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## Solid States Devices => solid state devices => Topic started by: Magnethos on June 16, 2015, 08:52:50 PM

Title: Extracting energy from A-Vector potential
Post by: Magnethos on June 16, 2015, 08:52:50 PM
First of all I've to say that this is only an interesting effect not made by me and the information that I will post is only with the intention of giving points of view and ideas. If you find this information eye-opening then maybe you can create your own circuit using your own ideas.

I've been watching this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDH7s3IMTtE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDH7s3IMTtE) while I was reading some information about Barbosa ground energy, Don Smith, Sweet, etc...

Well, the guy from the video has seen that it's possible to extract amperage from a microwave transformer using a close loop. The information of the video is not in english, so I will translate the information:
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Hello friends in this video I would like to show the first curious experience that I discovered when trying to replicate the Barbosa's and Leal's system and I've noticed that when putting a wire in shortcircuit in the external part of the core of a microwave oven transformer, the intensity in the input of the transformer didn't increased. The intensity without the closed coil wire is 2.27 amperes.
The intensity with the coil of wire in shortcircuit is the same 2,27 amperes.

As you can see in the video I put different conductors in shortcircuit configuration and I tried different AWG wires. No one of them increased the input amperage, even neutral or phase. The overall amperage increased to 147 amperes. I think the voltage of each conductor should be around zero volts because they're in shortcircuit, so if we calculate the voltage time amperage we will have the watts:
0 x 147 = 0 watts.
(...)

Basically the guy saw that when you put a closed wire around the MOT, you can measure amperage. When the section of the wire is bigger, more amperage is read from the wire. This property is accumulative because you can add more and more wires and increase the total amperage WITHOUT affecting the input consumption of the MOT. The next question is how is possible to use that energy to perform work and if it's possible to use that energy to perform work we have to know if it affects the input when you connect a load to the close wire. I will post different theories to try in the following posts.

As we can see in this youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-B9gZZShrbxp9YTWgRPsKw (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-B9gZZShrbxp9YTWgRPsKw)  there are some videos explaining something about the A-Vector potential. And he explains something about the magnetic field AROUND the transformer while the transformer output is in shortcircuit configuration. Chris (the name of the guy of the youtube channel) also shows some evidence about this.

The question that ask the guy from the first video (Ismael) is how we can extract energy from that shortcircuited external wire. That remembers me to Tesla's hairpin circuit where there was also a shortcircuit and it was possible to extract useful energy from it.

I will be updating this post to include more information.
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Title: Re: Extracting energy from A-Vector potential
Post by: Magnethos on June 16, 2015, 09:14:13 PM
The possible ways for trying to get some energy from the closed loop wire are these:

1) Bucking coils
Maybe they can be used around the closed wired to induce electrical energy.

2) Ground connection
As Barbosa, maybe a load can be powered using the positive from the closed wire and the other part from the ground. Other configurations can also be tried.

3) AV plug

4) Michael Banks single wire

5) Joshua's special capacitor

6) Pulsed Back EMF

7) Cook's coils

8. Ingeners99 single to dual wire inverter
Title: Re: Extracting energy from A-Vector potential
Post by: Dave45 on June 17, 2015, 09:10:44 PM
Thanks for the heads up
very interesting
Title: Re: Extracting energy from A-Vector potential
Post by: ATOM1 on June 17, 2015, 10:42:28 PM
Coherence of a particle stream can indicate the presence of extra amps, all that may be happing is some electrons start to mimic what other electrons are doing ! But the mass of electrons under the crest of the wave are not there ..... Never rely on a metre or an OS you need to do indirect measurements like lifting weights ect ...

Even if the bank of lights is throwing out photons you can not determine the current by that alone as frequency alone can produce photons .... Not to say that that in it self is worthless because it does serve an important use.

But energy must come from somewhere and have a way to release itself ! There are harmonic boundaries in space and time some call it the zero point field others may see it as radiant energy trapped in a vacuum but to measure it as an electron field would be a mistake.

