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Author Topic: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor  (Read 134794 times)

nix85

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #255 on: February 15, 2023, 12:00:09 AM »
Nix
Here we have have open source builders asking you to help with your claims?
Many would beg for such help....

We've been through this. Firstly cut the silly act, for years and years you've been repeating

"world desperately needs just one !" and "just one will do !" and "do you have any now ?"

Yes world needs it, but it does not need it desperately, humanity is at a certain level of moral / intellectual / spiritual development, if time was ripe it would've happened long ago, technology is not the issue, there are thousands of devices, i think you know that. OU will become widely replicated and mainstream when humanity is ready for it, not a second earlier. Until then it will be reality for those who make it themselves or get one on the black market (and i hear it's big).

I know well we have builders and i am one of them. No one is asking or begging for help, forum is for sharing ideas, knowledge, builds, including videos of others' success, so those who resonate with it can either replicate or get inspired to do something along similar lines or maybe something totally different. That's the beauty of an open forum.

But most 'builders' do not operate on high enough energy level, knowledge and understanding is lacking, as well as clear vision.

I gave some concrete solutions over the years but people rarely see others' vision and even when they do at least partially they would rather wait for the other to do it than invest their own time and energy. Just the last solution i shared is far bigger deal than you realize, the FACT that strong magnetic field can be shielded with minimal energy using a screen of repelling magnets covered with iron of proper thickness. But how many will try it, i'll tell you, not one is going to try it cause they don't see it clearly, they would rather wait for me to try it and even if i claimed success they would be skeptical to no end. Yet, i see clearly this is the solution even without building it, and build it i will when its turn comes since i am now doing another project of higher priority.

So, to summarize, OU, like everything, is a big learning experience for everyone in it, and those who are passionate and persistent will be awarded, slowly but surely, with deeper understanding of all associated phenomena and finally with solutions, not one but multiple, cause when the flood gate opens it opens big.

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #256 on: February 15, 2023, 12:12:54 AM »
As for 'claiming' if others' devices work, i addressed that already, when i share others' devices i am clearly expressing my opinion, that is, that i think it works (or does not). As i have written for Yildiz

"If it was not real do you really think he would go to such lengths of starting a series production of generator units based on his magnet motors, giving public demonstrations in universities all over."

And for Yussefi

"As for skepticism would Daniel Yussefi go to these lengths, build such complex machines, invest in marketing and attempt series production/selling (before they silenced (killed?) him) if it did not work, of course he would not."

Would they, of course they would not, this is common sense. + We hear about magnetic repulsion OU in so many other examples like Danzik of Earth Engine etc.

I mean, to have any doubt Yildiz's motors work is in my opinion either lack of research or lack of intelligence. You simply cannot have looked into it deeply and exit thinking hoax. For Yussefi one can retain a level of doubt cause he never gave a demonstration, but the above arguments stand, would he go to such lengths if it didn't work + magnetic repulsion is a common OU claim.

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #257 on: February 15, 2023, 01:04:08 AM »
Nix
Because just one open sourced FE device that runs with gain is all that is needed
Always been that way !
Your comments and mission statement speak volumes!


I will ask you again
Have you personally had any success with a self running system
Of any type !

Just one self sustaining gain mechanism ( “perhaps “ as you point out with your shielding comment?or pick another..?
?
There are builders here waiting to replicate!
Community can put a budget together to make it happen !


Just one success you have from your bench!
There are moderated builders boards where no one will
Interfere!
Volunteers wishing to build !!
Edit for comment below
It’s yes or no Nix
Do you have or don’t you?
Sideways answers  “concrete solutions “ sounds like no real answer!


As you write “thousands” out there !
We did this exact thing years ago … you showed some attempts
And said “not yet” ( then was also comments of much stronger claims and words
Like concrete solutions!!
Please just be honest!
Yes or no !

















nix85

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #258 on: February 15, 2023, 01:13:51 AM »
Easy, no need for drama or exclamation marks. Like i said such device will not happen until humanity is ready and i think you know it very very well, makes me wonder why you insist so hard on the act and drama.

What humanity needs more than OU device is to rise to higher level of intelligence, morality and spirituality. Then and only then OU devices will be massively replicated and you'll be able to get one in the store.

Unlike you, i give concrete solutions, for those able to see and hear, so yes that speaks volumes. Far more than exclamation marks and soap operas. You need to start being honest and lose the useless act.

We've been through this. Firstly cut the silly act, for years and years you've been repeating

"world desperately needs just one !" and "just one will do !" and "do you have any now ?"

