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Title: 130 years old secret , your Pole transformer
Post by: clearchrome on June 12, 2015, 01:49:37 PM

Hi,


  I ve come across this Canadien made video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYkd-CVrX8E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYkd-CVrX8E)


The guy in the video called Gerard Morin is stating that your standard pole transformers is wired in a way that it creates free energy on its own.
 
The power utility only provides 10% of the energy while the transformer will gather 90% of its cold energy (radiant)
from the environment heat. Will amplify the energy.


It look very promising and real.


He says that a Tesla secret patent that has been hidden to us for over 130 years ....and the fact thats its been on plain site in front of our faces ... it makes it less likely for us to see it has a secret.


He showed us an simple experiment to prove that cold energy is created.


Personally I really want to beleive him, but I need numbers .... specially when he uses heating unit as a load.
But he says radiant energy can t be measured with a meter...

In my opinion, testing a Heating Radiator is the worse load you can put because there is no way to tell how much power is going inside the unit without using a meter. He did not even provide the precice voltage input ...all based on suppositions.
The elements inside the radiator can be burned out and we would not even know.


I really beleive that cold energy is created because he proves that there is a significant temperature drop.


What do you think? Do you beleive this guy, i need your opinion.[/size]












Title: Re: 130 years old secret , your Pole transformer
Post by: clearchrome on June 12, 2015, 02:06:21 PM
To prove him right, I would need someone with a thermal camera at night and record a pole power transformer to see if the temperature drop can be seen.
It would have to be a dual transformer setup on the same pole as in its experiment.

There is a compagny called FLIR ONE that sells a camera for iPhone that work very well , long range...see link below
http://www.flir.com/flirone/ (http://www.flir.com/flirone/), its only in the 200-300$ price range and only works with iphone 5.


That would be a nice starting point for investigating his claim.
Title: Re: 130 years old secret , your Pole transformer
Post by: tinman on June 12, 2015, 02:52:22 PM
This dead horse has already been flogged.
Please place in garbage bin.
Title: Re: 130 years old secret , your Pole transformer
Post by: FatBird on June 12, 2015, 03:14:06 PM
@ ClearChrome

Personally, I have watched Morin's video & I DO BELIEVE it is HONEST Working Overunity.

However, there are certain Trolls here that BELITTLE videos like that, so you will see a LOT
of negative comments about it.  The bottom line is that you need to judge for yourself if it
is true & NOT believe the NEGATIVE Trolls.  Most of the Trolls here wouldn't recognize
Overunity if it bit them in the rear.  LOL
                                                                                                                                                               .
Title: Re: 130 years old secret , your Pole transformer
Post by: pomodoro on June 12, 2015, 03:33:08 PM
Please don't waste money or time on this dickhead. Although a small group of followers on another forum have tried hard to replicate his pole transformer experiment, with no success, he is not helping them out , but keeps rambling on the thread about some new project of his. I doubt he is a fake, he is just a mad freak  after some attention and wasting our time.
Title: Re: 130 years old secret , your Pole transformer
Post by: tinman on June 12, 2015, 03:49:51 PM
@ ClearChrome

Personally, I have watched Morin's video & I DO BELIEVE it is HONEST Working Overunity.

However, there are certain Trolls here that BELITTLE videos like that, so you will see a LOT
of negative comments about it.  The bottom line is that you need to judge for yourself if it
is true & NOT believe the NEGATIVE Trolls.  Most of the Trolls here wouldn't recognize
Overunity if it bit them in the rear.  LOL
                                                                                                                                                               .
Oh wouldnt we.

I just have to quote this from a fellow researcher, as it is so accurate it is almost unbelievable.

INT: DAY: FADE IN....

A: I have an overunity machine in my garage!
B: Oh yeah, that's great. Let's see it working!
A: You're a stupid idiot for not believing me!
B: I just want you to provide evidence for your claim, that's all.
A: What a troll! Why don't you stick your head back in the sand, or some other dark place!
B: So why don't you just refute me by showing your evidence?
A: Who's paying you to suppress me, the CIA or the NSA?
B: Where are your measurements?
A: Go Away! You should be banned for your negativity!
B: I just want to see some evidence for your claim.
A: You're nothing but an agent of suppression, and too stupid to understand that I'm the Free Energy Messiah!
B: (shrugs shoulders and walks away)

FADE TO BLACK....

Guys like you Fatbird are so predictable lol.

