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Author Topic: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor  (Read 132656 times)

dom444

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #30 on: November 24, 2016, 10:37:36 PM »
it is correct except its not every second revolution, turning clockwise at the 47 sec mark it attracts the rotor plates in turn ( there are 2 plates), as they approach the magnet it then releases them when the blocks are in place at the end of there travel, if not neutralized the magnet would grab the turning plate as it trying to leave and hold it.

otherwise you are correct.


I am using VLC free media player if you repeatedly press the playback slow tab you can slow it down to as slow as you like then you can see what is going on as the machine moves to fast to work out otherwise

dom444

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #31 on: November 24, 2016, 11:04:50 PM »
stages at 47 sec mark

dom444

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #32 on: November 24, 2016, 11:23:14 PM »
I suggest we make this an open source project as this is the one magnetic motor where you have a working demonstrable model that was built, my preliminary experiments show the principles are sound
and i am working on a model now, but any help would be appreciated as i said there is research and development involved, as there are variables  and may take a few tries to get it to operate
properly. 

If anyone does the experiments please share results so we can move forward, if anyone has experience with magnetic modeling it would be good to see the magnetic pattern with the influence of steel blocks around a magnet both shielded and unshielded,

thanks Domenic

Kator01

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #33 on: November 25, 2016, 02:35:34 AM »
Domenic,

you are right I used the ( -) key while watching the vid with the vlc-player: there are two accelleration events.

One remark:

the blocks are back in neutralizing-position already in stage three ( image 3 )

Mike

dom444

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #34 on: November 25, 2016, 02:45:57 AM »
yes you are right was a split second before they where retreating back didn't quit capture it, it moves very fast.

dom444

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #35 on: November 25, 2016, 10:57:11 PM »
Experiment 1 a short clip to show how the magnet attracts a strip of metal on a wheel to turn it to the sticking point you can clearly see how it bounces back from the attraction at the end of travel.

this is where the magnetic neutralizing blocks would release it.

dom444

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #36 on: November 26, 2016, 01:28:46 AM »
I was playing around with magnetic modeling software this is what i have  I am not sure if i did it right first time i have used it

dom444

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #37 on: November 26, 2016, 01:37:09 AM »
this is it modeled with silicon steel permeability of 10000 the higher the permeability the more it absorbs the magnetic field. the best thing to use is pure iron permeability of 15000.

dom444

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #38 on: November 26, 2016, 02:59:02 AM »
with iron and larger blocks 15000 permeability.

dom444

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #39 on: November 26, 2016, 03:17:06 AM »
this is a small clip with 2 steel pieces ether side of magnet no more lock when turning just very small amount of  attraction

dom444

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #40 on: November 26, 2016, 04:35:52 AM »
moved the blocks forward a bit more seams to be the way to go the  field becomes very week, centering the blocks with the magnet in the middle draws the field into an hour glass shape as i had noted earlyer in the posts the fact he has the blocks a bit forward is important.

dom444

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #41 on: November 26, 2016, 05:50:38 AM »
with rotor plate  in place and blocks in place then retracted back. wow i was not expecting this I think there is little doubt that this can work this modeling if correct tells the whole story.

this is a magnetic switch that lends itself to many other designs of permanent magnet self running motors I wonder how many people actually know what there looking at here?

dom444

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #42 on: November 26, 2016, 06:50:13 AM »
Do you want more power ;)  just playing around. but seriously I was wondering why Friedrich didn't just activate both sides of the motor at the same time and double the power insted it looks like he
used the other side as a reversing system for the motor?

dom444

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #43 on: November 26, 2016, 07:41:01 AM »
it just gets better this is using 2 magnets flipping one south and the other north.

dom444

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #44 on: November 26, 2016, 07:51:52 AM »
2 magnets nulled, I bet Mr Luling wished he had this software by using 2 magnets flipped you more than double the power.