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Author Topic: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico  (Read 138701 times)

hartiberlin

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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
« Reply #90 on: May 17, 2015, 10:09:14 PM »
Next question from me was:

Do you convert the 12 Volts from the battery to 42 Volts and then you energize ( pulse)  the motor coils with this 42 Volts ? And the BackEMF is then stored in the Super Capacitors ?

Answer:

Es el mismo calibre de cable..el convertidor solo es para disminuir el voltaje para no quemar los componentes.

It's the same caliber cable..el converter is only to decrease the voltage to avoid burning components.

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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
« Reply #91 on: May 17, 2015, 10:09:59 PM »
I asked:

I see.
so you changed the whole motor configuration with all its internal coils and
magnets ?

Answer:

Asi es.
Se modifico el motor.

So it is.
 The engine was modified.
Given the language barriers and also the high possiblity that there is misunderstanding on the part of the teens who built this bike, I suggest that you ask:

1) What are the battery ratings:  Voltage and amp hours or Watt hours.
2) What specific tests were performed to determine the bike's capabilities:  How far did the bike go, and was that over a closed circuit, and what was the terrain, and with how heavy a rider before the battery needed to be recharged.


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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
« Reply #92 on: May 17, 2015, 10:16:30 PM »
I asked:
But you said, you used 42 volts to drive the motor?
 So did you increase the Voltage ?


answer:


Asi es se aumenta la tension del motor. Pero me refiero a la disminucion de voltaje de algunos componentes.
Que estan previos a la generacion de energia


So is the motor voltage is increased. But I mean the voltage decrease of some components.
 They are before power generation

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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
« Reply #93 on: May 17, 2015, 10:26:41 PM »
I asked:
But you said, you used 42 volts to drive the motor?
 So did you increase the Voltage ?


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Asi es se aumenta la tension del motor. Pero me refiero a la disminucion de voltaje de algunos componentes.
Que estan previos a la generacion de energia


So is the motor voltage is increased. But I mean the voltage decrease of some components.
 They are before power generation
Stefan this sounds like they use a buck converter to generate low voltage for logic, say if they have an Arduino or some other microcontroller board running off 5V or 3.3V, and a boost converter to run the electric motor. 

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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
« Reply #94 on: May 17, 2015, 10:30:34 PM »
the motor modification has something to do with ufopolitics's assymetry concept ?

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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
« Reply #95 on: May 17, 2015, 10:34:19 PM »
Stefan this sounds like they use a buck converter to generate low voltage for logic, say if they have an Arduino or some other microcontroller board running off 5V or 3.3V, and a boost converter to run the electric motor.

So, possibly a Joule Thief for an electric bike then?  But, if they are simply stepping up the voltage and using pulses, that would not account
for converting 36 watts into 1500 watts right?  Obviously still some translation and communications issues here.  Also, it sounds like they want to file a patent on this so, exact details might be withheld anyway.

All in all, it is still very interesting, and puzzling at the same time.

Bill

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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
« Reply #96 on: May 17, 2015, 10:40:26 PM »
Good info Stefan. It is a little hard to determine if he is talking completely about the electric drive motor,
or also referring to the dynamo as an electric motor as well. Maybe he would only refer to the dynamo
generator as a dynamo however. It may well be that he made modifications to both the electric drive motor
and the dynamo generator, as he previously mentioned in an interview about spending time on the dynamo, I believe.

All the best...


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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
« Reply #97 on: May 17, 2015, 10:41:04 PM »
I asked then:

Yes, I see, the super capacitors have only a limited voltage.
But how do you increase the amperes ?

Answer:

Aumentando frecuencias constantes. Sin tomar sobrantes

Increasing constant frequencies. Without taking leftovers

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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
« Reply #98 on: May 17, 2015, 10:43:28 PM »
So, possibly a Joule Thief for an electric bike then?  But, if they are simply stepping up the voltage and using pulses, that would not account
for converting 36 watts into 1500 watts right?  Obviously still some translation and communications issues here.  Also, it sounds like they want to file a patent on this so, exact details might be withheld anyway.

All in all, it is still very interesting, and puzzling at the same time.

Bill
Suppose they have a 3Ah 12V battery.  That could be misinterpreted as a 36W battery when it is a 36Wh battery.  There is a huge difference.  When dealing with batteries, particularly high C rate batteries like NiCd, NiMH, or Li-ion, C rates of over 50: full discharge in just over one minute are possible with some cells.  A 36Wh battery discharged at a C50 rate delivers 1800W for that short time.

However, here they have a couple of 1.5F super capacitors.  For milliseconds those capacitors can deliver rather high power.  But they have only about 100J to give before they are fully depleted.

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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
« Reply #99 on: May 17, 2015, 10:46:25 PM »
Did you increase the frequency in the generator or in the motor ?

Answer:

Ambos

In both.


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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
« Reply #100 on: May 17, 2015, 10:48:26 PM »
I asked then:
Yes, I see, the super capacitors have only a limited voltage.
But how do you increase the amperes ?

Answer:
Aumentando frecuencias constantes. Sin tomar sobrantes
Increasing constant frequencies. Without taking leftovers

Well, that response is a puzzle... :)

"Without taking leftovers"
Without taking excess? Excess of what? This one is not clear... :)



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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
« Reply #101 on: May 17, 2015, 10:49:35 PM »
Did you increase the frequency in the generator or in the motor ?

Answer:
Ambos

In both.

Must be talking about increasing the RPM then I would think...


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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
« Reply #102 on: May 18, 2015, 12:21:48 AM »
I asked further,
also the questions from MarkE about battery capacity and usage.
Also,
How do you do it that when the generator is producing power, that he does not brake the motor ?

Answer:

Las pruebas especificas de la moto han sido 32 horas continuas de uso. Por 5 mesos en diferentes terrenos
Pierde voltaje en las. Subidas. Pero recupera el doble eb bajadas

Google Translation:
Specific evidence of the bike have been 32 hours of continuous use. For 5 mesos in various fields
 Lose voltage on. Increases. But recovers downs twice eb

Fucking Google translator... why is the translation so bad!!! GRrrr...

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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
« Reply #103 on: May 18, 2015, 12:27:24 AM »
New question:

Are you recharging the battery with Voltage pulses or with constant DC current ?

Answer:
Pulsos de tension. La corriente continua es inestable
Por lo que debes cargar con pulsos
Son mas estables y constantes

Voltage pulses. The DC is unstable
 So you carry pulses
 They are more stable and steady

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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
« Reply #104 on: May 18, 2015, 12:34:53 AM »
New questions:
I see. Yes, pulsing is good for the battery. As the ions are slower than the electrons you can win energy this way, if you always pulse the battery back with high voltage pulses. I have seen this also in my experiments that this way a battery is running longer on the same load !

Answer:
Asi es.
Me da gusto que tus experimentos esten funcionando

So it is.
 I'm glad that your experiments are functioning


Question:
So you drive the motor from the battery for a few milliseconds with voltage and then toggle the electronic switch and recharge the battery for a few milliseconds and do this back and forth ?


Answer:


Ese podria ser su funcionamiento en general,

That might be the general functioning,