Author Topic: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico (Read 139464 times)

Pirate88179 · « **Reply #105 on:** May 18, 2015, 12:35:31 AM »

Quote from: hartiberlin on May 18, 2015, 12:21:48 AM

I asked further,
also the questions from MarkE about battery capacity and usage.
Also,
How do you do it that when the generator is producing power, that he does not brake the motor ?

Answer:

Las pruebas especificas de la moto han sido 32 horas continuas de uso. Por 5 mesos en diferentes terrenos
Pierde voltaje en las. Subidas. Pero recupera el doble eb bajadas

Google Translation:
Specific evidence of the bike have been 32 hours of continuous use. For 5 mesos in various fields
Lose voltage on. Increases. But recovers downs twice eb

Fucking Google translator... why is the translation so bad!!! GRrrr...

http://biblehub.com/greek/3319.htm
mesos: middle, in the midstOriginal Word: μέσος, η, ον
Part of Speech: Adjective
Transliteration: mesos
Phonetic Spelling: (mes'-os)
Short Definition: middle, in the middle
Definition: middle, in the middle, between, in the midst of.

Stefan, maybe this will help?

Bill

hartiberlin · « **Reply #106 on:** May 18, 2015, 12:46:00 AM »

My answer:

I see, so it is only small discharge and bigger charge effect... so the battery does keep its voltage steady as it is not allowed to discharge much, but is recharged again after a few milliseconds again... So you are basically keeping the ions at the battery plates.
But you use the faster electrons in the battery to drive the motor... so you probably use the effect the slow movement of the ions in the battery, so the battery does not discharge, although you have drawn lots of power from it.

His answer:

Espero poder haber aclarado sus dudas
En general.
No puedo dar datos mas exactos
Por el tema de patente. Esta es una invension patentada y cualquier replica de esto puede generar demandas
Es por ello que guardo modelos y marcas

Translation:

I hope to have clarified their doubts
In general.
I can not give more accurate data
On the issue of patent. This is a proprietary invension and any replica of this can generate demands
That is why I keep models and brands

hartiberlin · « **Reply #107 on:** May 18, 2015, 01:00:06 AM »

My answer:
Well, thank you very much Victor.
Well, a patent is not a good idea.
It is expensive and large companies can change some things and then patent it
themselves.
And then you have to sue them. Then it just depends who have better lawyers and more money to fight each other and usually a big company has more money and the small inventor loses the battle ...
That is why the crowdfunding and Technology Open Source is much better ..
then you still have to pay nothing for a patent worldwide.
Then you get the money crowdfunding. Take a look at kickstarter.com or indigogo.com
If a patent is registered does not mean you can make money from it.
It is expensive and as I said, the small inventor is always delivered by large corporations ... so you better be careful ...

ANswer:

Gracias por el apoyo y sobre todo por los datos que me esta proporcionando. La patente simplemente es como un elemento de proteccion de las grandes empresas petroleras. Que intentaran quitarme esto algun dia . pero la ide. Mas que nada es apoyar a la gente pobre con menos. Dinero. En donde yo vivo muchos jovenes caminan entre 2 y 5 horas para llegar a la escuela. Por tanto el proyecto esta basado en ese tipo de problemas,

En mexico es la unica manera que tenemos de protegernos los inventores. Patentando. Pero me parece mucho mejor la ide de esta pagina que usted me esta dando
Seria fantastico ttabajar en conjunto para mejorar par la gente pobre

Translation:
Thanks for your support and especially the data is providing me. The patent simply as an element of protection of big oil companies. They tried to take this away someday. but the ide. More than anything is to support poor people with less. Money. Where I live many young people walk between 2 and 5 hours to get to school. Therefore the project is based on such problems,

In mexico is the only way we can protect inventors. Patenting. But I feel much better ide of this product that you are giving me
Fantastic serious ttabajar pair together to improve poor people

hartiberlin · « **Reply #108 on:** May 18, 2015, 01:01:01 AM »

Maybe someone who can really speak well spanish can re-translate it in proper English and
post a summary here.
Many thanks.

MarkE · « **Reply #109 on:** May 18, 2015, 01:02:43 AM »

Quote from: hartiberlin on May 18, 2015, 12:21:48 AM

I asked further,
also the questions from MarkE about battery capacity and usage.
Also,
How do you do it that when the generator is producing power, that he does not brake the motor ?