AMPS = MASS 1 coulomb of electrons is 1 AMP 1 farad at 1 v = 1 watt ! IT CAN NEVER = ANYTHING EALSE ! so maybe there is another particle field active in the results ???? Don't rule out energy coming up from the plank level dark energy or spontaneous emission entering the unit of force from an unknown elementary position ... But it can never ever be electrons !

ATOM1

Title: Re: Extracting energy from A-Vector potential
Post by: Dave45 on June 17, 2015, 10:51:20 PM
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But it can never ever be electrons !

But according to Barboso and Leal it can be used to attract electrons.

Current as measured with an amp meter is not electrons.

Current does not come from the battery.

Current is a product of electron flow.

Title: Re: Extracting energy from A-Vector potential
Post by: Magnethos on June 18, 2015, 12:00:10 AM
Hi again,
After watching an old video from ingener99, I've came with an idea. The idea is a possible answer about the closed loop wire around the microwave oven transformer and the doubt about extracting energy from it. How we can extract energy from a closed loop wire that only contains amperage?

Well, look at the picture to see what I mean.

Basically the idea is to use a Rogowski coil to extract useful energy from the closed loop, instead of using an ordinary coil winding around the core of the closed wire loop.

http://www.electronicproducts.com/images2/fapo_TI_SmartGrid03_jul2011.gif (http://www.electronicproducts.com/images2/fapo_TI_SmartGrid03_jul2011.gif)
Title: Re: Extracting energy from A-Vector potential
Post by: ATOM1 on June 18, 2015, 12:57:38 AM
The ambient ????? Do you mean the natural harmonic of the mass ??? A high state of frequency as a dielectric constant which jumps down to a lower frequency to produce photons ????? It would be a 5th note along the harmonic scale ! On a piano you hold down the 5th note of the scale and play the first note of the scale and the 5th note will vibrate without playing it .........................................

Have you tried this ambient and did the light switch on ???????????????????????

ATOM1
Title: Re: Extracting energy from A-Vector potential
Post by: Dave45 on June 18, 2015, 03:34:58 AM
Hi again,
After watching an old video from ingener99, I've came with an idea. The idea is a possible answer about the closed loop wire around the microwave oven transformer and the doubt about extracting energy from it. How we can extract energy from a closed loop wire that only contains amperage?

Well, look at the picture to see what I mean.

Basically the idea is to use a Rogowski coil to extract useful energy from the closed loop, instead of using an ordinary coil winding around the core of the closed wire loop.

http://www.electronicproducts.com/images2/fapo_TI_SmartGrid03_jul2011.gif (http://www.electronicproducts.com/images2/fapo_TI_SmartGrid03_jul2011.gif)
Another way is to run the large shorted wire through a wire wound toroid and pull energy that way.
Mr. Moroz made use of this configuration.
Title: Re: Extracting energy from A-Vector potential
Post by: Magnethos on June 18, 2015, 10:36:33 AM
Another way is to run the large shorted wire through a wire wound toroid and pull energy that way.
Mr. Moroz made use of this configuration.
As I see Igor is also using Rogowsky coils and Bucking coils.
I noticed that a Rogowski coil can be used in 2 ways:
1 - Wired around the toroid
2- Wired in a specific point of the toroid like ingener99

The key part is to know if in the tests I suggest the output affects the input (reflectance). It's the main question to answer.

Thanks for the video!!
Title: Re: Extracting energy from A-Vector potential
Post by: Magnethos on June 18, 2015, 02:30:14 PM
Here you've the two ways of winding a rogowski coil-like wire in a closed loop (toroid core, closed loop wire...).
Title: Re: Extracting energy from A-Vector potential
Post by: synchro1 on June 19, 2015, 12:19:18 AM
Here you've the two ways of winding a rogowski coil-like wire in a closed loop (toroid core, closed loop wire...).

