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Re: Permanent magnet motor
« Reply #180 on: February 27, 2016, 09:48:42 PM »
I wonder if the secret to making a  magnet-motor or other looping devices function successfully,   would be to provide them with an  elliptical ( or oval ) orbit,  like planets( and electrons ? ) .

That is how a  single-self-looping-SMOT  should function,  maybe there is too much friction for it to succeed,  maybe one of my  magnetic-levitation  designs could be used or modified,  such as the 'Magnetic-Sled'  or  'levitating-ball' on the post below :
LARGE-FLAT-MAGNET FLOATING ON ARRAY.JPG
  and,   'BALL FLOATING INSIDE OF HALF-BALL MADE OF POLYGON SHAPED MAGNETS.JPG' on the following post :
http://overunity.com/16295/all-permanent-magnet-complete-levitation/msg469597/#msg469597

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Re: Permanent magnet motor
« Reply #180 on: February 27, 2016, 09:48:42 PM »

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Re: Permanent magnet motor
« Reply #181 on: February 28, 2016, 08:30:07 PM »
I wonder if the secret to making a  magnet-motor or other looping devices function successfully,   would be to provide them with an  elliptical ( or oval ) orbit,  like planets( and electrons ? ) .

That is how a  single-self-looping-SMOT  should function,  maybe there is too much friction for it to succeed,  maybe one of my  magnetic-levitation  designs could be used or modified,  such as the 'Magnetic-Sled'  or  'levitating-ball' on the post below :
LARGE-FLAT-MAGNET FLOATING ON ARRAY.JPG
  and,   'BALL FLOATING INSIDE OF HALF-BALL MADE OF POLYGON SHAPED MAGNETS.JPG' on the following post :
http://overunity.com/16295/all-permanent-magnet-complete-levitation/msg469597/#msg469597

    I forgot to include my  Magnet-Gravity-Motor in my last post,  even though it has a normal circular orbit unlike the  elliptical( oval ) orbits I mentioned .
     It would either stand vertically,  as in the diagram below, or it would function at an angle between  0 - 90-degrees. 
      All sorts of different versions could be designed,   it could for example contain 2 separate rows of stators like a SMOT, which I think could make it easier for the  rotating magnet( or, a rotating non-magnet ) to exit from the  thickest( strongest ) part of the stator .

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Re: Permanent magnet motor
« Reply #182 on: February 29, 2016, 08:22:03 AM »
guest 1289 your invention is brilliant pity i am broke at the moment but maybe not for long .
i will be looking forward to replicate it.. thanks for sharing..

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Re: Permanent magnet motor
« Reply #182 on: February 29, 2016, 08:22:03 AM »
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Re: Permanent magnet motor
« Reply #183 on: February 29, 2016, 10:57:53 PM »
I'm more interested in my other  magnet-motors,  mostly the numerous ones I posted on the following webpage :
http://overunity.com/15774/permanent-magnet-motor/165/
 and one on this webpage,  since they don't require gravity.

Below is  magnet-motor-3.5,  note that either the moving-component,  or,  the stators, could be non-magnets, or magnets, only one would need to be magnets.
  The reason 3 moving-components are joined to each other,  is to overcome the merge-points encountered in the stators,  since at any one time each moving component is at a different position above the merge-points in the stators.
    Another way to achieve this is by using multiple rows of offset stators,  as in :
   http://overunity.com/15774/permanent-magnet-motor/msg473788/#msg473788

    I was told that  magnet-motors  generate and accumulate eddy-currents( which slow or stop the motor ),  I don't know why it would not be possible to attach wiring( or metallic-mesh materials ) to transfer that electric-current away from the areas on the motor,  that's done in some electronic-devices .
    I assume every single  magnet-motor  I have designed could be affected by  eddy-currents  that it would generate, but it's something I know nothing about.
     

