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Author Topic: 130 years old secret , your Pole transformer  (Read 8569 times)

Offline clearchrome

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130 years old secret , your Pole transformer
« on: June 12, 2015, 01:49:37 PM »

Hi,


  I ve come across this Canadien made video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYkd-CVrX8E


The guy in the video called Gerard Morin is stating that your standard pole transformers is wired in a way that it creates free energy on its own.
 
The power utility only provides 10% of the energy while the transformer will gather 90% of its cold energy (radiant)
from the environment heat. Will amplify the energy.


It look very promising and real.


He says that a Tesla secret patent that has been hidden to us for over 130 years ....and the fact thats its been on plain site in front of our faces ... it makes it less likely for us to see it has a secret.


He showed us an simple experiment to prove that cold energy is created.


Personally I really want to beleive him, but I need numbers .... specially when he uses heating unit as a load.
But he says radiant energy can t be measured with a meter...

In my opinion, testing a Heating Radiator is the worse load you can put because there is no way to tell how much power is going inside the unit without using a meter. He did not even provide the precice voltage input ...all based on suppositions.
The elements inside the radiator can be burned out and we would not even know.


I really beleive that cold energy is created because he proves that there is a significant temperature drop.


What do you think? Do you beleive this guy, i need your opinion.[/size]













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Offline clearchrome

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Re: 130 years old secret , your Pole transformer
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2015, 02:06:21 PM »
To prove him right, I would need someone with a thermal camera at night and record a pole power transformer to see if the temperature drop can be seen.
It would have to be a dual transformer setup on the same pole as in its experiment.

There is a compagny called FLIR ONE that sells a camera for iPhone that work very well , long range...see link below
http://www.flir.com/flirone/, its only in the 200-300$ price range and only works with iphone 5.


That would be a nice starting point for investigating his claim.
« Last Edit: June 12, 2015, 06:50:12 PM by clearchrome »

Offline tinman

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Re: 130 years old secret , your Pole transformer
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2015, 02:52:22 PM »
This dead horse has already been flogged.
Please place in garbage bin.

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Re: 130 years old secret , your Pole transformer
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2015, 02:52:22 PM »
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Offline FatBird

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Re: 130 years old secret , your Pole transformer
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2015, 03:14:06 PM »
@ ClearChrome

Personally, I have watched Morin's video & I DO BELIEVE it is HONEST Working Overunity.

However, there are certain Trolls here that BELITTLE videos like that, so you will see a LOT
of negative comments about it.  The bottom line is that you need to judge for yourself if it
is true & NOT believe the NEGATIVE Trolls.  Most of the Trolls here wouldn't recognize
Overunity if it bit them in the rear.  LOL
                                                                                                                                                               .

Offline pomodoro

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Re: 130 years old secret , your Pole transformer
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2015, 03:33:08 PM »
Please don't waste money or time on this dickhead. Although a small group of followers on another forum have tried hard to replicate his pole transformer experiment, with no success, he is not helping them out , but keeps rambling on the thread about some new project of his. I doubt he is a fake, he is just a mad freak  after some attention and wasting our time.

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Re: 130 years old secret , your Pole transformer
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Offline tinman

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Re: 130 years old secret , your Pole transformer
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2015, 03:49:51 PM »
@ ClearChrome

Personally, I have watched Morin's video & I DO BELIEVE it is HONEST Working Overunity.

However, there are certain Trolls here that BELITTLE videos like that, so you will see a LOT
of negative comments about it.  The bottom line is that you need to judge for yourself if it
is true & NOT believe the NEGATIVE Trolls. Most of the Trolls here wouldn't recognize
Overunity if it bit them in the rear.
  LOL
                                                                                                                                                               .
Oh wouldnt we.

I just have to quote this from a fellow researcher, as it is so accurate it is almost unbelievable.

INT: DAY: FADE IN....

A: I have an overunity machine in my garage!
B: Oh yeah, that's great. Let's see it working!
A: You're a stupid idiot for not believing me!
B: I just want you to provide evidence for your claim, that's all.
A: What a troll! Why don't you stick your head back in the sand, or some other dark place!
B: So why don't you just refute me by showing your evidence?
A: Who's paying you to suppress me, the CIA or the NSA?
B: Where are your measurements?
A: Go Away! You should be banned for your negativity!
B: I just want to see some evidence for your claim.
A: You're nothing but an agent of suppression, and too stupid to understand that I'm the Free Energy Messiah!
B: (shrugs shoulders and walks away)

FADE TO BLACK....

Guys like you Fatbird are so predictable lol.

I have made troll status,and am now awaiting my pay cheque from the NSA-!!AND!! the CIA.
Shouldnt be long now.

