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Author Topic: Confessions of khalid Sheikh Mohammed, Oklahoma City, PanAm 800 and American 587  (Read 34301 times)

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Here are three alternative explanations for three highly contrived government accounts:


In number 4, KSM admits his participation in the “Shoe Bomber operation to down two American airplanes.” Again, this seems like a credible claim.

Number 3, however, was originally posted as “REDACTED.” This was before the Internet started humming about its likely contents.

Given the placement of number 3 high among the provable acts of terror committed against Americans on American soil, I and others speculated that KSM may very well have been staking claim to one of two events.

One is the Oklahoma City bombing. As has been well enough documented, convicted conspirator Terry Nichols made multiple trips to the Philippines when KSM’s “nephew,” Ramzi Yousef, was living there. Yousef was constructing the bombs for the impending aviation attack that KSM refers to as “the Bojinka operation.”

According to a recent House report, Nichols traveled with the book, ”The Chemistry of Powder and Explosives,” and just happened to show up in Cebu City at the exact same time as master bomber Yousef.

This was November 1994, six months before the Oklahoma City bombing. Nichols changed his itinerary immediately after Yousef’s lab was busted by the Manila police in January 1995 and left the county in haste.

In “Against All Enemies,” Clinton anti-terror czar Richard Clarke has this to say about the visits of these two terrorists to the same city in the same country at the same time: “We do know that Nichols’ bombs did not work before his Philippine stay,” writes Clarke, “and were deadly when he returned.”

The second likely suspect for the redacted terror act was TWA Flight 800, the 747 blown out of the sky off the coast of Long Island on July 17, 1996, Saddam’s national liberation day.

According to two separate sources within the NSA, on the night the plane went down Yousef phoned KSM from his New York City prison and said—in their native Baluchi– “What had to be done has been done, TWA 800″.

American Airlines 587 was blamed on the pilot for kicking the tail off the aircraft with the rudder pedals. Pan Am 800 was blamed on a short circuit when multiple witnesses reported seeing missiles ascending toward the aircraft. Oklahoma was blamed on Tim McVeigh when an Arab was witnessed parking the Ryder Truck.


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David Phillip Schippers was an organized crime investigator at the Department of Justice from 1963 to 1967. In 1998 he became chief counsel to the House of Representatives leading the impeachment of President Bill Clinton.

Schippers:

"Clinton and his boys didn't want the United States to realize that  Flight 800 was a terrorist attack and that Oklahoma City was a terrorist attack because they didn't want to admit that the intelligence of the United States was totally destroyed".

Schippers went on to be quoted as saying; "If the Department of Justice had not ignored the evidence indicating direct Middle Eastern involvement in the 1995 bombing, it is entirely likely that the Twin Towers would still be standing".
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Dan Vogel, FBI Special Agent (Ret.)

"What they (The FBI) did was unconscionable".

"The Bureau needed to look into this Middle East network here in Oklahoma City".

"If they had, maybe they would have come upon the network behind the September 11 attacks".

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On February 28, of 1993, I sat at home in New Jersey watching the news coverage of the first Ryder Truck Amfo Bomb attack on the WTC. That night I drove into New York and staked the East Village out. After a few hours, an Arab woman approaced the driver side window from behind and spoke: "Don't look at me"! she said. "I know you're a cop"! "There's gonna be another attack tomorrow". I asked where? She said: "Mid Town". I said, "I need more then that". She said "The tunnel." Then she turned and hurried accross 3rd St. and vanished. I never got a good look at her.

The light of realization came to me. I knew of a section in tube number two of the Lincoln tunnel that had ruptured during construction. The leak was so large, box cars had to be lowered by crane off barges on the Hudson River to plug it. Even now, a concave indentation can be seen in the wall just over the NY line in the south wall of the middle of tube number two. Practicly every commuter has had it pointed out.