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Re: Permanent magnet motor
« Reply #184 on: March 01, 2016, 02:48:52 PM »
In the following post, 
http://overunity.com/16295/all-permanent-magnet-complete-levitation/msg475693/#msg475693
sm0ky2  typed :
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that townsend-brown guy did this 50 yrs or so ago, after he started making things electrostatically levitate.

the force can be arranged to repel, propel, attract, or detract motion between the source and the opposing charge,
whether it be on the object being moved or not.

in this manner, it is much like magnetism

   So many or most things that can be done with a magnet,  can be done with electrostatics.
     
   (  I still don't fully understand why electrostatic-motors actually do rotate successfully, I have reasons to believe why they should not function,  but I'll check the wikipedia-page and it's links   )

    So,  is it possible that by replacing a magnet with an electrostatically-charged-object  that you could achieve having  the  long sought   MONOPOLE   that  magnet-motor  makers have always claimed would make a  magnet-motor  possible,   although it would be an electrostatic-motor .

   I'm guessing that if the  'moving-electrostatically-charged-components'  in an   electrostatic-motor  could be  'prevented'  from discharging some of their charge to the  stators,  then the motor could run perpetually ( even though,  doing that to all  known  'electrostatic-motor'  designs would probably stop them functioning  ).

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Re: Permanent magnet motor
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Re: Permanent magnet motor
« Reply #185 on: March 02, 2016, 09:34:36 PM »
Anyone to try to build/check this one .

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Re: Permanent magnet motor
« Reply #186 on: March 02, 2016, 09:35:32 PM »
Changing direction of magnetic field lines through high permeability metal shield.

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« Reply #186 on: March 02, 2016, 09:35:32 PM »
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Re: Permanent magnet motor
« Reply #187 on: March 02, 2016, 09:37:00 PM »
Sorry this is the correct configuration

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Re: Permanent magnet motor
« Reply #188 on: March 02, 2016, 09:49:57 PM »
   So many or most things that can be done with a magnet,  can be done with electrostatics.
     
   (  I still don't fully understand why electrostatic-motors actually do rotate successfully, I have reasons to believe why they should not function,  but I'll check the wikipedia-page and it's links   )


the electrostatic motor operates through commutation, in much the same way a DC motor works.
charge on one plate is attracted to the opposite charge, then switches charges, and is attracted to the other side

we current use electricity to make magnets do this.
there is not yet an existing technology to commutate a magnetic interface, directly.
(at least not that I have seen)

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Re: Permanent magnet motor
« Reply #188 on: March 02, 2016, 09:49:57 PM »
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Re: Permanent magnet motor
« Reply #189 on: March 03, 2016, 12:46:57 AM »
stoyan_
I make a lot of  magnet-motor  designs,  but I am certainly no expert.

I assume the  2-joined-moving-magnets   are intended to  rotate in the  middle of the ring-stator-magnets
(  Or,  are the  2-joined-moving-magnets  intended to travel ( be propelled )  to the right-hand-side, or left-hand-side of the page,  or,    through the   ring-stator-magnets  )

Magnet-motors  always need a reason to move in a certain direction,  such as getting closer to another magnet. 
Your metal-shielding does create an imbalance,  but it should have no reason to rotate.
But,   the  2-joined-moving-magnets  could  have a reason to move to the   right-hand-side  or  left-hand-side  of the page,  because of the  metal-shielding.
 