Yes world needs it, but it does not need it desperately, humanity is at a certain level of moral / intellectual / spiritual development, if time was ripe it would've happened long ago, technology is not the issue, there are thousands of devices, i think you know that. OU will become widely replicated and mainstream when humanity is ready for it, not a second earlier. Until then it will be reality for those who make it themselves or get one on the black market (and i hear it's big).

I know well we have builders and i am one of them. No one is asking or begging for help, forum is for sharing ideas, knowledge, builds, including videos of others' success, so those who resonate with it can either replicate or get inspired to do something along similar lines or maybe something totally different. That's the beauty of an open forum.

But most 'builders' do not operate on high enough energy level, knowledge and understanding is lacking, as well as clear vision.

I gave some concrete solutions over the years but people rarely see others' vision and even when they do at least partially they would rather wait for the other to do it than invest their own time and energy. Just the last solution i shared is far bigger deal than you realize, the FACT that strong magnetic field can be shielded with minimal energy using a screen of repelling magnets covered with iron of proper thickness. But how many will try it, i'll tell you, not one is going to try it cause they don't see it clearly, they would rather wait for me to try it and even if i claimed success they would be skeptical to no end. Yet, i see clearly this is the solution even without building it, and build it i will when its turn comes since i am now doing another project of higher priority.

So, to summarize, OU, like everything, is a big learning experience for everyone in it, and those who are passionate and persistent will be awarded, slowly but surely, with deeper understanding of all associated phenomena and finally with solutions, not one but multiple, cause when the flood gate opens it opens big.

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #259 on: February 15, 2023, 09:06:47 AM »
nix85,
Let this go into your piggy bank of knowledge:  ;)

nix85

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #260 on: February 15, 2023, 09:32:41 AM »
boja,

Nah, i'll pass on that, that's essentially the same as one i shared recently and God knows how many older similar motors. You add this one to your piggy bank of knowledge. ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wz1pIOLV-Rg

ramset

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #261 on: February 15, 2023, 05:55:39 PM »
Nix
Would be much better you put a tag on your posts
That you are in disagreement with forum open source
 mission statement !
Also that you have not personally examined any you tubes you link to for independent verification
And that as of yet you have nothing from experiments of your own to personally show
 a self running gain mechanism.


Of any kind ,
Here a very impressive company which had all manner of experts etc etc
And had to refund all money.


https://nuetec--forschung-de.translate.goog/Earth%20Engine/Earth%20Engine.html?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp


Regarding black market
Yes a big problem with persons harvesting from unsuspecting persons reading forums,
Showing tiny bits…
And waiting for people to contact them for money harvest .
Very big business for some behind the scenes
Also methods to grab power from mains power “a different sea of energy “ grid systems ( very private business I imagine)

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Open source with independent replication.
Or just another Guess !


Please share your personal positive results for open source replication .


Sorry you disagree very very much with open source,
Perhaps your own venue will get enough followers ?
Maybe your evolution of humanity will inspire them ( few centuries??


Respectfully
Chet K
Ps
Here the house you are a guest in
And the mission statement!
Here the open source builders ask your help with open sourcing  of your work
Not YouTube’s
Or your unsupported theories ( with your own empirical testing open to scrutiny
And begging replication ( scientific method of brutal honesty..run towards scrutiny
Not away from scrutiny.
A theory which may seem obvious or to you “concrete” …needs empirical open source replication.


That’s the house you visit here ..and the builders are here to do it .
And as mentioned open source community can put a budget to cover
Replication costs .
Please share your own work .






nix85

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #262 on: February 17, 2023, 05:44:10 PM »
Ramset, i told you to stop the useless act, learn electronics and overunity and start contributing CONCRETELY, start building. Dramatizing and exclamation marks ain't helping anyone.

You again make false accusations.

I am most definitely NOT "in disagreement with forum open source mission statement".

ALL i said is that at the moment ou devices have still not become mainstream - as we all know.

You twisted this into LIE that i am "against open build". Have you no shame.


Never did i say or imply anything like that. Just the contrary, i am about TOTAL OPENESS,
TOTAL DISCOSLURE OF OVERUNITY, and ALL my posts are about that.

I gave actual solution for magnet neutralization

https://overunity.com/15864/friedrich-luling-magnet-motor/msg574018/#msg574018

i gave solution for lenz cancelation

https://overunity.com/18619/another-lenzless-idea/

floodrod is trying to replicate the motor i shared

etc.......And what have you done but dramatize.