The next day, March the 1st , I took off to encounter them at 2:00 P.M. I choose that time because this is when traffic lull is the greatest. When I got to the tunnel tolls at the end of NJ S3, it looked like a scene out of one of Rod Serling's "Twilight Zone" episodes. No Toll takers were on duty in the booths, no Port Authority cops were around. Traffic was piled up in tube two, but the cars were empty. Tubes one and three are for one way traffic in and out of the City. Tube two has two lanes, with traffic both ways. I waited a few minutes and saw no cars coming. I was armed with a broken .22 caliber Crossman pellet gun. I turned into the oncoming traffic lane and guned the V6 cylinder Buick LeSabre I was driving. My hands sweat at the wheel as the speedometer approached 100 around a long blind curve. I began to notice people in the stalled cars, perhaps hundreds to my right as I blasted by full speed. I saw the fractured section approaching and slamed the breaks on screaching to a halt. There they were! I recognized Ramzi Yousef in the back seat of a stalled Rambler in an overcoat. He was pointed out to me in Brooklyn the day he first got off the plane in New York by friends. I drew a bead on him with my Crossman. There were five or six of them, disguised as Hasidic Jews, in Felt Fedoras and phony mostaches. Emud Salem, the Egyptian infiltrator was leaning over open hood of the car. He used my presence to improvise strategy, and called the attack off. I pealed out. At the New York end there were another handful of Arabs blocking traffic, who drew weapons on me. I skidded a U turn through some yellow cones, and sped back to NJ through tube number three. When I got back home, I phoned the FBI and reported the trouble.

That night Ramzi Youssef boarded a plane for Pakistan with a bogus passport.





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President Clinton nominated Louis Freeh to the FBI directorship at a Rose Garden ceremony on July 20 1993. On the same day, July 20, Clinton's Executive Counsel Vince Foster was found dead from a gun shot wound to the head in Ft. Marcy Park, McLean, Virginia. Louis Freeh investigated the Foster death, the Oklahoma City bombing and the explosion that downed Pan Am 800. All three investigations were heavily belabored by chronic eyewitnesses interpolations by F.B.I. agents. This is where the interviewing agent states what the witness said for the record not the direct testimony from the eyewitness.

Dan Vogel, FBI Special Agent (Ret.) referring to Oklahoma:

"What they (The FBI) did was unconscionable".

In September of the same year 1993, I was falsely charged with homicide attempt in Eureka California but exonerated by a Trial Jury with a verdict of "Not Guilty". The F.B.I. claimed that I was "very very dangerous" in the trial documents!

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Here are three alternative explanations for three highly contrived government accounts:


In number 4, KSM admits his participation in the “Shoe Bomber operation to down two American airplanes.” Again, this seems like a credible claim.

Number 3, however, was originally posted as “REDACTED.” This was before the Internet started humming about its likely contents.

Given the placement of number 3 high among the provable acts of terror committed against Americans on American soil, I and others speculated that KSM may very well have been staking claim to one of two events.

One is the Oklahoma City bombing. As has been well enough documented, convicted conspirator Terry Nichols made multiple trips to the Philippines when KSM’s “nephew,” Ramzi Yousef, was living there. Yousef was constructing the bombs for the impending aviation attack that KSM refers to as “the Bojinka operation.”

According to a recent House report, Nichols traveled with the book, ”The Chemistry of Powder and Explosives,” and just happened to show up in Cebu City at the exact same time as master bomber Yousef.

This was November 1994, six months before the Oklahoma City bombing. Nichols changed his itinerary immediately after Yousef’s lab was busted by the Manila police in January 1995 and left the county in haste.

In “Against All Enemies,” Clinton anti-terror czar Richard Clarke has this to say about the visits of these two terrorists to the same city in the same country at the same time: “We do know that Nichols’ bombs did not work before his Philippine stay,” writes Clarke, “and were deadly when he returned.”

The second likely suspect for the redacted terror act was TWA Flight 800, the 747 blown out of the sky off the coast of Long Island on July 17, 1996, Saddam’s national liberation day.

According to two separate sources within the NSA, on the night the plane went down Yousef phoned KSM from his New York City prison and said—in their native Baluchi– “What had to be done has been done, TWA 800″.

