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Offline Magnethos

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Correa-Smith power from plasma
« on: June 19, 2015, 08:23:18 PM »
We've been more than one person that have been cautivated by Don Smith and his technologies. While searching other information in the net, I've been aware of a curious correlation. One of the Don Smith experiments was to put a coil around a plasma globe and extract energy from it. Paulo Correa has worked extensively for almost 30 years on a technology that shares a lot with Don Smith plasma globe. There was also a russian man called A.Chernetsky that also got a similar device.

So I would like to discuss with other users this technology.

I've attached some pictures, the first one is from Don Smith and the second one if from P.Correa.

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Correa-Smith power from plasma
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Re: Correa-Smith power from plasma
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2015, 12:34:50 AM »
This is very interesting ! Dark energy is a possibility here ! Plasma balls like the high voltage charged ion ones are used to try and isolate dark energy but as yet no record of any success not that I have found ... But here there seems to be something  ? Could be radiant energy alpha particles negative ions ect ect ...... How much energy are they getting over the input ???

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Re: Correa-Smith power from plasma
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2015, 09:15:00 AM »
This is very interesting ! Dark energy is a possibility here ! Plasma balls like the high voltage charged ion ones are used to try and isolate dark energy but as yet no record of any success not that I have found ... But here there seems to be something  ? Could be radiant energy alpha particles negative ions ect ect ...... How much energy are they getting over the input ???

ATOM1

I've read something about this technology and it's possible to extract energy from the 'ambient background'. As you know, when the plasma is switched on the ambient background is stimulated and the ZPE is invoked. The plasma excites the ambient, so when you switch off the plasma, the ambient returns to equilibrium. Is in that phase of 'returning to equilibrium' when it's possible to extract useful energy to perform work.

That energy is longitudinal energy that must be converted to electromagnetic energy. The main 'secret' of this circuit is to tune correctly the device to create the effect we're looking for. The results are different, you can get less that you use to stimulate the plasma or even great amounts of excess energy from the ambient background. In some cases I've read COP = 20.

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Re: Correa-Smith power from plasma
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2015, 01:15:51 PM »
Ambient energy ? That term is ambiguous it neither describes the finite conditions of the energy it self and with so many different results that can occur one must look closer at this ... Energy or free energy is always considered as a movement of mass either dropping or rising
Stimulating pressure inside a coil where the so called free electrons are pushed around... This tends not to consider the quantum mechanics of energy it self the strangeness that it is capable to perform.. The chance to isolate the characteristics of strange energy behaviour is over looked in the search for a drop of energy...

Dark matter and dark energy are required to hold a spinning galaxy together and let us say that the energy at the event horizon of a black hole is energy plasma! The relationship between a quantized drop from a battery and a drop of plasma into the singularity of a black hole also have characteristics of the same kind as with the plasma ball set up ... It would not surprise me that all plasma is also connected by quantum entanglement a type of vacuum between energy its mass but without the constraints of time and space.

Take away time and space and the void is no more resulting in an energy that is formed by this collapse and one that can lead to answering many important questions ! Is the universe formed by such a collapse and creating an energy mass from only time and space?

There is no open lab on line experimental department that can take these methods and work them into a set of confirmed standard equations for all phenomena and we are left in a constant position of confusion !

I ask is there anyone here that has space for such a lab ? And it to be funded by donation from all that would want the results with an agreement that any profits created by such technologies to be administered as a development fund for all the good of the world.......

No government will do such a thing or university so its time we all step up and make it a reality !

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Re: Correa-Smith power from plasma
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2015, 01:31:24 PM »
You cannot get more energy out than you put in, so the energy is coming from somewhere except from the source itself. So, the energy is coming from the space around. Call it ZPE, Earth's magnetic field, ambient static potential, ambient energy...

As you, I've proposed also (in another forum) to make like a crownfunding to develop technology. There are some people with a lot of free time, some knowledge and a lot of curiosity. If we make small donations (5 to 10 USD per month) like a suscription, one person can buy a lot of different things to experiment and upload the results in the net. I will pay that amount per month. 100 users can contribute with a minimum of 500 USD/month between all. That is enough money to buy tools.

I see that we're with lots of theory and just a few of real results. Nature doesn't understand textbooks, and the only way is to test and see. I'm a user of this forum for more than 7 years and I think we're almost in the same step as the first day.

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Re: Correa-Smith power from plasma
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2015, 08:06:34 PM »
MAGNETHOS ! Sir I greet you along the path and see that the grass is green under your feet and to them that sow the seeds reap the rewards of the fruit to share as a long waited moment of reality that is so needed ! I to agree to the donation and have many real technologies ready for inspection and conformation. I am lucky that also I am with a small government loan for the development of new energy technology to that I place here 5000 unemployed looking for a job. All are entitled to the same loan of up to £1000 and other fees as to there cost of travel and overnight accommodation for there interview . This is £40 per night with a permitted two night grant of that amount so £80..... I expect 1 in ten will be offered a franchise from us as to them holding a energy technology from us. To that I will place before all and everyone what I believe to be the cheapest safest free energy home generator available.....