The "Siamese" toroids of the Quadra "A" vector project producing an anti gravity effect below: The coils move upwards when charged.
Title: Re: Extracting energy from A-Vector potential
Post by: Magnethos on June 19, 2015, 10:52:35 AM
The "Siamese" toroids of the Quadra "A" vector project producing an anti gravity effect below: The coils move upwards when charged.
I've been searching on Google about "siamese toroids" and I've only seen 2 results. Can you say me where have you got that picture?

EDIT: I've found the info. Thanks anyway.
Title: Re: Extracting energy from A-Vector potential
Post by: Magnethos on June 19, 2015, 11:15:17 AM
The "Siamese" toroids of the Quadra "A" vector project producing an anti gravity effect below: The coils move upwards when charged.

That experiment is similar to Boyd Bushman coil. Bushman said one time that it was based on a 'second generation' Lenz Law.
Title: Re: Extracting energy from A-Vector potential
Post by: sm0ky2 on June 19, 2015, 12:22:29 PM
V(t) = L dI/dt

Where:
t = time
V = Voltage
I = Amps (current)
L = Inductance (Henry's)

On one side of the transformer, you have a low voltage, higher current
on the other side you have a low current, higher voltage
Power through the transformer remains the same, over time.

If you pull current from the closed loop, you change the Inductance.
Title: Re: Extracting energy from A-Vector potential
Post by: sm0ky2 on June 19, 2015, 12:26:36 PM
The "Siamese" toroids of the Quadra "A" vector project producing an anti gravity effect below: The coils move upwards when charged.

That is not "anti-gravity", it is electromagnetic repulsion.
like the mag-lev trains
Its' no different than placing two magnets together in repulsion.

if an A/C signal is used, you can control the amplitude of the repulsive effect by bringing the two signals into and out of phase with each other.
Or varying the frequenies between harmonic and disruptive combinations.
Title: Re: Extracting energy from A-Vector potential
Post by: Magnethos on June 19, 2015, 02:08:08 PM
V(t) = L dI/dt

Where:
t = time
V = Voltage
I = Amps (current)
L = Inductance (Henry's)

On one side of the transformer, you have a low voltage, higher current
on the other side you have a low current, higher voltage
Power through the transformer remains the same, over time.

If you pull current from the closed loop, you change the Inductance.
The main question is how to extract energy from the closed loop wire and check how it affects to the consumption in the transformer. The theories are ok but the last answer will be found measuring the parameters.
Title: Re: Extracting energy from A-Vector potential
Post by: forest on June 19, 2015, 02:19:36 PM
V(t) = L dI/dt

Where:
t = time
V = Voltage
I = Amps (current)
L = Inductance (Henry's)

On one side of the transformer, you have a low voltage, higher current
on the other side you have a low current, higher voltage
Power through the transformer remains the same, over time.

If you pull current from the closed loop, you change the Inductance.

The last statement is simplified. Can you elaborate in detail , how it is done ? Let say we have quite long output wires so the load is far from the transformer....
Title: Re: Extracting energy from A-Vector potential
Post by: synchro1 on June 19, 2015, 03:42:54 PM
I've been searching on Google about "siamese toroids" and I've only seen 2 results. Can you say me where have you got that picture?

EDIT: I've found the info. Thanks anyway.

http://www.electrogravity.com/TELOSTESTS/vectorpot1.htm
Title: Re: Extracting energy from A-Vector potential
Post by: Dave45 on June 19, 2015, 10:14:17 PM
That is not "anti-gravity", it is electromagnetic repulsion.
like the mag-lev trains
Its' no different than placing two magnets together in repulsion.

if an A/C signal is used, you can control the amplitude of the repulsive effect by bringing the two signals into and out of phase with each other.
Or varying the frequenies between harmonic and disruptive combinations.

The coils would have to push against each other or a metal for there to be magnetic repulsion.
This may be something else  :o