I've shared or ask for recognition and I challenge anyone to prove me wrong.
It's always been zero in and $1,000. out of my pocket to pay for supplies and equipment.
Also, look at any of my video's, none of them have advertising.
I have over 950,000 combined views and 2,500 subscribers. Would this suggest I'm in it to make profit?
So why don't I want profit?... because I believe profit, gain and control is what causes poverty and prevents inventions to come out that would be for the good of all.
So my thoughts and way of life is, if I don't believe in it, why should I participate in it!

For you profit oriented people. You may want to reflect on how those actions will help others. As taking more for yourself then others have is contrary to the flow of nature or the universe.
If that doesn't make you think then, tell me which person was able to bring something from this world when their end comes?
Better chances for those who have helped others will be seeding for the next then ones money piled in the bank.

Luc

PS, looks like Arvind has continued the business and I still wish him success.
Aquapulser web site: http://www.aquapulser.com/performance_ignition/
Aquapulser Videos: https://www.youtube.com/user/ecoignition/videos

 

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