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Author Topic: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico  (Read 90374 times)

Offline lespaul109

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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
« Reply #120 on: May 21, 2015, 04:36:58 PM »
I'm going to start working on a replication. It seems to me that it is related to Don Smith's references to super capacitors. Watch the #6 video of his 2005 lecture. Two super caps can shuttle energy through a motor recharging each other. A super capacitor in series "looks" like a wire to the flow of current until it charges to a certain amount. The current that would have been wasted flowing into the positive side of a battery or super cap, without the cap in series with the load, is collected for free. You would have to use a boost converter so the charges wouldn't balance out. I have some 150W models that turn on at 10v. One thing about these boosters is that the output is stabilized so if the cap that is feeding it is draining from 16v to 10v, the output stays at a constant voltage.  Once the collection capacitor is charged to 16 volts or so, the circuit changes so that the collecting super cap in now feeding the load and the other super cap is now acting as the collector in series with the load. I don't know if I'm smart enough to design the switching circuit though. Maybe someone would help me with that part. It would need to be voltage controlled somehow. Arduino may have a use here. There may need to be a small generator connected to the drive system of the scooter to make up for what is not recovered in the storage caps. I apologize for any obvious or rhetorical statements that I may have made. 

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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
« Reply #121 on: May 21, 2015, 04:50:41 PM »
Too bad that it doesn't work.

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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
« Reply #122 on: May 21, 2015, 04:55:13 PM »
I also have a 10 farad car audio cap(PCX10F) in the shape of a car amp that I disassembled to check out and test the two large caps inside. When I opened her up, the first things I saw were six 10F 2.7v caps wired in series. Those were in parallel with two 2inch dia. 8in long aluminum cans that I wanted to test. After disconnecting them from the bus bars I tested each by charging to 14 volts then discharging through a 47ohm resistor. After doing some math, they came out to around 0.2F or 200mf each. Lesson learned. Here's a video about building large value super caps for really cheap. I found 10F 2.7v caps for $1.50ea if anyone wants to build there own super cap bank.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTt_YBzJ_Dk

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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
« Reply #122 on: May 21, 2015, 04:55:13 PM »
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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
« Reply #123 on: May 21, 2015, 04:56:26 PM »
@memoryman


What doesn't work?

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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
« Reply #124 on: May 21, 2015, 05:23:21 PM »
The AEG.

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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
« Reply #124 on: May 21, 2015, 05:23:21 PM »
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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
« Reply #125 on: May 21, 2015, 06:17:07 PM »
I'm not sure anyone has been able to replicate the concept that Don "omitted" from the AEG paper. The most important info was not included.


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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
« Reply #126 on: May 21, 2015, 07:07:15 PM »
" The most important info was not included." That is usually the case with OU claims; avoids the need to explain why it cannot and does not work.

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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
« Reply #127 on: May 22, 2015, 01:38:16 AM »
" The most important info was not included." That is usually the case with OU claims; avoids the need to explain why it cannot and does not work.
Where is your proof.

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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
« Reply #128 on: May 22, 2015, 01:52:49 AM »
Les Paul 109.  The concept is not new. Don Smith didn't know about Carlos Benitez.
http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Patents/Benitez/GB191505591A.pdf


Page 5 paragraph 5 makes exactly the same claim.

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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
« Reply #128 on: May 22, 2015, 01:52:49 AM »
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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
« Reply #129 on: May 22, 2015, 02:03:02 AM »
Thanks for the link! Wish I could understand it better.

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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
« Reply #130 on: May 22, 2015, 02:16:30 AM »
Les PAul 109:;
http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Patents/Benitez/GB191417811A.pdf


page 5 parag 5  the claim is repeated.


So 2 granted patents using the same principle of electrostatic induction.

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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
« Reply #130 on: May 22, 2015, 02:16:30 AM »
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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
« Reply #131 on: May 22, 2015, 02:21:13 AM »
Thanks for the link! Wish I could understand it better.



It took me 4 weeks to understand it  -  Full Time.
I built the second patent. It only worked for 2 mins at a time because my trafos were the wrong spec.
In fact everything was wrong, some just worse than others, but I established the principle.
Then I built the third one and it worked a treat.



You'll also have to get a 19th century pdf on electrical terms
(Google is your friend here).

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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
« Reply #132 on: May 22, 2015, 02:47:04 AM »
Which one is the "3rd" one?

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Re: R-Walker Selfsustaining Free Energy bike from Mexico
« Reply #134 on: May 22, 2015, 07:12:13 AM »
I have 2 of those capacitors like on the bike this thread is about. These are not really super caps. Quite large for 1 farad. Were used heavily in the car audio industry years ago. They are pretty leaky as in they drop their stand alone voltage pretty quickly down to between 6 and 9v. 20v rated, but drops faster at 20v and slows getting down in the 6 to 9v range and drains slower.

Seems like a bit of a loss to add these to a self powering device.  Would be better to use an bank of smaller, less leaky caps.

I also have an alumapro 50 farad cap that is so leaky, they give you a 100a relay to turn to connect and disconnect with the ign on then off as to not drain the battery over night. If you run 4awg power and gnd to the cap using the relay and the wires are not tied down, the 4awg cables will move, flinch when the relay is activated.  Provides a good punch to amplifier input current since the battery is typically 15 to 20 ft of power cable away, amps in trunk. But there is waste factor. Of course, car audio is not OU of any sort, so these losses are mostly ignored.


Probably better to use a bank of real super caps in series to be able to handle the voltage level needed, then parallel for more storage and lower total internal bank resistance as compared to just a single series bank. Say 6 super caps in series bank is 6 times the internal resistance of 1 cap. So 6 series banks of 6 caps each would equal the same total resistance as 1 cap.  So smaller super caps and more parallel banks of them of them would be best.

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