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Author Topic: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor  (Read 41904 times)

Offline sm0ky2

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #60 on: January 04, 2018, 12:45:50 PM »
So this dude has found a way to turn off the permanent magnet at the sticky point he says. Great. Does he also reveal hiw he does that?


If not, honestly, then this is just another guess n speculate thing. And these things never work.


Such a prefered myth consumption loop is really an interesting behaviour pattern. I wonder why people don't concentrate on open source concepts.


Perhaps you have never heard of Howard Robert Johnson?


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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #61 on: February 28, 2018, 04:06:44 PM »
hello,
i read for 2 years in this forum now, just signed up only because this great approach to lünings magnet motor.
i think it doesnt work like this because the iron blocks, once in line with the magnet, will stick very strong to the magnet in the middle.
yes, there is a spring to pull it back, but i wouldnt underrate the force the iron sticks to the magnet.

you can disable or at least weaken a permanent magnet by attaching a coil around it. or better: the square shaped coil is attached between the iron blocks and move with them over the magnet.
i think if the coil is fixed on the magnet it doesnt make a difference because then the coil holding the ironblocks in place...
this coil has to be energized only for a very short pulse to set the iron blocks free again, so the spring can easily pull the iron blocks back.

thats the only thing why the motor shouldnt work properly. and i think thats the reason why there are some wires on the motor in the orinigal video.

is this too easy? ^^

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #62 on: April 12, 2018, 11:57:34 AM »
RSTERGAR  you are the best builder i have ever seen in this field !   But we are in modern times now with hightecher materials:

"Can we first keep it simple ??  This is how a magnet motor should work:
Make magnets on rotor. Say two or four.
Now get a stator magnet in the vincinity of the rotor magnet.
The rotor will now turn towards the stator. Easy. But now the rotor will stop at that point so,
the stator magnet should isolated so the rotor can run in its own momentum. Easy.
But a trick, what if we use a high efficiënt elektromagnet as the stator magnet?
We don't have to shield anymore and can use neodymium magnets !
"But a strong elektromagnet costs energy" say the dummies. Not anymore. There is an
elektromagnet that can hold a person with two AA BATTERIES ! They are on sale.
Just make those switchable and the engine is nearly ready. Smile and start building.
Then attach a generator to it."

Do these people know where these 2 AA batteries magnets that can hold a person, are sold ?
If you can't do that easy task you will never reach anything without the help of others.

This is called very dependant on others. Like a kid. 
« Last Edit: April 12, 2018, 02:33:14 PM by Eniac5state »

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #62 on: April 12, 2018, 11:57:34 AM »
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Offline norman6538

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #63 on: April 12, 2018, 02:32:15 PM »
Where is this
"elektromagnet that can hold a person with two AA BATTERIES"?
Norman

RSTERGAR  you are the best builder i have ever seen in this field !   But we are in modern times now with hightecher materials:

"Can we first keep it simple ??  This is how a magnet motor should work:
Make magnets on rotor. Say two or four.
Now get a stator magnet in the vincinity of the rotor magnet.
The rotor will now turn towards the stator. Easy. But now the rotor will stop at that point so,
the stator magnet should isolated so the rotor can run in its own momentum. Easy.
But a trick, what if we use a high efficiënt elektromagnet as the stator magnet?
We don't have to shield anymore and can use neodymium magnets !
"But a strong elektromagnet costs energy" say the dummies. Not anymore. There is an
elektromagnet that can hold a person with two AA BATTERIES ! They are on sale.
Just make those switchable and the engine is nearly ready. Smile and start building.
Then attach a generator to it."

Do these people know where these 2 AA batteries that can hold a person, are sold ?
If you can't that easy task you will never reach anything without the help of others.

This is called very dependant on others. Like a kid.

Offline Eniac5state

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #64 on: April 12, 2018, 02:35:57 PM »
Rstergar important.