It is now that we come forward and stand as one and one for all ! open the account form the agreement and begin ASAP !


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Re: Correa-Smith power from plasma
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2015, 08:30:34 PM »
Stephan has branded Don Smith a "Fake" in previous posts!

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« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2015, 10:52:55 PM »
SYNCRO 1 We are all equal the good the bad the young the old the right the wrong ! Our judgement comes when we are in the teleportation department hahah Until than only encourage all to enjoy the new world we are now creating ! Avoid the black cloud blanket approach and character assassination direct or indirect .... Its not nice !

Take the message from magnethos and me the ATOM as re the funding proposal we are now considering and pass it around ! All are welcome ! And now back to the plasma !

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Re: Correa-Smith power from plasma
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2015, 09:38:07 AM »
I've started researching Correa's invention some 6 months ago and I have almost completed a pulsed 1500V, variable current source that will enable me to study the I vs V characteristics of various tubes. Without this device it is next to impossible to move forward as the tubes used need to have certain characteristics, especially a high voltage at the point of the abnormal glow to arc transition.  Replications are rare, but all the ones I've managed to find out about, all the way back to the Vortex1 archives to the few done on this site seem to have not been carried out in a concise manner and deviated from Correa's patents quickly.
 I've also discovered that the amount of research that has been done on gas discharge tubes is enormous, over 100 years of it, and you could easily fill a library full of the info, its just that most of the physics books out there simply do not discuss it much as it is a specialist field.

Correa also seems to have deliberately left out some other's research  when he claimed to have discovered a new type of field emission, requiring a much lower voltage field than predicted by current science.

After a few short years Correa shut his Labofex labs claiming that no-one was interested. I wonder how much money he got from investors? He also stuck his nose up at any attempts to replicate his invention on the Vortex1 site, where he often posted - strange when he was already protected by patents.
His discovery, now 20 years old has never been replicated in scientific journals either, surely you could get a Nobel Prize in physics!

I'm not going to make any conclusions until I've made some careful measurements of my own, but it seems for now, that the results, or lack of, show it was a false claim.



We've been more than one person that have been cautivated by Don Smith and his technologies. While searching other information in the net, I've been aware of a curious correlation. One of the Don Smith experiments was to put a coil around a plasma globe and extract energy from it. Paulo Correa has worked extensively for almost 30 years on a technology that shares a lot with Don Smith plasma globe. There was also a russian man called A.Chernetsky that also got a similar device.

So I would like to discuss with other users this technology.

I've attached some pictures, the first one is from Don Smith and the second one if from P.Correa.

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Re: Correa-Smith power from plasma
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2015, 09:38:07 AM »
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Re: Correa-Smith power from plasma
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2015, 11:26:50 AM »
I've started researching Correa's invention some 6 months ago and I have almost completed a pulsed 1500V, variable current source that will enable me to study the I vs V characteristics of various tubes. Without this device it is next to impossible to move forward as the tubes used need to have certain characteristics, especially a high voltage at the point of the abnormal glow to arc transition.  Replications are rare, but all the ones I've managed to find out about, all the way back to the Vortex1 archives to the few done on this site seem to have not been carried out in a concise manner and deviated from Correa's patents quickly.
 I've also discovered that the amount of research that has been done on gas discharge tubes is enormous, over 100 years of it, and you could easily fill a library full of the info, its just that most of the physics books out there simply do not discuss it much as it is a specialist field.

Correa also seems to have deliberately left out some other's research  when he claimed to have discovered a new type of field emission, requiring a much lower voltage field than predicted by current science.

After a few short years Correa shut his Labofex labs claiming that no-one was interested. I wonder how much money he got from investors? He also stuck his nose up at any attempts to replicate his invention on the Vortex1 site, where he often posted - strange when he was already protected by patents.
His discovery, now 20 years old has never been replicated in scientific journals either, surely you could get a Nobel Prize in physics!

I'm not going to make any conclusions until I've made some careful measurements of my own, but it seems for now, that the results, or lack of, show it was a false claim.

I also agree with you. I've almost never seen a person trying to replicate it.
You speak about Vortex1 site, Where can I find it?

I haven't read a lot about correa, but can you resume how it works?
As fas I know, it has 4 electrodes: 2 in the x axys and 2 in the y axis. I think one axis is to 'stimulate' and the other axis 'collects'. Right?
Well, I think when you excite the plasma and then switch off the energy, the plasma around the device has been excited and in the moment that you're not exciting more the plasma around the device (because you turn off the electricity), the excited plasma has to go to state of equilibrium. Depending on different factors, that 'return back to equilibrium' emmits some 'electronic signatures'. Depending the 'electronic signature' you'll have more or less electricity in the output. Right?

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Re: Correa-Smith power from plasma
« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2015, 01:38:48 PM »
I also agree with you. I've almost never seen a person trying to replicate it.
You speak about Vortex1 site, Where can I find it?