I have made troll status,and am now awaiting my pay cheque from the NSA-!!AND!! the CIA.
Shouldnt be long now.
Title: Re: 130 years old secret , your Pole transformer
Post by: MarkE on June 12, 2015, 04:39:00 PM
@ ClearChrome

Personally, I have watched Morin's video & I DO BELIEVE it is HONEST Working Overunity.

However, there are certain Trolls here that BELITTLE videos like that, so you will see a LOT
of negative comments about it.  The bottom line is that you need to judge for yourself if it
is true & NOT believe the NEGATIVE Trolls.  Most of the Trolls here wouldn't recognize
Overunity if it bit them in the rear.  LOL
                                                                                                                                                               .
How about you put forward your best argument for why you think Morin's experiments hold any promise of delivering what he claims?
Title: Re: 130 years old secret , your Pole transformer
Post by: MarkE on June 12, 2015, 04:40:53 PM
Oh wouldnt we.

I just have to quote this from a fellow researcher, as it is so accurate it is almost unbelievable.

INT: DAY: FADE IN....

A: I have an overunity machine in my garage!
B: Oh yeah, that's great. Let's see it working!
A: You're a stupid idiot for not believing me!
B: I just want you to provide evidence for your claim, that's all.
A: What a troll! Why don't you stick your head back in the sand, or some other dark place!
B: So why don't you just refute me by showing your evidence?
A: Who's paying you to suppress me, the CIA or the NSA?
B: Where are your measurements?
A: Go Away! You should be banned for your negativity!
B: I just want to see some evidence for your claim.
A: You're nothing but an agent of suppression, and too stupid to understand that I'm the Free Energy Messiah!
B: (shrugs shoulders and walks away)

FADE TO BLACK....

Guys like you Fatbird are so predictable lol.

I have made troll status,and am now awaiting my pay cheque from the NSA-!!AND!! the CIA.
Shouldnt be long now.
Don't forget the: wine, women, and song! 
Title: Re: 130 years old secret , your Pole transformer
Post by: clearchrome on June 12, 2015, 06:25:39 PM
@ ClearChrome

Personally, I have watched Morin's video & I DO BELIEVE it is HONEST Working Overunity.

However, there are certain Trolls here that BELITTLE videos like that, so you will see a LOT
of negative comments about it.  The bottom line is that you need to judge for yourself if it
is true & NOT believe the NEGATIVE Trolls.  Most of the Trolls here wouldn't recognize
Overunity if it bit them in the rear.  LOL
                                                                                                                                                               .


I agree with you but I always try to stay neutral in my analysis, never get to the conclusion without checking myself.


I ve seen a guy on youtube replicate the same setup without success and also Ive seen random thermal images on goggle images that dont corrolate..


So , or people are trying to hide the secret or its a false claim...


A small setup would do the trick im my opinion
Title: Re: 130 years old secret , your Pole transformer
Post by: clearchrome on June 12, 2015, 06:28:41 PM
Please don't waste money or time on this dickhead. Although a small group of followers on another forum have tried hard to replicate his pole transformer experiment, with no success, he is not helping them out , but keeps rambling on the thread about some new project of his. I doubt he is a fake, he is just a mad freak  after some attention and wasting our time.


So your conclusion is that its a big hoaks for him to attrack attention!?


is there a specific point that would prove that?

Title: Re: 130 years old secret , your Pole transformer
Post by: clearchrome on June 12, 2015, 06:32:22 PM
Oh wouldnt we.

I just have to quote this from a fellow researcher, as it is so accurate it is almost unbelievable.

INT: DAY: FADE IN....

A: I have an overunity machine in my garage!
B: Oh yeah, that's great. Let's see it working!
A: You're a stupid idiot for not believing me!
B: I just want you to provide evidence for your claim, that's all.
A: What a troll! Why don't you stick your head back in the sand, or some other dark place!
B: So why don't you just refute me by showing your evidence?
A: Who's paying you to suppress me, the CIA or the NSA?
B: Where are your measurements?
A: Go Away! You should be banned for your negativity!
B: I just want to see some evidence for your claim.
A: You're nothing but an agent of suppression, and too stupid to understand that I'm the Free Energy Messiah!
B: (shrugs shoulders and walks away)

FADE TO BLACK....

Guys like you Fatbird are so predictable lol.

I have made troll status,and am now awaiting my pay cheque from the NSA-!!AND!! the CIA.
Shouldnt be long now.