Answer:

Las pruebas especificas de la moto han sido 32 horas continuas de uso. Por 5 mesos en diferentes terrenos
Pierde voltaje en las. Subidas. Pero recupera el doble eb bajadas

Google Translation:
Specific evidence of the bike have been 32 hours of continuous use. For 5 mesos in various fields
Lose voltage on. Increases. But recovers downs twice eb

Fucking Google translator... why is the translation so bad!!! GRrrr...

Well my human Spanish to English translation is:

"The specific evidence has been 32 hours continuous use for five months on different terrains. It loses voltage climbing but recuperates voltage going downhill."

You know my well established position on energy: If properly accounted, it always balances out. The statements as offered I do not believe.

Berto3 · « **Reply #110 on:** May 18, 2015, 01:05:14 AM »

Well, I recognize the keys and parts he is using. They are of a chinese e-scooter. First I thought that the R of R-Walker stands for Rotovertor. At least the two capacitors remember me at a circuit from this site: https://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/
When I see the motor it's maybe the same I got in my e-scooter. It's a 24/36V/48V DC pulse controlled one. May be he is using the low state of the pulstrain to charge the capacitors. On the right lower side there is a chrome round device. I suppose that it can be a generator so nearby the chain. This circuit shows the principle how the capacitors are being charged and decharged:
Berto

hartiberlin · « **Reply #111 on:** May 18, 2015, 01:12:53 AM »

@Berto3 ,
many thanks for your circuit diagram.

I further send him this message:

Hi Vic,
Well try to use the power of the Internet. Now you already have a lot of fans at overunity.com.
Try to start a kickstarter oder an indigogo campaign to receive money for the circuit diagram. this way you can earn very quickly some money and later you can write a book about your invention and sell it. This way you can make much more money than from any patent and also your friends in Mexico can benefit from it, if you release the circuit diagram after the crowdfunding campaign to the public in Open Source technology. So all your friends in Mexico can build then them self such a motorbike.
Some other people also have made very good money from crowdfunding their inventions. Also I would make advertisement for your crowdfunding. I have over 70.000 members in my overunity.com forum. so all you have to do is to start a campaign on one of the big crowdfunding platforms. This can be done in just one day and you already can make money this way ! Think about this !

MarkE · « **Reply #112 on:** May 18, 2015, 01:16:11 AM »

Quote from: hartiberlin on May 18, 2015, 01:00:06 AM

My answer:
Well, thank you very much Victor.
Well, a patent is not a good idea.
It is expensive and large companies can change some things and then patent it
themselves.
And then you have to sue them. Then it just depends who have better lawyers and more money to fight each other and usually a big company has more money and the small inventor loses the battle ...
That is why the crowdfunding and Technology Open Source is much better ..
then you still have to pay nothing for a patent worldwide.
Then you get the money crowdfunding. Take a look at kickstarter.com or indigogo.com
If a patent is registered does not mean you can make money from it.
It is expensive and as I said, the small inventor is always delivered by large corporations ... so you better be careful ...

ANswer:

Gracias por el apoyo y sobre todo por los datos que me esta proporcionando. La patente simplemente es como un elemento de proteccion de las grandes empresas petroleras. Que intentaran quitarme esto algun dia . pero la ide. Mas que nada es apoyar a la gente pobre con menos. Dinero. En donde yo vivo muchos jovenes caminan entre 2 y 5 horas para llegar a la escuela. Por tanto el proyecto esta basado en ese tipo de problemas,

En mexico es la unica manera que tenemos de protegernos los inventores. Patentando. Pero me parece mucho mejor la ide de esta pagina que usted me esta dando
Seria fantastico ttabajar en conjunto para mejorar par la gente pobre

Translation:
Thanks for your support and especially the data is providing me. The patent simply as an element of protection of big oil companies. They tried to take this away someday. but the ide. More than anything is to support poor people with less. Money. Where I live many young people walk between 2 and 5 hours to get to school. Therefore the project is based on such problems,

In mexico is the only way we can protect inventors. Patenting. But I feel much better ide of this product that you are giving me
Fantastic serious ttabajar pair together to improve poor people

Thank you for your support and the information you have given me. A patent is for protection from the big oil companies. They want to try to stop me one day. But here it is important to support the poor. Where I live many children walk two to five hours to school. This project is based on such problems. In Mexico patents are the only way to protect inventors. But I like the idea that you gave me. It is fantastic to work with together for the poor.

