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Author Topic: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor  (Read 101825 times)

Offline synchro1

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #105 on: September 07, 2021, 08:10:48 PM »
Cool video from Ramondslab.

"It lifts it up and shoots it forward"! Ray's shotgun effect :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuSO9seITLc

Ray shows the repulsion force greatest when the stator face of his ferrite keeper is perpendicular to the opposite pole magnet. A side shot of Luling's keeper appears to be trapezoidal.

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #106 on: September 08, 2021, 11:22:10 AM »
I think, the magnet circled in red make correct circular movements?
Is it possible to place it not on a rod, but on a rotating non-magnetic disk?

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #107 on: September 08, 2021, 04:36:38 PM »
Well, yes. I understood this from this text.

Hello kolbacict,

Well, that "text" was taken from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnet_motor


And it basically says that it is "impossible" to make a Motor, where Stator and Rotor are based on Permanent Magnets...that it "lingers" in the "Parascience" and even fall into "esoterism"....HAHAHAHAHA...LOL

And this is the reason WHY, I COMPLETELY REFUSE to involve ANY Electromagnets in my design, AT ALL!!

Just because I rather use AIR, WATER, or anything, except dependence on a Magnetic Field generated by a Coil WITHIN the Motor I am showing...

That it is very close to a  Motion  Perpetual Machine?...DEFINITELY YES!!

But that I am claiming "Overunity" on this Air dependent Motor?...NOPE...

This is just a "Learning Tool" as I mentioned on my video...I can build a much more robust and clever prototype, based on Aluminum, Brass, Steel...then We will be talking about "Overunity"...because Then, and only then, I will be inserting Generating Coils and measuring Output in V & A...

However, this "Learning Tool" develops over 400 RPM's with just Four, very small 1/2 inch Neos ...and no, it don't look like a clumsy, small little toy that looks like a Musical Rythm or a METRONOME...LOL

imagine a firing order type, metal built prototype...with six Modules of Six Magnets per plates...or eight...

That it can run a Compressor?
You can bet your Arse it would!!

Regards


Ufopolitics

Guys, my logo here, may show the word "Newbie" but do NOT FOOL yourselves by that little word...I have been around for a very long time.

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #108 on: September 08, 2021, 05:00:51 PM »
Probably something between " theory of sonics" by Georgu Constantinescu and
internal energy/external energy from fluids by Israel Hirshberg ?

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #109 on: September 08, 2021, 07:38:12 PM »
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Guys, my logo here, may show the word "Newbie" but do NOT FOOL yourselves by that little word...I have been around for a very long time.
At least I don't think so.
Did Luling have pneumatics or hydraulics in his device?

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #110 on: September 08, 2021, 09:32:37 PM »
At least I don't think so.
Did Luling have pneumatics or hydraulics in his device?

You do not think WHAT?
Finally WTF DO I CARE WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT ME?

Who should we say is a NEWBIE or better called, an IGNORANT in Here?

I get SMARTER responses in YouTube than in this place...incredible!!
And YouTube is NOT a MEMBERSHIP place where a lot of "supposedly experienced" people log in...LOL

Take a closer look at images below...and if you still say it don't have PNEUMATICS...It is just "simply" because you know jack sh*t about it!!

It is a 1080 HD Image...So it could be clearly seen the Air Valve, Air Piston, Air Solenoid Valves, plus all the Aluminum Lines...running all around the Motor!!

So, either you are blind or Stupid...simple

And for your "knowledge" smart a$$, Hydraulics Systems are TOO SLOW to be even mentioned as a possibility on this device, the way it acts and moves...it just shows me "Your great Hero Experience"...LOL
« Last Edit: October 21, 2021, 10:43:53 PM by hartiberlin »

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #111 on: September 09, 2021, 09:08:31 AM »
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You do not think WHAT?
I think you are not a newbie. :)
p.s.If the air pump of the Luling's device is driven by the magnetic motor itself,but by not elektromotor ,   then this changes the matter.

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #112 on: September 09, 2021, 11:17:06 AM »
Mario Gudec's 3d shows magnet Arcs on the rotor : A latching relay could replace the mechanical mechanisem. It looks like the trigger magnets just slip the attraction pole entirely and that the motor is powered by the repulsion alone. The rods over the trigger magnets must be shielding material. Ramondslab has a shielding video that shows how to use this Gimmick. The motor is powered by rotating and returning the rods 45 degrees.
« Last Edit: September 09, 2021, 03:29:35 PM by synchro1 »

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #113 on: September 09, 2021, 03:33:34 PM »
Luling's "45 degree Rocking Rods" must have magnetic shielding properties. The force to compress and latch the springs comes from the repulsion between the stator and rotor magnets.

Ray powers a rotor by flipping at 45 degrees coupled with shield alignment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J8uPhKwjG4

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #114 on: September 09, 2021, 06:08:53 PM »
One thing is for certain: Luling's keeper rod flips when the neutral zone appears. Gudec's 3d shows where the traveller magnets unlatch in repulsion from the middle force of the rotor magnets. 4 points of repulsion converge for the power stroke! The springs assist the weaker power stroke.