I haven't read a lot about correa, but can you resume how it works?
As fas I know, it has 4 electrodes: 2 in the x axys and 2 in the y axis. I think one axis is to 'stimulate' and the other axis 'collects'. Right?
Well, I think when you excite the plasma and then switch off the energy, the plasma around the device has been excited and in the moment that you're not exciting more the plasma around the device (because you turn off the electricity), the excited plasma has to go to state of equilibrium. Depending on different factors, that 'return back to equilibrium' emmits some 'electronic signatures'. Depending the 'electronic signature' you'll have more or less electricity in the output. Right?

In the  patents, Correa was careful and did not mention where the excess energy is from, because the word 'aether' would have resulted in the rejection of the patents. In his Labofex press releases, the mentions that the aether is responsible. His friend,physicist  Dr Harold Haspden, has written an explanation of how it works which you can find on the net. 
Correa is still around and runs the site www.aetherometry.com. There you will find many documents about the PADG device. 
Correa was trying to emulate the work of Reich, who used coaxial tubes. It is likely that Correa protected himself by showing the planar electrode system most of the time, using one as anode and the other as cathode with the middle rod to sometimes stimulate the breakdown, but actually used the central tungsten rod as the anode and used both the large plates as cathodes, or used an aluminum tube as a cathode. The coaxial system is but briefly mentioned in the patents.
In the initial patent, no mention of over unity is to be found. This got his foot in the door, the later patents mention over unity. This first patent is a crude device which is basically a dc to ac converter for motors. Its like a throwback to another century and there is no way it would have ever been manufactured.  Its amazing he got the patent, because, , there  thousands upon thousands of gas discharge patents around, dating from the 1800's.
The vortex1 site archives are here, use this initial link to get around the site and rearch for correa or pagd
https://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=correa&l=vortex-l%40eskimo.com

Other interesting site is

http://www.driftline.org/cgi-bin/archive/archive_msg.cgi?file=spoon-archives//orgonomy.archive/orgonomy_1996/96-12-13.171&msgnum=16&start=1568

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Re: Correa-Smith power from plasma
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Re: Correa-Smith power from plasma
« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2015, 03:49:48 PM »
HHmmm
we have a few members that could share here...[well.. one in particular ]
however I know that Trust is a big issue ...

we shall see ?

Some things just need to be acknowledged once and for all ,regardless of the thieves with big dreams and patent wishes !!

Chet K

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Re: Correa-Smith power from plasma
« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2015, 05:04:57 PM »
Some Chris Arnold claimed the Correas stole his invention, see here.
http://www.zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1993

Jealousy, coverups, lies; welcome to the OU circus.

In the end I think the patents need to be replicated and any abnormal readings looked at.  Looking at the net for deeper answers is futile.

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Re: Correa-Smith power from plasma
« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2015, 08:15:55 PM »
Some Chris Arnold claimed the Correas stole his invention, see here.
http://www.zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1993

Jealousy, coverups, lies; welcome to the OU circus.

In the end I think the patents need to be replicated and any abnormal readings looked at.  Looking at the net for deeper answers is futile.
I've read the link you wrote and he (Arnold) says that. It's not the first time I heard that someone have took the idea of others. I don't know if there is some truth or not, but the important thing are the results.

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Re: Correa-Smith power from plasma
« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2015, 08:25:22 PM »
In the  patents, Correa was careful and did not mention where the excess energy is from, because the word 'aether' would have resulted in the rejection of the patents. In his Labofex press releases, the mentions that the aether is responsible. His friend,physicist  Dr Harold Haspden, has written an explanation of how it works which you can find on the net. 
Correa is still around and runs the site www.aetherometry.com. There you will find many documents about the PADG device. 
Correa was trying to emulate the work of Reich, who used coaxial tubes. It is likely that Correa protected himself by showing the planar electrode system most of the time, using one as anode and the other as cathode with the middle rod to sometimes stimulate the breakdown, but actually used the central tungsten rod as the anode and used both the large plates as cathodes, or used an aluminum tube as a cathode. The coaxial system is but briefly mentioned in the patents.
In the initial patent, no mention of over unity is to be found. This got his foot in the door, the later patents mention over unity. This first patent is a crude device which is basically a dc to ac converter for motors. Its like a throwback to another century and there is no way it would have ever been manufactured.  Its amazing he got the patent, because, , there  thousands upon thousands of gas discharge patents around, dating from the 1800's.
The vortex1 site archives are here, use this initial link to get around the site and rearch for correa or pagd
https://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=correa&l=vortex-l%40eskimo.com

Other interesting site is

http://www.driftline.org/cgi-bin/archive/archive_msg.cgi?file=spoon-archives//orgonomy.archive/orgonomy_1996/96-12-13.171&msgnum=16&start=1568
I've took a look at the link you wrote. But I cannot access to Correa's website. I get a 403 error. I've tried to access for some weeks and I always get the same error to any link inside his website.
It happens to you the same?

 

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