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Author Topic: REACTIVE POWER BILL$  (Read 9563 times)

Offline leonardocunha

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REACTIVE POWER BILL$
« on: August 19, 2015, 12:43:56 AM »
Hello, everyone!!
Power Companies CAN CHARGE us for using excessive REACTIVE POWER (resulted from low Power Factor devices).
https://www.npower.com/business/help-and-support/customer-information/reactive-power/
https://www.psoklahoma.com/info/news/ReactivePowerCharge.aspx

Do this mean that Bi-Toroid Transformer (by Thane Heins) and other similar OU devices will INCREASE our electric bill?
Here in Brazil, consuming excessive Reactive Power even represents penalty.
My intention on replicating BiTT (PF = zero) was for reducing my power billing, not opposite.
Reactive Power can not be measured by Wattmeter (kW), but Companies measure it by other way (kVAR).
Is there a way for overcome this? Or do I just misunderstood all those things?

Offline MarkE

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Re: REACTIVE POWER BILL$
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2015, 04:06:55 AM »
Hello, everyone!!
Power Companies CAN CHARGE us for using excessive REACTIVE POWER (resulted from low Power Factor devices).
https://www.npower.com/business/help-and-support/customer-information/reactive-power/
https://www.psoklahoma.com/info/news/ReactivePowerCharge.aspx

Do this mean that Bi-Toroid Transformer (by Thane Heins) and other similar OU devices will INCREASE our electric bill?
Here in Brazil, consuming excessive Reactive Power even represents penalty.
My intention on replicating BiTT (PF = zero) was for reducing my power billing, not opposite.
Reactive Power can not be measured by Wattmeter (kW), but Companies measure it by other way (kVAR).
Is there a way for overcome this? Or do I just misunderstood all those things?
It's a little more complicated than that.  If all you had were resistive power loads, then adding reactance would increase your bill.  However, since most homes still have devices with power factors that are less than 1.0, using compensating reactance to correct the power factor can reduce your bill.

Offline hvgo31

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Re: REACTIVE POWER BILL$
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2015, 04:53:44 AM »
Wath  about  to  use  one  big  isolation  traffo    like  ease to  find  in  the  market  old  second  hand   also   220  to   110 V have  many  in  the   junkyard    3  to  6   KVA  than  after  the  traffo  we  connect  all  our   devise  so   no  direct  (reaction  come  back  to   the  meter  or  line  )

Offline MarkE

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Re: REACTIVE POWER BILL$
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2015, 05:36:16 AM »
Wath  about  to  use  one  big  isolation  traffo    like  ease to  find  in  the  market  old  second  hand   also   220  to   110 V have  many  in  the   junkyard    3  to  6   KVA  than  after  the  traffo  we  connect  all  our   devise  so   no  direct  (reaction  come  back  to   the  meter  or  line  )
An isolation transformer does not do much to help with reactive load.  It adds some parallel inductive reactance, and parasitic losses.  It's a good way to increase your power bill by ~5%.

Offline hvgo31

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Re: REACTIVE POWER BILL$
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2015, 05:29:53 PM »
That  right   ,we  must   have  after  the  isolation  traffo  some   good   cop   of  performance   ;the  Gabriel  device  cop  8,   fly  wheel   generator   .......,    Kapanadze     and    hope   more  ,  so  we   will  over  come    the   bill   by  several  fold   any  ways 

Offline MarkE

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Re: REACTIVE POWER BILL$
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2015, 05:52:04 PM »
That  right   ,we  must   have  after  the  isolation  traffo  some   good   cop   of  performance   ;the  Gabriel  device  cop  8,   fly  wheel   generator   .......,    Kapanadze     and    hope   more  ,  so  we   will  over  come    the   bill   by  several  fold   any  ways
Each one of those will result in an increase in the power bill.

Offline leonardocunha

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Re: REACTIVE POWER BILL$
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2015, 05:35:47 PM »
It seems that TRUE overunity devices would never depend on external grid.
If it depends, maybe isn't overunity at all. Companies will always look for keeping charges.

Maybe better combo is: ReGenX Generator + Bi-Toroid Transformer
No external source.

Offline MarkE

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Re: REACTIVE POWER BILL$
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2015, 05:43:12 PM »
It seems that TRUE overunity devices would never depend on external grid.
If it depends, maybe isn't overunity at all. Companies will always look for keeping charges.

Maybe better combo is: ReGenX Generator + Bi-Toroid Transformer
No external source.
And no net energy.

Offline ATOM1

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Re: REACTIVE POWER BILL$
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2015, 10:53:00 AM »
These power companies need to be thought a lesson on free energy dont use them ! just build your own free energy home unit I use an electron propagation system connected to an advanced magnetic forward drive 3 phase generator for 3kwh . I tried to up load the technology here but Stephan the administrator wont let me show the technology here ? He only wants you to use German technology that he is connected to !

Hello Stephan !

ATOM1