A close inspection of Gudec's schematic shows staggered lines at 45 degrees along the keeper cam shaft. I think it would take a little offset to get it to spin. That may help explain why there are two cams!

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #115 on: September 14, 2021, 04:06:17 PM »
Hello,


I am sorry, but this guy, Mario Gudec, (see video below) has it all wrong  on his 3D CAD setup about Lüling...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmGx_XQTOHw

His Stator Magnets are mounted on springs??
He adds an electric "Motor" in his little yellow box, which supposedly spins the whole shaft?

All of the above is WRONG!!

His Magnetic Polarizations are also wrong...

He does not even mention the word NEUTRALIZATION...and that is the basic knowledge required to understand Lüling Motor.

Plus, I will repeat myself AGAIN!!...Lüling does NOT uses any Electrical Motors nor coils to achieve rotation on ANY of his Motors.

The only electrical coils Lüling uses are the two Air Valve Solenoids in the front of Motor, at right and left upper ends.

Come on Guys...just because He shows some nice 3D Colored CAD's...that is enough to convince You?

Has He done any REAL BUILT PROTOTYPE, to back up his claims?

Absolutely Zero, NONE!!...But, People believe his drawings are correct...hahahahaha


Cheers



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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #116 on: September 14, 2021, 04:38:59 PM »
Hello,


I am sorry, but this guy, Mario Gudec, (see video below) has it all wrong  on his 3D CAD setup about Lüling...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmGx_XQTOHw

His Stator Magnets are mounted on springs??
He adds an electric "Motor" in his little yellow box, which supposedly spins the whole shaft?

All of the above is WRONG!!

His Magnetic Polarizations are also wrong...

He does not even mention the word NEUTRALIZATION...and that is the basic knowledge required to understand Lüling Motor.

Plus, I will repeat myself AGAIN!!...Lüling does NOT uses any Electrical Motors nor coils to achieve rotation on ANY of his Motors.

The only electrical coils Lüling uses are the two Air Valve Solenoids in the front of Motor, at right and left upper ends.

Come on Guys...just because He shows some nice 3D Colored CAD's...that is enough to convince You?

Has He done any REAL BUILT PROTOTYPE, to back up his claims?

Absolutely Zero, NONE!!...But, People believe his drawings are correct...hahahahaha


Cheers



Ufopolitics

@Ufopolitics,

Let's say the drawing's correct. Would the Cams work together or would they alternate?

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #118 on: September 14, 2021, 05:11:50 PM »
@Ufopolitics,

Let's say the drawing's correct. Would the Cams work together or would they alternate?

Hello Synchro1,

The "cams" as you call them...and Gudec shows Four (4) Plus Two on each Stator...are only on the Motor that is NOT running, but the prototype he spins with his fingers...
The Running Motor, and the one I am following, and reproducing, just because it is running, plus seen in more detail...does not have "Magnetic Cams", but instead, they are Transfer Rods for the Angular Mechanic Movements...for the Steel Arc that reciprocates back and forth in the back...and...Both Transferring Shafts are only moved by air pistons and a pivot bracket seen on Right Left upper side, in the front plate.

We can NOT mix both Models!!...as they are different, same principle, but different in Structure

That prototype Luling shows next to him, not running...and that He spins the Rotor and "Cam"...has Two Modules only.
And the Motor that is running, has Four Modules of Rotors and Steel Arc Plates.

That not running motor we all know absolutely nothing...and "theorizing" or "imagine" is all we can do...
While the Running Model...has many different angles of view...PLUS, it is Running!!

P.D: But, still, Gudec Drawing is NOT correct!!


Cheers
« Last Edit: October 21, 2021, 10:43:27 PM by hartiberlin »

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #119 on: September 14, 2021, 05:21:18 PM »
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://gehtanders.de/friedrich-lueling-magnetmotor/




compared


http://www.rexresearch.com/kenyon/kenyon.htm magnetic force decrease or increase or neutralizing concept


Lueling his 4x4 magnet motor


with


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19720623&CC=FR&NR=2112768A5&KC=A5




only magnetic : a claim


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=6&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19920423&CC=DE&NR=4033061A1&KC=A1


citing documents : !


btw : https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://gehtanders.de/Downloads/NET0715S26.pdf&usg=ALkJrhhYadwdk5bFh0gONL4HeAJJVOpVzQ



 Meanwhile
he think the engine so far
to have perfected that he
him in the UFO newsreel
could imagine for the first time.

Hello,

What is your point?

Neutralization is only utilized as a SWITCH...

1- By Turning Neutralization ON...Magnets in the Rotor, Spin Freely.
2- By Turning Neutralization OFF in JUST ONE of the Two Interactions (Attract or Repulse), it ENHANCES, STRENGHTEN, UNLEASHES the other one.
3- Neutralization goes back ON, In order for rotor Magnets to pass the Sticking Point...or to pass the repulsion Cogging...depending which Interaction You are using to Spin Rotor...Repulse or Attract.

That simple Guys...


Cheers