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Buoyancy Generator #36
« on: June 19, 2015, 01:27:55 AM »
Here Described, is a Buoyancy Energy Generation System, to create electrical energy.

I'll post a drawing first, then an explanation of its' functionality.

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Buoyancy Generator #36
« on: June 19, 2015, 01:27:55 AM »

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Re: Buoyancy Generator #36
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2015, 01:39:28 AM »
The system is comprised of two pressurized fluid chambers, A and B.
Connected by a hydraulic hose (1), with a switchable pressure control valve (4).

Chamber A has a greater pressure than chamber B. When the valve is opened, pressure equalizes in both chambers, thus increasing pressure in chamber B.
The increase in pressure causes an open-ended air-filled buoy (3) to lose buoyancy, and valve is closed again.
 the Buoy then falls to the bottom of chamber B. Buoy is connected by a rod, to a magnet (6), and a piston (2) in chamber A.
While the buoy falls, the magnet is passed across a coil (7), generating electricity.
The piston lowers in Chamber A, thus decreasing pressure in Chamber A.

When valve is opened again, pressure equalizes in both chambers, and Buoy regains buoyancy. Then valve is closed again.
While Buoy rises, the magnet is passed across the coil, generating electricity.
The piston rises in Chamber A, thus increasing the pressure in Chamber A again.
The cycle is repeated.

Latches (5) at top and bottom of Chamber B, hold the Buoy in place while valve is open, and release when valve is closed.




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Re: Buoyancy Generator #36
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2015, 01:51:59 AM »
Operating principal::

The laws of hydrostatic pressure were originally described by Hermes Trismegistus in 5th century B.C., then reiterated by Archimedes the Great between 2nd and 3rd century B.C.

Simply put, in modern terms - Pressure in a sealed vessel is equal throughout the vessel.

Here is a demonstration of how it works, original experiment designed by Rene Descartes of France (1596-1650), wherein a pressurized buoy, loses buoyancy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5eIRjmor1w


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Re: Buoyancy Generator #36
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2015, 01:51:59 AM »
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Re: Buoyancy Generator #36
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2015, 02:58:15 AM »
Bonus question:  What would happen if instead of an eye dropper, the float was made from a sealed glass tube.

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Re: Buoyancy Generator #36
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2015, 11:28:33 AM »
Bonus question:  What would happen if instead of an eye dropper, the float was made from a sealed glass tube.

If the buoy is sealed, there will be no pressure change on the air-mass, and thus the change in buoyancy will only be a factor of the increased fluid pressure, which is not much change at all.
buoyancy will not be lost/regained each cycle, and the system will not function as intended.

Note that the change in buoyancy is due to the increase in pressure inside the eye dropper. This compresses the airmass, increasing its' density.
When the density of the air equals that of the water buoyancy becomes 0. When the air + the mass of the eye dropper becomes more dense than the water it is displacing , it becomes non-buoyant.

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Re: Buoyancy Generator #36
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2015, 01:02:22 AM »
OK, I redesigned this to make it simpler.
got rid of a few parts, and fixed some technical issues.

Pressure can be controlled by ports, that line up with a hole on the displacer mechanism.
and instead of mounting the two tanks vertically, they are side by side (gravity!! oops)
so, no valve, no latches. The location of the Buoy controls when the pressure is transferred between the two tanks.

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Re: Buoyancy Generator #36
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2015, 01:40:28 AM »
the next step is to select the Bouy im going to use, and performs a few tests to determine how much pressure increase is needed to compress the air-head.
I plan to use water for the first prototype, although a more dense hydraulic fluid or something might be more advantageous in future builds.

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Re: Buoyancy Generator #36
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2015, 02:44:38 AM »
Hi Smoky,
I don't completely understand how your system works, but I
can understand how the system in the video works-
there the energy is supplied by squeezing the bottle, which in turn
sends more water into the dropper, and makes it to sink.
Where the energy comes from in your system?
Regards

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Re: Buoyancy Generator #36
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2015, 01:03:17 AM »
Hi Smoky,
I don't completely understand how your system works, but I
can understand how the system in the video works-
there the energy is supplied by squeezing the bottle, which in turn
sends more water into the dropper, and makes it to sink.
Where the energy comes from in your system?
Regards

Thanks for the interest Telecom
In this system the "initial" energy is input as pressure in tank B (the pressure ports should both be closed when the pressure is input)
Afterwards, the pressure in be released, and when equilibrium is reached, 1/2 of the pressure will be in each tank.
Coincidentally, 1/2 of this initial pressure is sufficient to compress the air in the Buoy. - like the squeeze of the bottle.
As the Buoy sinks and reaches the bottom of its' travel, the port holes line up on the displacer, and the displacer has now moved outwards
   this increases the volume of tank B, which lowers tank B's pressure by 1/2 of the initial input pressure.
Since tank A is now +1.2  and tank B is -1/2 of that amount of pressure.......
     the 1/2 pressure that entered tank A, will travel back to tank B as the pressure equalizes once again.
The Buoy will now rise back to the top, where the upper port hole lines up and the system cycles
  At this point, the displacer has traveled back into tank B, thus increasing the pressure back to there it started.

Therefore, it must be designed such that the Buoyant force is equal or greater than the force required to pressurize tank B
And the volume of the water in tank A must be greater by an amount equal to the volume displaced by the Buoy.

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Re: Buoyancy Generator #36
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2015, 01:03:17 AM »
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Re: Buoyancy Generator #36
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2015, 02:33:24 AM »
little more of the "how it works"


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Re: Buoyancy Generator #36
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2015, 02:53:25 AM »
The Buoy on a lever is similar to the float system inside a toilet tank.
but instead of using the Buoyant force to shut off a water valve, we are using it to displace a certain amount of water with a piston.

When the Buoy is non Buoyant, the force of gravity sinks it just like when your toilet tank is empty and the float falls, using that force to turn the water back on again.

Only in a submerged Buoy, this force is the force of gravity - the displacement (upwards) force.

    given the volume of air that was started with, and its' density, we could establish a relationship with the density of the same amount of air at its' new volume.
then using the mass of the Buoy structure itself + the mass of the air, we can establish the actual "fall force" at a given Buoy weight.
This force x the leverage = the upwards force acting on the displacer to evacuate the fluid, lowering its' pressure by a factor of the volume displaced.



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Re: Buoyancy Generator #36
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2015, 02:53:25 AM »
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