Void · « **Reply #113 on:** May 18, 2015, 01:41:17 AM »

Hi Stefan. I think the reason some of his answers are a bit vague or unclear is probably that he may not have fully understood
your questions or points in some cases, and also that he doesn't want to reveal too much because he plans to patent his invention.
In such a case he also may have deliberately said a few things which are not correct to throw off any potential replicators.

I say this because I think anyone who plans to patent an invention would probably be inclined to do the same if
someone is asking a lot of questions looking for specific details.

totoalas · « **Reply #114 on:** May 18, 2015, 02:06:53 AM »

Hi
I remember in one of the thread 60ah battery maybe dead somebody suggested to use the e scooter speed controller with 24 v volts to fast charge a drained battery in a car I think this can be used for the caps charging

MarkE · « **Reply #115 on:** May 18, 2015, 03:13:12 AM »

Quote from: Void on May 18, 2015, 01:41:17 AM

Hi Stefan. I think the reason some of his answers are a bit vague or unclear is probably that he may not have fully understood
your questions or points in some cases, and also that he doesn't want to reveal too much because he plans to patent his invention.
In such a case he also may have deliberately said a few things which are not correct to throw off any potential replicators.
I say this because I think anyone who plans to patent an invention would probably be inclined to do the same if
someone is asking a lot of questions looking for specific details.

He's going to have a devil of a time patenting an electric scooter.

Hhx · « **Reply #116 on:** May 18, 2015, 04:46:39 AM »

Hi All,

I agree with MarkE's translation, all right.

mesos=meses=months

A detail:
"Pierde voltaje en las. Subidas. Pero recupera el doble eb bajadas"

" It loses voltage climbing but recuperates voltage going downhill."

Uphill loss = 1x
Downhill gain = 2x

In levelled road = 0x (I believe)

Regards

Berto3 · « **Reply #117 on:** May 18, 2015, 05:13:49 PM »

On Endless-sphere I found an interesting threat from 2009 about the Ultracap Bike. If the regeneration storing in caps is better or more efficient than a li-ion battery you have to find out yourself, watch:
http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=7511&start=25
One specific item really interested me.

"Regeneration: In industry commercial inverters are used to vary AC motor speeds by intentionally changing the frequency supplied to the motor. If you overspeed the motor, the motor is returning the power back to its power supply. When you use an inverter that has a variable frequency capability, you turn the frequency down and your motor is a generator, returning its power to the controller, until your new reduced speed is reached. Or you can have a over running load, like when you drive your AC motor powered tractor down a hill, and your motor is a generator.
Here is the problem in industry: Most AC inverters cannot return the excess power to the power line. There is a diode bridge that takes AC power and charges a capacitor bank. (There are a very few specialized AC inverters that use a bi-directional bridge of transistors to charge the capacitors or return power to the AC line.) With diodes that is strictly a one way trip. The capacitor bank is connected to the motor via a bridge of transistors or gate turn off SCRs. This bridge is bi-directional. So whenever the motor is a generator, the capacitor bank is charged up and potentially overcharged. Some drives turn off to protect the controller. Some drives switch on a resistor to dump the excess energy. Here we are not really regenerative, although the motor does not know any better.
If you were to replace the capacitor bank with batteries, like some electric cars, you now have the ability to absorb a lot of energy from the motor, and you can easily be regenerative over the entire speed range of the motor, whereas to regenerate with a DC motor you need to do tricks with field windings and still may not be regenerative over the entire speed range."

memoryman · « **Reply #118 on:** May 18, 2015, 07:13:59 PM »

"A patent is for protection from the big oil companies. They want to try to stop me one day"
It's funny how FE inventors worry about that, while multi-billion alternative energy companies don't.
Why doesn't 'Big Oil' go after them?

lancaIV · « **Reply #119 on:** May 18, 2015, 11:23:30 PM »

http://www.google.com/patents/US3809978
probably with a better motor and generator and instead the batteries using capacitors they get the better performance.

But they/he told us that they wish to patent their invention
they/he did not writing that this should be worldwide.

Bringing this to the exposition means that they applied before the Expos in Spain and Romenia.

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