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Author Topic: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico  (Read 92931 times)

Dave45

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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
« Reply #165 on: May 14, 2016, 02:32:16 PM »
This would force electrons into the neg side of the bat but is it charging the battery?

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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
« Reply #166 on: May 14, 2016, 05:24:48 PM »
I don’t understand enough to comment on your diagram, Dave (nice to see you back). Perhaps someone else with more familiarity with circuits will. 

I would like to offer some of my own observations about what I think might be going on in this self sustaining motor-generator setup.

1.   Open System Configuration. This setup is likely an open system. From outward appearances, it might look like a closed system, but the dynamics of what is going on in its wiring and (likely fairly simple) circuitry seem to indicate that it is drawing power from the ambient to overcome losses and supply enough charge to make the system self-sustaining.
2.   Using (not negating) Lenz’ Law. The builders may have found a way to take advantage of Lenz’ law, to harness the positive and negative sides of the duty cycle.
3.   Resonance. The setup may be operating at a self-resonant frequency with or without harmonics, to minimize reactive losses.
4.   Partnered output coils / series bifilar windings. There seems to be ample evidence that this kind of coil config can produce >1 COP effects due to its interaction with the ambient medium and its energies.
5.   Don Smith Effect.  This effect with capacitors has already been expressed a few posts back. 
6.   Lead Acid Battery as Energy Antenna. Bedini and others have shown that the LAB, when running a pulsed system at the proper frequency will actually draw in vast amounts of charge from the ambient. It may be that the frequency of the motor/generator is facilitating this, that is, if it is using a LAB.

I won’t argue the merits of these observations. Others have done that for pages on end. I’m only interested in moving ahead with constructive sharing of ideas and findings.
Bob

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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
« Reply #167 on: May 14, 2016, 05:59:10 PM »
What sort of voltage is required to communicate with ground? Does the use of a capacitor reduce this required minimum voltage in any way? Don speaks of "more negative moving to the less negative", could this mean the use of the ground as "less negative" and cap neg as " more negative" or vis versa. The positive charge of one cap plate should draw an "excess" of negative charge to the other cap plate and cause it to be "more negative" than whatever ground is being used.

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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
« Reply #167 on: May 14, 2016, 05:59:10 PM »
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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
« Reply #168 on: May 14, 2016, 06:08:15 PM »
https://youtu.be/BJ8CHJscmR8
Starting at about 1:30 Don says more about this AEG setup and his use of capacitors. I'm particularly interested in the statement about just taking "the capacitor that's already in that motor scooter and wiring it slightly different" and having "a motor scooter that can run basically forever", geezeus it drives me nuts how easy he makes it sound.

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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
« Reply #169 on: May 14, 2016, 06:14:35 PM »
I also want to fully understand what is meant when Don and people who work in the car audio field say that approximately 1 Farad equals(or is needed for) 1000 Watts of output power.

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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
« Reply #170 on: May 14, 2016, 07:01:45 PM »
What sort of voltage is required to communicate with ground? Does the use of a capacitor reduce this required minimum voltage in any way? Don speaks of "more negative moving to the less negative", could this mean the use of the ground as "less negative" and cap neg as " more negative" or vis versa. The positive charge of one cap plate should draw an "excess" of negative charge to the other cap plate and cause it to be "more negative" than whatever ground is being used.
If you look at the circuit i post the bemf from thr coil is going to charge the top side of the cap and depending on the setup that charge could be thousands of volts, that will pull the same from the ground and once the pos charge is removed the diode sill block the neg charge from returning to ground, it will enter the neg of the battery but will this charge the battery, i really dont think it will. A battery charging circuit pulls electrons from the pos an pumps them into the neg.
Im going to study it awhile

Dave45

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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
« Reply #171 on: May 14, 2016, 08:50:50 PM »
Using an antenna and ground makes more sense.

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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
« Reply #172 on: May 14, 2016, 08:54:08 PM »
Well your pulling or attracting electrons or protons out of the earth both are doable. You have the new charge on the cap you just short it out across the battery. No need to fource any thing .or you can short a light bulb across the cap or caps or you could dump the energy in to a motor coil . what ever you wish to do with it's yours for free. You could spark it inside of a glass jar upside down over water and make nitrogen fertilizer from the air. The English found that if they put a charge across a tomato it would preserve it from rotting.Jim out 👍

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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
« Reply #173 on: May 14, 2016, 09:11:21 PM »
Dave 45 do some verifying postulating is fine but hands on will set you straight .I was doing that and after hands on things were different than what I thought. Made a big difference.got me from a to b.in reality. My thinking didn't matter if it doesn't work in real time. The Establishment has programed every one to think one way and it really has tripped us up. You'll know (experimentally-in the Greek) the truth and the truth will set you free!!. Not presumption will set you free .good hunting Jim out👍

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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
« Reply #173 on: May 14, 2016, 09:11:21 PM »
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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
« Reply #174 on: May 15, 2016, 03:10:28 AM »
Hey Jim yes testing is required, but you have to have a direction.
Using a cap to pull energy from the ambient makes sense.
Load one side and the other side is going to have a deficit, which creates a vacuum.

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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
« Reply #175 on: May 15, 2016, 07:33:27 AM »
Using an antenna and ground makes more sense.

It is the exact way around.
The wire first needs to be charged up to a high potential.
This will create 'disequilibrium' and nature will see this and act on it by restoring equilibrium/voltage potential.
That restoring action can be loaded to drive a closed loop circuit.
Essentially for free because the first high voltage tension was created for free / without current,
From a charged capacitor that doesn't get loaded so can be used over and over again.

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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
« Reply #175 on: May 15, 2016, 07:33:27 AM »
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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
« Reply #176 on: May 15, 2016, 10:12:46 AM »
Hay guys great thinking .one of my phobias is that some day I will have nothing in my head and my skull will collapse. Quote from  fight club. Good hunting gentleman. Jim out.

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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
« Reply #177 on: May 16, 2016, 05:49:30 AM »
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Hey Jim yes testing is required, but you have to have a direction.
Using a cap to pull energy from the ambient makes sense.
Load one side and the other side is going to have a deficit, which creates a vacuum.
Agreed. Don Smith's use of capacitor shows us that there is a great amount of charge in the dielectric medium (between the capacitor's plates, and around the capacitor itself).  The charge on the output capacitor plate in DS' example isn't transferred from the input plate. Rather, it is supplied from the dielectric.

By placing a stress of potential difference on the dielectric (via the potential difference between the 2 capacitor plates), the dielectric is forced to respond. Here is where the idea of antenna and ground come in. The antenna and ground essentially widen the window of potential difference and enable the circuit to place a greater amount of stress on the dielectric between the capacitor plates. This allows the circuit - and more specifically, the capacitor - to do what Dave says, - "pull energy from the ambient."
Bob

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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
« Reply #178 on: May 16, 2016, 08:42:47 AM »
Not between the capacitor plates Bob but on nature itself from the capacitor.
The charge is used to stress the local environment to bait nature.

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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
« Reply #179 on: May 16, 2016, 02:47:39 PM »
Not between the capacitor plates Bob but on nature itself from the capacitor.
The charge is used to stress the local environment to bait nature.
Thanks Turbo,
I agree. The dielectric medium is pervasive - not just within the cap, but also around it as one coextensive reality that becomes stressed to push back.
Bob

 

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