So if I understand correctly, your conclusion is based on the profiling of personality of the person and not taking the time to prove the claim or the technology itself as it would be a waste of time and money...
Title: Re: 130 years old secret , your Pole transformer
Post by: clearchrome on June 12, 2015, 06:48:12 PM
How about you put forward your best argument for why you think Morin's experiments hold any promise of delivering what he claims?


A sudden drop of temperature is a good indication of energy beeing sucked in as an Endothermic reaction.


I dont think he has rigged his Thermal laser sensor because its pretty complex to do .... equations are based on doppler effect of light ... and its all hardcoded on a chip hardware[/size].   Or works or it doesnt.

Thats why I need someone to confirm this temp drop with a a pole transformer near youre houses ... they are everywhere!


A Thermal laser sensor is 60$ at canadien tire ....worse case , bring it back o the store you bought it,  you got 30 days!

I did the test myself and Morin is Right ...Im seeing a temperature drop from ambiant temperature. It varies a lot according to the current consumption of the day but the point is that I see a temperature drop. Thats why im curious to see if its only the ones located near my house. Used the same spot he did in his video.


Im thinking that not every transformers has this capability.... only specific ones...im in a rural area.[/size]


My next step is to go to the city center and check it out. I dont want to be spotted doing that. At night maybe.













Title: Re: 130 years old secret , your Pole transformer
Post by: MarkE on June 12, 2015, 07:42:12 PM

A sudden drop of temperature is a good indication of energy beeing sucked in as an Endothermic reaction.


I dont think he has rigged his Thermal laser sensor because its pretty complex to do .... equations are based on doppler effect of light ... and its all hardcoded on a chip hardware[/size].   Or works or it doesnt.
But no such drop has actually been shown.  Morin has demonstrated that his instruments are fouled by the large amounts of EMI his set-up generates.
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Thats why I need someone to confirm this temp drop with a a pole transformer near youre houses ... they are everywhere!
Pole transformers get warm.  The greater the load, the more they heat up.
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A Thermal laser sensor is 60$ at canadien tire ....worse case , bring it back o the store you bought it,  you got 30 days!
And they work fine when used properly.
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I did the test myself and Morin is Right ...Im seeing a temperature drop from ambiant temperature. It varies a lot according to the current consumption of the day but the point is that I see a temperature drop. Thats why im curious to see if its only the ones located near my house. Used the same spot he did in his video.
What have you done to insure that you are using your temperature sensor correctly?  A good test is to affix a reliable sensor like a thermocouple by appropriately shielded wiring to a known good thermocouple signal conditioner.
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Im thinking that not every transformers has this capability.... only specific ones...im in a rural area.[/size]


My next step is to go to the city center and check it out. I dont want to be spotted doing that. At night maybe.
If what you are doing is pointing an IR thermal sensor at distant objects, then you have a calibration issue to overcome.  You are stuck assuming the emissivity of the target.  GIGO.
Title: Re: 130 years old secret , your Pole transformer
Post by: mscoffman on June 12, 2015, 07:43:31 PM
Please checkout www.energeticforum.com, I felt that even if experiment didn't work, it seemed
to require a careful checkout
that it might work. Unfortunately the people running the project there do not understand what the scientific basis of
experimentation is and it remains unclear as to exactly what has been tested and what hasn't. Morin, of course
has gone on to produce a number of new claims, none significantly substantiated.


You might want spend your time looking at the Babcock & Leal experiment instead, though different operating
principles, seems validated.
Title: Re: 130 years old secret , your Pole transformer
Post by: clearchrome on June 12, 2015, 08:38:09 PM
But no such drop has actually been shown.  Morin has demonstrated that his instruments are fouled by the large amounts of EMI his set-up generates.Pole transformers get warm.  The greater the load, the more they heat up.And they work fine when used properly.What have you done to insure that you are using your temperature sensor correctly?  A good test is to affix a reliable sensor like a thermocouple by appropriately shielded wiring to a known good thermocouple signal conditioner.If what you are doing is pointing an IR thermal sensor at distant objects, then you have a calibration issue to overcome.  You are stuck assuming the emissivity of the target.  GIGO.


I checked that my good temperature reference (my own body heat ) as a calibration unit is still giving the same results inside and outside the EMI field or measuring location while doing my readings.  [/size]


I don't think a laser beam can be affected by EMI emmisions either ...

I'm using a good distance for my measurement as it's too Hazard beeing too close.  So the distance is basically the Pytagore of  Transformer's height from pole - 6 feet (my arm height is up over my head) to 1 feet away from the post.  It would be good to calculate if the (average)  EMI radiation @ 60Hz are still strong enouph as to affect my device readings at this distance.  I don't have an EMI reader :(  , but in my opinion , the EMI is way to low to affect my results.