Offline MarkE

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Re: 130 years old secret , your Pole transformer
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2015, 04:39:00 PM »
@ ClearChrome

Personally, I have watched Morin's video & I DO BELIEVE it is HONEST Working Overunity.

However, there are certain Trolls here that BELITTLE videos like that, so you will see a LOT
of negative comments about it.  The bottom line is that you need to judge for yourself if it
is true & NOT believe the NEGATIVE Trolls.  Most of the Trolls here wouldn't recognize
Overunity if it bit them in the rear.  LOL
                                                                                                                                                               .
How about you put forward your best argument for why you think Morin's experiments hold any promise of delivering what he claims?

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Re: 130 years old secret , your Pole transformer
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2015, 04:39:00 PM »
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Offline MarkE

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Re: 130 years old secret , your Pole transformer
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2015, 04:40:53 PM »
Oh wouldnt we.

I just have to quote this from a fellow researcher, as it is so accurate it is almost unbelievable.

INT: DAY: FADE IN....

A: I have an overunity machine in my garage!
B: Oh yeah, that's great. Let's see it working!
A: You're a stupid idiot for not believing me!
B: I just want you to provide evidence for your claim, that's all.
A: What a troll! Why don't you stick your head back in the sand, or some other dark place!
B: So why don't you just refute me by showing your evidence?
A: Who's paying you to suppress me, the CIA or the NSA?
B: Where are your measurements?
A: Go Away! You should be banned for your negativity!
B: I just want to see some evidence for your claim.
A: You're nothing but an agent of suppression, and too stupid to understand that I'm the Free Energy Messiah!
B: (shrugs shoulders and walks away)

FADE TO BLACK....

Guys like you Fatbird are so predictable lol.

I have made troll status,and am now awaiting my pay cheque from the NSA-!!AND!! the CIA.
Shouldnt be long now.
Don't forget the: wine, women, and song! 

Offline clearchrome

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Re: 130 years old secret , your Pole transformer
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2015, 06:25:39 PM »
@ ClearChrome

Personally, I have watched Morin's video & I DO BELIEVE it is HONEST Working Overunity.

However, there are certain Trolls here that BELITTLE videos like that, so you will see a LOT
of negative comments about it.  The bottom line is that you need to judge for yourself if it
is true & NOT believe the NEGATIVE Trolls.  Most of the Trolls here wouldn't recognize
Overunity if it bit them in the rear.  LOL
                                                                                                                                                               .


I agree with you but I always try to stay neutral in my analysis, never get to the conclusion without checking myself.


I ve seen a guy on youtube replicate the same setup without success and also Ive seen random thermal images on goggle images that dont corrolate..


So , or people are trying to hide the secret or its a false claim...


A small setup would do the trick im my opinion

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Re: 130 years old secret , your Pole transformer
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2015, 06:25:39 PM »
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Offline clearchrome

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Re: 130 years old secret , your Pole transformer
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2015, 06:28:41 PM »
Please don't waste money or time on this dickhead. Although a small group of followers on another forum have tried hard to replicate his pole transformer experiment, with no success, he is not helping them out , but keeps rambling on the thread about some new project of his. I doubt he is a fake, he is just a mad freak  after some attention and wasting our time.


So your conclusion is that its a big hoaks for him to attrack attention!?


is there a specific point that would prove that?


Offline clearchrome

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Re: 130 years old secret , your Pole transformer
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2015, 06:32:22 PM »
Oh wouldnt we.

I just have to quote this from a fellow researcher, as it is so accurate it is almost unbelievable.

INT: DAY: FADE IN....

A: I have an overunity machine in my garage!
B: Oh yeah, that's great. Let's see it working!
A: You're a stupid idiot for not believing me!
B: I just want you to provide evidence for your claim, that's all.
A: What a troll! Why don't you stick your head back in the sand, or some other dark place!
B: So why don't you just refute me by showing your evidence?
A: Who's paying you to suppress me, the CIA or the NSA?
B: Where are your measurements?
A: Go Away! You should be banned for your negativity!
B: I just want to see some evidence for your claim.
A: You're nothing but an agent of suppression, and too stupid to understand that I'm the Free Energy Messiah!
B: (shrugs shoulders and walks away)

FADE TO BLACK....

Guys like you Fatbird are so predictable lol.

I have made troll status,and am now awaiting my pay cheque from the NSA-!!AND!! the CIA.
Shouldnt be long now.


So if I understand correctly, your conclusion is based on the profiling of personality of the person and not taking the time to prove the claim or the technology itself as it would be a waste of time and money...

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Re: 130 years old secret , your Pole transformer
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2015, 06:32:22 PM »
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Offline clearchrome

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Re: 130 years old secret , your Pole transformer
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2015, 06:48:12 PM »
How about you put forward your best argument for why you think Morin's experiments hold any promise of delivering what he claims?