  Your engine is missing the vital part. It needs a lightweight flywheel
  so that with one magnet action, the engineshaft will turn 5 times by
  itself. A lightweight (fly)wheel with good bearings from a kidsbike.
  Not a heavy massive wheel. So attach a longer axle and the flywheel sits
  beside the table. Now we are getting somewhere. In the very beginning
  a car engine was 8 liters and 30 hp. Nowerdays we have a 0,5 liter
  engine with 340 hp. Just a bit of extra knowhow gives extremely better
  results. No good flywheel = no working magnet engine !
 

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Offline norman6538

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #65 on: April 12, 2018, 05:03:41 PM »
Thank you :)

But this model will not work because I must start over and create it more precise and with better materials than plastic...

Here is my new idea of design: https://youtu.be/oAvcmSFOfns

I will start ASAP...will update here ;)

Regarding the animation - how do you keep the metal from getting stuck at the magnet?

Norman

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #66 on: June 20, 2018, 12:45:56 AM »
It  has been a while since i did the research on this motor the force holding the metal blocks when near the magnet  is not strong using my hand i successfully  could make the motor spin easy when rocking the blocks back and forward on the magnets with the model i made,  the difficulty is with the cam system getting it right, i still think it can work but have been to busy to do any work on it lately its timing and the materials used that are important.

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #67 on: June 20, 2018, 07:28:30 AM »
It  has been a while since i did the research on this motor the force holding the metal blocks when near the magnet  is not strong using my hand i successfully  could make the motor spin easy when rocking the blocks back and forward on the magnets with the model i made,  the difficulty is with the cam system getting it right, i still think it can work but have been to busy to do any work on it lately its timing and the materials used that are important.
It is very hard, if not impossible, to determine the energy you spend with your hands to make this motor going.
A weak magnet, and with a motor without load, you will barely feel any counterwork done on your hand.
Using a cam system will most probably cause the weak motor to stop. The easiest explanation why it will stop is because magnetism isn't energy. It's just a force.


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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #68 on: June 20, 2018, 11:56:07 PM »
you are wrong there my model is made of solid steel and welded nearly lost a finger tip as the force of the rotor approaches the magnets there is real force and not just a bit as i said problem  is the timing.i used neodymium magnets x2 on each face when it is near the face of the rotor  you cant stop it it is not a kids motor, and mine is only small imagine a big one. 
I used steel because its all i had but what i really want is cast iron for the rotor plates i can't find any hear where i am as it adds even more to the attraction force when you get serious about building this motor
there are real forces involved and you have to be careful with it.

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #69 on: June 21, 2018, 05:27:01 PM »
@dmo444

I'd be interested to learn more about your magnet-motor research. Would you be willing to share some pictures of what you are doing?


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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #70 on: July 22, 2018, 11:33:12 AM »
here is my new idea...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLTESkXFSr8 - but when I put magnets inside shielding rotor it is hard to rotate.. it has sticky point...
so I came up with new idea:=
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWDlUEB3h98 - but still sticky point .... so now I have a new idea...
i will fix magnets with rotation shielding...so everything will rotate...
I will update ;)

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Offline dom444

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #71 on: November 26, 2018, 12:48:34 AM »
here is a simple way to make an attraction motor based on Fredrich Luling principal using an electromagnet to break the magnetic lock.
you can ad one electromagnet assembly for each magnet for more power and capture the back emf with a diode as well.
As a matter of fact you can multiply the magnets and attractor assemblies into a very powerful motor with little power to run.

I just noticed this is a Bedini machine with attractor plates to give power to the wheel.

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #72 on: November 26, 2018, 01:36:14 AM »
here it is modernized,
I have tested the electromagnet attractor steel piece combination and it 100% works test it yourself?
this design could also be optimized with pulse width control of coils to further reduce consumption, back emf could charge another battery while in use like Bedini motor as well.
Also notice that this design produces high amount of torque when magnets are attracted all at the same time I have not built it yet but I am sure it will be a good performance design.




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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #73 on: November 29, 2018, 07:56:49 AM »
narrowing at the end

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #74 on: November 29, 2018, 08:07:29 AM »
... and a magnet from sticking


 

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