But lets say I agree that there is a possibility of the thermal laser sensor hardware to be affected by the EMI radiations.
Then If I go back to what I initially stated, I would best to be using thermal imaging device (suck as they do to detect power outage )  as it can probe at a father distance and it also give you a spread of results that can be logically corroborated by calculating the heat dissipation of air. The purpose beeing that EMI would be less effecting the measurements and it could also be compared with my other results from the Laser, would that be acceptable?.



Title: Re: 130 years old secret , your Pole transformer
Post by: clearchrome on June 12, 2015, 09:10:35 PM
Pole transformers get warm.  The greater the load, the more they heat up.[/size]

I agree in most cases, specially for the single transfo. setup ...(the ones that blows up the most, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRNI_uf4rcA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRNI_uf4rcA) because they tend to overheat fast )
Maybe its me but I noticed that the double transfo setup is in most case hidden from public view.









Title: Re: 130 years old secret , your Pole transformer
Post by: TinselKoala on June 12, 2015, 10:57:48 PM
The laser in "laser thermometers" has nothing to do with measuring the temperature. It is only a "locator" to show the operator where the actual IR sensor in the unit is pointed. Since the laser emanates from an opening that is displaced from the opening of the IR sensor, the laser is only accurately indicating the location of the measured point at one specific range, usually quite close to the instrument (8 to 16 inches or so). Furthermore, the Canadian Tire unit has a "distance to spot ratio" of 8:1, which means that if you are 8 inches away from your target, the spot being measured is 1 inch in diameter. If you are, say, 30 feet away from your target, not only will the laser dot be completely away from the actual measured area, the measured "spot" will be nearly 4 feet in diameter. 

http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/mastercraft-digital-temperature-reader-0574554p.html

Point one of these things at a pole pig "in the wild" and you will be "measuring" your sky. Use one within its proper accuracy range to measure a terminal at 15 kV potential and you are risking your life by standing too close. Some units are more or less susceptible to RF EMI; the one Morin uses is unduly sensitive to interference as is clearly shown in several of his videos. He should have bought the Princess Tire model, they are better shielded.
Title: Re: 130 years old secret , your Pole transformer
Post by: pomodoro on June 13, 2015, 12:23:47 PM

So your conclusion is that its a big hoaks for him to attrack attention!?


is there a specific point that would prove that?
Have you ever met mad people? Most are quite normal , but they fabricate lies readily. From experience , I can tell you this guy is a fruitcake. Its that simple.  He's only discovery had been how to get the attention he so desperately craves by making up all of this crap.  Give the guy no more attention and he is likely to harm himself. Its harsh, but welcome to the real world.
Title: Re: 130 years old secret , your Pole transformer
Post by: ATOM1 on June 14, 2015, 02:25:20 AM
                                                           
                                                           I HAVE A RADIENT ENERGY TRANSFORMER !

There are many ways to cook up this energy sometimes its a hit and miss game depending where you live ! But I just want to point out that in the very early days of variable transforms the cores were made with iron that was not coated to prevent rust and there are 4 types of rust black brown red pink. Pink rust is most reactive to 02 and used in making very strong ferrite magnets in china,  to keep a very simple view of this is important for now so excuse the I am just a simple man routine...

I have a very old 2amp 275 v rated one but it sets up a 330v charge and if its at one metre off the ground when you switch it on and turn it off with the out put leads one inch off the ground than short them out it blows the 10 amp fuse in the plug and that's when its switched off....

To my utter amazement I connected one of the wires to a small 500 watt uni motor with neo magnets around it, it also had a aluminium head which tends to make a difference on the other side of the motor the remaining lead wire was put on a aluminium disc with plastic sheet on one side. When the final connection was made the mad little motor started up with some rather strange blue lights flashing an inch away from the brushes in the motor... I pulled the plug out of the socket which was already switched off! 

But like a total idiot I reached over and  grabbed the motor as its about to fall off the table , It was like getting hit by a train and nearly killed me .....


This was only the beginning of the adventure with this transformer as what I did next is just far to magical for my lips to shed light of such a reality .... Since than I found the first recorded data for such energy way back to the late 17th century !

What tesla found is the same thing there really is very little to it and the higher the trans former is the more the power output ......... But its a deadly currant and I don't think its normal electricity or a static field energy ! To me its coming up from the plank level and has a frequency in the trillions of HZ...