A sudden drop of temperature is a good indication of energy beeing sucked in as an Endothermic reaction.


I dont think he has rigged his Thermal laser sensor because its pretty complex to do .... equations are based on doppler effect of light ... and its all hardcoded on a chip hardware[/size].   Or works or it doesnt.

Thats why I need someone to confirm this temp drop with a a pole transformer near youre houses ... they are everywhere!


A Thermal laser sensor is 60$ at canadien tire ....worse case , bring it back o the store you bought it,  you got 30 days!

I did the test myself and Morin is Right ...Im seeing a temperature drop from ambiant temperature. It varies a lot according to the current consumption of the day but the point is that I see a temperature drop. Thats why im curious to see if its only the ones located near my house. Used the same spot he did in his video.


Im thinking that not every transformers has this capability.... only specific ones...im in a rural area.[/size]


My next step is to go to the city center and check it out. I dont want to be spotted doing that. At night maybe.














Offline MarkE

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Re: 130 years old secret , your Pole transformer
« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2015, 07:42:12 PM »

A sudden drop of temperature is a good indication of energy beeing sucked in as an Endothermic reaction.


I dont think he has rigged his Thermal laser sensor because its pretty complex to do .... equations are based on doppler effect of light ... and its all hardcoded on a chip hardware[/size].   Or works or it doesnt.
But no such drop has actually been shown.  Morin has demonstrated that his instruments are fouled by the large amounts of EMI his set-up generates.
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Thats why I need someone to confirm this temp drop with a a pole transformer near youre houses ... they are everywhere!
Pole transformers get warm.  The greater the load, the more they heat up.
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A Thermal laser sensor is 60$ at canadien tire ....worse case , bring it back o the store you bought it,  you got 30 days!
And they work fine when used properly.
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I did the test myself and Morin is Right ...Im seeing a temperature drop from ambiant temperature. It varies a lot according to the current consumption of the day but the point is that I see a temperature drop. Thats why im curious to see if its only the ones located near my house. Used the same spot he did in his video.
What have you done to insure that you are using your temperature sensor correctly?  A good test is to affix a reliable sensor like a thermocouple by appropriately shielded wiring to a known good thermocouple signal conditioner.
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Im thinking that not every transformers has this capability.... only specific ones...im in a rural area.[/size]


My next step is to go to the city center and check it out. I dont want to be spotted doing that. At night maybe.
If what you are doing is pointing an IR thermal sensor at distant objects, then you have a calibration issue to overcome.  You are stuck assuming the emissivity of the target.  GIGO.

Offline mscoffman

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Re: 130 years old secret , your Pole transformer
« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2015, 07:43:31 PM »
Please checkout www.energeticforum.com, I felt that even if experiment didn't work, it seemed
to require a careful checkout
that it might work. Unfortunately the people running the project there do not understand what the scientific basis of
experimentation is and it remains unclear as to exactly what has been tested and what hasn't. Morin, of course
has gone on to produce a number of new claims, none significantly substantiated.


You might want spend your time looking at the Babcock & Leal experiment instead, though different operating
principles, seems validated.

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Re: 130 years old secret , your Pole transformer
« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2015, 08:38:09 PM »
But no such drop has actually been shown.  Morin has demonstrated that his instruments are fouled by the large amounts of EMI his set-up generates.Pole transformers get warm.  The greater the load, the more they heat up.And they work fine when used properly.What have you done to insure that you are using your temperature sensor correctly?  A good test is to affix a reliable sensor like a thermocouple by appropriately shielded wiring to a known good thermocouple signal conditioner.If what you are doing is pointing an IR thermal sensor at distant objects, then you have a calibration issue to overcome.  You are stuck assuming the emissivity of the target.  GIGO.


I checked that my good temperature reference (my own body heat ) as a calibration unit is still giving the same results inside and outside the EMI field or measuring location while doing my readings.  [/size]


I don't think a laser beam can be affected by EMI emmisions either ...

I'm using a good distance for my measurement as it's too Hazard beeing too close.  So the distance is basically the Pytagore of  Transformer's height from pole - 6 feet (my arm height is up over my head) to 1 feet away from the post.  It would be good to calculate if the (average)  EMI radiation @ 60Hz are still strong enouph as to affect my device readings at this distance.  I don't have an EMI reader :(  , but in my opinion , the EMI is way to low to affect my results.


But lets say I agree that there is a possibility of the thermal laser sensor hardware to be affected by the EMI radiations.
Then If I go back to what I initially stated, I would best to be using thermal imaging device (suck as they do to detect power outage )  as it can probe at a father distance and it also give you a spread of results that can be logically corroborated by calculating the heat dissipation of air. The purpose beeing that EMI would be less effecting the measurements and it could also be compared with my other results from the Laser, would that be acceptable?.




 

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