Using ring-stators,   I wanted to design a  magnet-motor that takes advantage of the neutral zones of the ring-magnets,  to create propulsion.   
It would be pushed by the magnetic-field of the  ring-magnet,  while at the same time encountering no resistance in the neutral zone.     I think it would require  very-specifically-designed  ring-magnets that have much longer  neutral-zones,  or maybe even the addition of small extra stator-magnets.  (  and I guess the moving-magnet-component would resemble  a sleek-jet-airplane,   UNLESS,  I use your idea of  magnetic-shielding,  in which case it could look like anything )
(  The  magnet-motor  would resemble the particle-acccelerators like at CERN ,  but only in a very simple visual way )
The only advantage of a  ring-stator-magnet-motor  I can see,   is that the  moving-magnet-component  would hopefully be completely-levitated,  so that it should travel much much faster,   but the fastest speeds would only be possible in a straight line.
(  In my magnet-motor  designs,  I have used the  brick-wall-pattern( not identical to brick-walls ) for positioning the  stators,   or, by  joining  mulltiple-moving-magnet-components together,    to try and defeat the merge-points in the stators,   maybe that would be another idea for a  ring-stator-magnet-motor  )
 
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the electrostatic motor operates through commutation, in much the same way a DC motor works.
charge on one plate is attracted to the opposite charge, then switches charges, and is attracted to the other side

we current use electricity to make magnets do this.
there is not yet an existing technology to commutate a magnetic interface, directly.
(at least not that I have seen)

It's possible I described a method  "to commutate a magnetic interface, directly",  in my following post :
http://overunity.com/14311/work-from-2-magnets-19-output-2/msg473568/#msg473568

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It could be designed as a circular motor,   which just has 1 stator-magnet,  attracting magnets on the wheel .
      So, the single stator-magnet,  could have an axle running through it,  so that it could turn like a propellor,  and then using the  momentum  of the wheel moving( from attraction ),  that momentum of the wheel could be used to turn the  single stator-magnet 90-degrees,  each time a magnet on the wheel spins past .
(  you can figure the rest out )

   But now I just remembered that my  electric-motors  that I filed at the patent-registry,  don't need or use commutators.  I don't know if these electric-motor designs are worth anything,  and I'm sure I also lost  these designs due to  'circumstances' .
    In the diagram below,  is a  Disc-Magnet,  and the elctromagnetic-field from the conducting-wire close to the surface of the Disc-Magnet causes it to rotate.  (  In an actual-motor the entire surface of the Disc-Magnet would be covered by conducting-wires  )
   I got the idea by thinking of a solution to the problem posed on the following post
   http://overunity.com/15978/new-reactionless-motor-from-india/msg459408/#msg459408
   it involves   N-theory  vs  M-hypothesis,  and making a fully-rotating version of the  m-device  in the diagram in that post .

   You can download what I filed at the patent-registry,  from the link below
  https://sites.google.com/site/johnbackerinventionsanddesigns/john-backer---inventions-and-designs
    (  it's easy to download if you have chrome browser )

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Re: Permanent magnet motor
« Reply #190 on: March 03, 2016, 10:20:11 AM »
Sorry another correction. think it is final. BR.

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Re: Permanent magnet motor
« Reply #191 on: March 03, 2016, 10:27:46 AM »
For me it immitates circular magnetic field inserted in straight magnetic field lines.
Just like Lorenz force:

http://www.conspiracyoflight.com/Lorentz/Lorentzforce.html

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Re: Permanent magnet motor
« Reply #192 on: March 03, 2016, 10:28:42 AM »
not 100% sure though

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Re: Permanent magnet motor
« Reply #193 on: March 03, 2016, 10:56:58 AM »
Имитира сила на Лоренц в при проводник в магнитно поле.

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Re: Permanent magnet motor
« Reply #194 on: March 03, 2016, 07:48:24 PM »
stoyan_
I can see the  'effect'  you are trying to replicate,  but why are you using  ring-stator-magnets,  why not  normal-bar-magnets with square ends.
(  Or,  maybe  use round-flat-disk-magnets instead  )
   Are you hoping to use the  hollow area in  the ring-stator-magnets  to create an effect of stronger  propulsion .

 It is possible that the  'effect'  you are trying to replicate,  is the same reason why I assume the  Farday-Electric-Motor  cannot be made to function by just using permanent-magnets,  although I have never tried because  I don't have the magnets,  but I assume it has already been tried.

   The diagrams below


 

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