Regarding black market, you again sleazily try to create the impression that all selling OU devices in what i called "black market" are scammers, black only in a sense of not being public, open, but done 'under the counter'. We all know what happens to those who try to sell OU devices openly, how many have been killed.

Unlike what you try to portray, i hear about real devices being sold, there is no doubt about that, flywheel, magnetic, HHO to solid state, all kinds of working devices are being sold and have been for years, AS TIME WILL SHOW. Just because you don't know about something does not mean it does not happen (on massive scale overall).

And again you try to discredit all overunity devices on youtube - just cause they are on youtube. There are many real ou devices on youtube - deal with it.

And, unlike you, i am building, my Don Smith attempt below, what did you build, ever.

Than you sleazly make another false accusation of "running away from scrutiny".  You are again talking about yourself. I am surely not running away from anything, i give open ideas and i present them 100% openly as i did my Don Smith attempt and i also openly described my 2014. Thomas Engel motor attempt that failed, so everything i say and do is with 100% transparency 100% open to scrunity.

Then you again sleazily repeat "builders are here" altho you know well i am a builder, unlike you.

And then you again repeat the lie that i am against open builds, you are talking about yourself and you even build on that claiming i got my "own venue" suggesting i have conspired against open builds lol, you are really desperate.

"Maybe your evolution of humanity will inspire them ( few centuries??"

You're talking to the mirror, it's exactly with your 'contributions' that it would take centuries, or even millenia to get to any concrete solution. My concrete solutions, particularly magnet and lenz neutralization are actual solutions, based on simple overlooked principles that lead to breakthroughs.

To finish with irony you say "Please share your own work",
you are looking at my work, my DS replica attempt, when will we see something like that from you. So YOU share your own work for a change.

I already listed some of my contributions, from magnet neutralization to lenz neutralization to all the rest, just these two things alone have infinite value - for those able to recognize them and put in the work. Since we still can't buy these devies in the store we have to make them ourselves. My threads illuminated all readers in technical/scientific way nicely correlated with subtle aspects of reality.

.......

And since jimboot keeps deleting my posts on Holcomb thread i am replying here

Firstly the hypocrisy, he dares mention helpfulness, he has no helpful posts, i got many. Secondly, i did not baselessly accuse anyone and was not rude, starting with SL he mentioned his lingen thing, i asked what is it, he said nevermind since you dont know, i said now that you mentioned im curious, then he linked tons of threads and said its the "first verified replicable ou device", i said ok, can you back it up by a video or a measurement, and then instead of backing it up, he classified me as another "troll" (since he calls everyone troll who questions him) and started to troll me. I agree it was horrific but i did not start it and yet my posts got deleted, i got moderated, and to SL nothing.

And my post from few days ago i wrote (and since Jimboot deleted it i hope there is a backup but enough people saw it to confirm)

"Simulations are nice but as Don said there is a big difference between simulations and reality, we need actual tests/measurements."

and for this ramset called me "horrific", "offending member", accused me of trying to "derail the thread" all for nothing, without any reason at all. And again, all my replies to insults and false accusations and original post where i said we need tests not sims were deleted by jimboot, not ramset's or citfa's who also jumped in with insults and false accusations out of the blue sky and now i remembered why, few years back on thread about inertial propulsion i told him there is a better way than his inertial device and he got butthurt, this i can prove, it's all there, and he attacked for this, for nothing. What kind of 'moderation' is that.e sky. What kind of 'moderation' is that.


Ramset and citfa only talk about themselves.

Also, i did not write falsehoods about ramset, he indeed denied Milkovic pendulum and called it "nothing ou".

https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/msg570373/#msg570373

And i am surely not "running away from scrutinty" as he accuses me, i always was, am and always will be for 100% open total disclosure of overunity.

If i were not would i give actual solutions, for magnet neutralization screen, for lenz canceled coil..... try it, see if it works.

https://overunity.com/18619/another-lenzless-idea/

https://overunity.com/15864/friedrich-luling-magnet-motor/msg574018/#msg574018

And what solution did ramset or citfa ever give, zero, nada.

I always spoke the truth and for this i get attacked.

As for jimboot's last accusation of "selfish and juvenile behaviour" and "littering thread with nonsense", just more projections from someone who contributed nothing.

Also what you wrote about simulations is wrong, simulations 20 years ago were as advanced as today and that's not the point. In this lecture from 2001. Don said some sim softwares got OU enabled and some not, most not already back then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7GHqw7d1No
« Last Edit: February 18, 2023, 03:49:58 AM by nix85 »