American Airlines 587 was blamed on the pilot for kicking the tail off the aircraft with the rudder pedals. Pan Am 800 was blamed on a short circuit when multiple witnesses reported seeing missiles ascending toward the aircraft. Oklahoma was blamed on Tim McVeigh when an Arab was witnessed parking the Ryder Truck.


As far as flight 800 goes, over 200 interviewed witnesses said they saw a light coming off the water and traveling up into the sky.  Several of those wits were pilots, some of them military pilots that flew in Vietnam and know what a missile looks like.  Several of those pilots claimed that the "missile"
changed course several times as it "locked on' to the target.  The flight that took off just prior to 800 was an Israeli flight that was supposed to have taken off when 800 did, but, delays with 800 caused a shift in the take-off order.

All boats in the sound that night were accounted for...except one that raced off of the radar at high speed moments after the established time of the explosion.  That boat has never been identified.  This is very funny as the Navy was conducting exercises out in the sound that night, doing war simulations, etc.  There was a ton of radar there yet, no one can identify this boat, or where it went?

The NTSB claimed a fuel-air explosion in the main mostly empty fuel tank caused by a spark...yet, in several tests using similar fuel tanks, they could not recreate that type of explosion no matter what they did.

The really sad/funny thing about all of this is that Clinton said, after 911, that he had wished it could have happened on his watch so he could look like the hero.  As we all now know, there were several terrorist attacks on Clinton's watch that he did not want to admit to being terrorism.

I do not normally agree with "conspiracy theories" except for JFK...but, I have read several books on 800 and all of the stuff that we later learned from advanced interrogation techniques, and it is obvious to me that we were not told the entire truth about this incident.

Where in NJ did you live?

I was born in Plainfield and moved to Hunterdon County when I was 7.

I live in Kentucky (for 30 years now)  and do not miss Joisy at all.

Bill

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As far as flight 800 goes, over 200 interviewed witnesses said they saw a light coming off the water and traveling up into the sky.  Several of those wits were pilots, some of them military pilots that flew in Vietnam and know what a missile looks like.  Several of those pilots claimed that the "missile"
changed course several times as it "locked on' to the target.  The flight that took off just prior to 800 was an Israeli flight that was supposed to have taken off when 800 did, but, delays with 800 caused a shift in the take-off order.

All boats in the sound that night were accounted for...except one that raced off of the radar at high speed moments after the established time of the explosion.  That boat has never been identified.  This is very funny as the Navy was conducting exercises out in the sound that night, doing war simulations, etc.  There was a ton of radar there yet, no one can identify this boat, or where it went?

The NTSB claimed a fuel-air explosion in the main mostly empty fuel tank caused by a spark...yet, in several tests using similar fuel tanks, they could not recreate that type of explosion no matter what they did.

The really sad/funny thing about all of this is that Clinton said, after 911, that he had wished it could have happened on his watch so he could look like the hero.  As we all now know, there were several terrorist attacks on Clinton's watch that he did not want to admit to being terrorism.

I do not normally agree with "conspiracy theories" except for JFK...but, I have read several books on 800 and all of the stuff that we later learned from advanced interrogation techniques, and it is obvious to me that we were not told the entire truth about this incident.

Where in NJ did you live?

I was born in Plainfield and moved to Hunterdon County when I was 7.

I live in Kentucky (for 30 years now)  and do not miss Joisy at all.

Bill

Documentary surrounding the likely cover up of the TWA 800 crash.
Produced by James Sanders and Jack Cahill:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6umn4nsNN2E

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Documentary surrounding the likely cover up of the TWA 800 crash.
Produced by James Sanders and Jack Cahill:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6umn4nsNN2E

@Pirate88179,

I'm from Nutley. That's the town Martha Stewart's from. Her father Ed Kostyra was my Scout Master.

Nutley?  Then I am sure you know Uncle Floyd?  I met him once in a bar in Bound Brook where he was playing piano.  If you know him or of him, he was also in Good Morning Vietnam.  I used to watch his show all of the time.  I have been there several times on business but, that was along time ago.

Bill

PS  AKA Floyd Vivino.