Atom 1                                                 






 

 


   
Title: Re: 130 years old secret , your Pole transformer
Post by: FatBird on June 14, 2015, 03:51:26 AM
@ Atom

Please post a diagram or sketch showing how you hooked it up.

Thanks.
                                                                                                       .
Title: Re: 130 years old secret , your Pole transformer
Post by: ATOM1 on June 14, 2015, 04:46:30 AM
There is nothing to it its the right hand rule ! Paint the picture in your mind !   The transformer sits on the table its plugged in the out put wires are 1 inch off the floor turn off the transformer and pull out the plug leaving one out put wire close to the floor The other connects to the motor than through the motor coils out the other side and onto a flat aluminium plastic coated  plate .. That's it and the motor just turns back on ....

But the trans former must have a rusted core or it wont hold a charge ????? You may find some old ones if your lucky but so far I got it working with a 2 amp 500 watt transformer ... My grid power is just over the 240 around 249v as I am close to the street transformer I get a little higher voltage.......

Also red oxide is banned from MUF IN THE UK and in many other EU countries but not in china If we could find someone who would make them its would be cool worth some good money but they are dangerous ..

An old energy system and a well known one but almost forgotten and I am sure not truly explored it will do many strange things and is thought that ghosts tap it to stay alive ....

ATOM1



 




 
Title: Re: 130 years old secret , your Pole transformer
Post by: clearchrome on June 14, 2015, 08:30:14 PM
The laser in "laser thermometers" has nothing to do with measuring the temperature. It is only a "locator" to show the operator where the actual IR sensor in the unit is pointed. Since the laser emanates from an opening that is displaced from the opening of the IR sensor, the laser is only accurately indicating the location of the measured point at one specific range, usually quite close to the instrument (8 to 16 inches or so). Furthermore, the Canadian Tire unit has a "distance to spot ratio" of 8:1, which means that if you are 8 inches away from your target, the spot being measured is 1 inch in diameter. If you are, say, 30 feet away from your target, not only will the laser dot be completely away from the actual measured area, the measured "spot" will be nearly 4 feet in diameter. 

http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/mastercraft-digital-temperature-reader-0574554p.html

Point one of these things at a pole pig "in the wild" and you will be "measuring" your sky. Use one within its proper accuracy range to measure a terminal at 15 kV potential and you are risking your life by standing too close. Some units are more or less susceptible to RF EMI; the one Morin uses is unduly sensitive to interference as is clearly shown in several of his videos. He should have bought the Princess Tire model, they are better shielded.

Got a good point on that...give you the credit... how about the thermal imaging solution? Would you agree to be a good test?
Title: Re: 130 years old secret , your Pole transformer
Post by: ATOM1 on June 14, 2015, 09:00:33 PM
You need oxides for radiant energy ! The transformer that this man is standing next to is old ! And its core has probable rusted making it  reactive to all elements including alpha particles ect ect ....... That is all it is !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go back 130 years and make a transformer what iron are you using ???? Make a simple transformer with iron that rusts pink you will find what your looking for.....

ATOM1
Title: Re: 130 years old secret , your Pole transformer
Post by: MadMack on June 19, 2015, 08:49:51 PM
ATOM1,

Manganese oxide / iron oxide super cap?

Mack
Title: Re: 130 years old secret , your Pole transformer
Post by: ATOM1 on June 20, 2015, 12:26:19 AM
I like the upper cap idea but nop you just need a basic varyac  AC voltage regulating transformer ! With a reactive core for radiant energy conversion to real power ... I have some old 1930 ones there cores are rusting hahah And that helps to trap a field stable flux on the coil when the lout put lead are of the ground at 1 metre .... SWITH IT ON THAN OFF ! Than pull the plug out touch the out put leads together and if its sparks you got a free radiant energy transformer ...

One out put lead need to go to earth the other through the load to a cap plat with one side coated with plastic best with a pate that has a high voltage applied thin sheet to it as they do when they rap it be for it goes to a manufacture... The hard part is making your own transformer ... In this simple set up the transformer is the dump coil for radiant energy ... The higher you lift the coil off the ground the more power it makes and if you increase the reactive core with isotopes the amps goes up .... probable many types of particles hit the transformer alpha particles and ions ect ect ...............................

Extremely high frequencies and voltage created but you can drop all that but be very carful work it out at a small load 1 metre off the ground ...

ATOM1