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Nutley?  Then I am sure you know Uncle Floyd?  I met him once in a bar in Bound Brook where he was playing piano.  If you know him or of him, he was also in Good Morning Vietnam.  I used to watch his show all of the time.  I have been there several times on business but, that was along time ago.

Bill

PS  AKA Floyd Vivino.

@Pirate88179,

Here he is! He really is great:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UHp3QOOJmQ

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@Pirate88179,

Here he is! He really is great:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UHp3QOOJmQ

Exactly!  He is great and really funny.  His "kids" show was really aimed at adults...and college students. I found a link for his radio show...but it only has one show on it.
http://tunein.com/radio/Uncle-Floyd-Radio-s199901/

Bill

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Speaking before an audience of about 1,000 students at Georgetown University, former president Clinton unbosomed an astonishing range of ignorance about various historical events and even more flawed thinking about what the events mean and what they have to do with the Sept. 11 attacks.

“Here in the United States,” he  disclosed, “we were founded as a nation that practiced slavery, and slaves quite frequently were killed even though they were innocent.” “This country once looked the other way when a significant number of native Americans were dispossessed and killed to get their land or their mineral rights or because they were thought of as less than fully human…. And we are still paying a price today” for those sins.

Clinton boasted of letting Bin Laden go to an audience in Australia on 9/10 2001 a few hours before the attack, then he stated "The attack helped America atone for the sins of slavery" on 9/12.

These statements augment the two terrorist attack cover ups in Oklahoma and JFK in New York he oversaw .

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Speaking before an audience of about 1,000 students at Georgetown University, former president Clinton unbosomed an astonishing range of ignorance about various historical events and even more flawed thinking about what the events mean and what they have to do with the Sept. 11 attacks.

“Here in the United States,” he  disclosed, “we were founded as a nation that practiced slavery, and slaves quite frequently were killed even though they were innocent.” “This country once looked the other way when a significant number of native Americans were dispossessed and killed to get their land or their mineral rights or because they were thought of as less than fully human…. And we are still paying a price today” for those sins.

Clinton boasted of letting Bin Laden go to an audience in Australia on 9/10 2001 a few hours before the attack, then he stated "The attack helped America atone for the sins of slavery" on 9/12.

These statements augment the two terrorist attack cover ups in Oklahoma and JFK in New York he oversaw .
Clinton may be many things:  narcissist, philanderer, two-faced SOB, etc, but he isn't stupid.  And one would have to be colossally stupid to have made the quote you allege ever, much less on 9/12/2001.  Do you have a reliable attribution for the quote, or is it an urban myth?

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Clinton may be many things:  narcissist, philanderer, two-faced SOB, etc, but he isn't stupid.  And one would have to be colossally stupid to have made the quote you allege ever, much less on 9/12/2001.  Do you have a reliable attribution for the quote, or is it an urban myth?

@MarkE,

He's not stupid, but making that remark was the all time stupidest thing he ever did! Not every foot of network news video is archived on Youtube. I saw it. Clinton categorically maintains 9/11 was not an inside job. Finding the truth out from Bill Clinton is like searching for intelligent life on the planet Mars.

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@MarkE,

Whether Bill Clinton made that remark or not; The bottom line on the 9/11 attacks is that the ground level hole punched through the Pentagon wall that day, the one the government falsely maintains was made by a commercial aircraft, was physically unachievable. I can assure everyone, as a highly trained military pilot, that it's completely impossible to fly any kind airplane that close to the ground at cruise speed due to "Ground Effect" cushioning. The aircraft would need to be traveling at landing speed to get that close to the ground. That explosion was either caused by a missile or a bomb planted inside the building. The Government supplied us with a "Surveillance Video", with the airplane missing!

Former President Clinton was barred from practicing law before the Supreme Court because he was found guilty of committing an act of perjury while under oath. He maintains that terrorists piloted an aircraft into the Pentagon on 9/11, 2001. This story line, that Bill Clinton is trying to help hoodwink the public with, is an outrageous falsehood and just one in a long line of cover up stories designed to foist a costly policy of "Global Domination", "Domestic Surveillance", and "Militarization" of the Municipal Police on the American people with. 
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