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### Author Topic: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW  (Read 67546 times)

#### lumen

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##### Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
« Reply #135 on: July 31, 2015, 08:20:07 PM »
There is no -10 psi; the best vacuum is 0 psi.
"If you look back I thought it may be better to pump out the water and let air flow in since pumping water is much more efficient." how so? either way you have to displace the same volume of water.

-10 psi is simply quibbling, it depends on your point of reference. Since atmospheric pressure varies around 14.7 psi and most pressure gauges are set to zero at this pressure, the most you could get would be -14.7 psi.

Pumping water is much more efficient because it does not compress like air. A cylinder with a volume of 1 liter could compress air and purge very little water from the float, but the same cylinder could pump 1 liter water from the float in a single stroke.

Now we can see that this is the loop!

The inefficiency of compressing air allows some loss to be recovered but the work done after recovery could only be the same as directly pumping the water out which would be much more efficient but still be under unity.

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##### Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
« Reply #135 on: July 31, 2015, 08:20:07 PM »

#### memoryman

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##### Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
« Reply #136 on: July 31, 2015, 09:37:19 PM »
Since 0 psi denotes an absolute vacuum, it makes no sense to talk about -psi.
The whole bouyancy idea as a net energy producer is defective; whether it is 25% or 95% efficient is not the point, since the KPP is presented as an OU device.

#### MarkE

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##### Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
« Reply #137 on: July 31, 2015, 10:42:27 PM »
Since 0 psi denotes an absolute vacuum, it makes no sense to talk about -psi.
The whole bouyancy idea as a net energy producer is defective; whether it is 25% or 95% efficient is not the point, since the KPP is presented as an OU device.
Lumen is being a little bit sloppy by omitting the term "gage".  He means gage pressure which can go to -1 ATM.

As far as the KPD (Kinetic Power Dissipator) goes, you are of course correct.  There is no arrangement of the elements that yields even a large fraction of the electrical input energy to the compressor as output mechanical work from the water column contraption.

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##### Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
« Reply #137 on: July 31, 2015, 10:42:27 PM »

#### Pirate88179

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##### Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
« Reply #138 on: August 01, 2015, 03:23:12 AM »
well good luck to a brilliant fake in broad day light just like 911..
and the Apollo 11 moon landing and the bumble bee..

I hope that you are not serious here.  IF you are, then you are really insulting thousands of brilliant engineers and hard working technicians that made the moon landings possible.  I feel very sorry for you if you believe that one of the greatest endeavors of mankind was faked.  It was totally true I can assure you, despite what you might have read on the internet or have heard from some wack job college professor.

Also, the bumble bee does indeed fly, as you might be aware, and, it adheres to all known aerodynamic principles.  What you are quoting here is just another internet myth repeated by uneducated idiots.

No educated person will ever take you seriously when you post crap like this.  It labels you.

Bill

#### lumen

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##### Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
« Reply #139 on: August 01, 2015, 04:47:10 AM »
Since 0 psi denotes an absolute vacuum, it makes no sense to talk about -psi.

I always thought I was living in a vacuum and now that I am holding this brand new pressure gauge in my hand and see it is reading zero I finally have proof!

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##### Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
« Reply #139 on: August 01, 2015, 04:47:10 AM »

#### seychelles

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##### Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
« Reply #140 on: August 01, 2015, 12:13:21 PM »
pirate it is easy if they can take a photo of pluto why don't
they just turn the hubble telescope and point it to where the appolo 11
landed and then i will believe.. they should have actually done that on the 50
th year to the moon celebration. and why did buz assaulted this guy when he was
asked if he really went to the moon.. mr armstrong refuse to swear on the bible him
being a christian he could not do that..nothing to do with him but with the higher Archie 0f
THE UNITED STATE OF AMERICA..SO WAKE UP  and smell the cat vomit they feed us in their
media movies and which other way they can infiltrate your pure brain..

#### MarkE

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##### Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
« Reply #141 on: August 01, 2015, 12:49:19 PM »
pirate it is easy if they can take a photo of pluto why don't
they just turn the hubble telescope and point it to where the appolo 11
landed and then i will believe.. they should have actually done that on the 50
th year to the moon celebration. and why did buz assaulted this guy when he was
asked if he really went to the moon.. mr armstrong refuse to swear on the bible him
being a christian he could not do that..nothing to do with him but with the higher Archie 0f
THE UNITED STATE OF AMERICA..SO WAKE UP  and smell the cat vomit they feed us in their
media movies and which other way they can infiltrate your pure brain..
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Can Hubble see the Apollo landing sites on the Moon?

No, Hubble cannot take photos of the Apollo landing sites.

An object on the Moon 4 meters (4.37 yards) across, viewed from HST, would be about 0.002 arcsec in size. The highest resolution instrument currently on HST is the Advanced Camera for Surveys at 0.03 arcsec. So anything we left on the Moon cannot be resolved in any HST image. It would just appear as a dot.

If you would like to see pictures of Apollo landing sites, here is one place that you can look:  http://www.space.com/12796-photos-apollo-moon-landing-sites-lro.html

Buzz Aldrin punched Bart Sibrel only after Bart Sibrel followed and harrassed Aldrin continuosly for several minutes.  Sibrel's video crew shot the whole encounter:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wptn5RE2I-k.  Testosterone infused cowboys who were willing to risk their lives riding rockets aren't the type of personality that is going to get pushed around.

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##### Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
« Reply #141 on: August 01, 2015, 12:49:19 PM »

#### SoManyWires

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##### Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
« Reply #142 on: August 01, 2015, 01:05:41 PM »
yes a spirited bunch those high flyers hehe

#### seychelles

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##### Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
« Reply #143 on: August 01, 2015, 01:21:05 PM »
it was  biggest waste of money going to the moon by now we should have had free
energy machine in every house in the world or solar cell plastered all over the world
same as all the wars these war mongering bastards have perpetuate on humanity..just this Iraq and Afghanistan
wars quadrillion of wasted dollars but it is all coming to bite us all ..the next stock market crash is just few weeks
away..get ready..i can go fishing and catch a feed..wake up and smell the CAT VOMIT..

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##### Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
« Reply #143 on: August 01, 2015, 01:21:05 PM »

#### SoManyWires

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##### Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
« Reply #144 on: August 01, 2015, 03:03:08 PM »
it was  biggest waste of money going to the moon by now we should have had free
energy machine in every house in the world or solar cell plastered all over the world
same as all the wars these war mongering bastards have perpetuate on humanity..just this Iraq and Afghanistan
wars quadrillion of wasted dollars but it is all coming to bite us all ..the next stock market crash is just few weeks
away..get ready..i can go fishing and catch a feed..wake up and smell the CAT VOMIT..

ya, the costs to put solid fuel rockets into space must be somewhat astronomical.
like the idea of using lasers from earth aimed upwards to fuel electric drive systems, though wonder if clouds  and badly positioned birds would prevent that.

while china saw their own version of the dollar fly way up last year, this last few months have been somewhat of a correction,
plus the investors of that currency also took their own markets strength for granted and overleveraged themselves in a way that could cause a slight domino effect and that is the fear of their lenders. a high fluctuating chart of a traded currency pair indicates instability and higher spreads between the two, but from what can be seen is that china and usa have a very low difference in the spread variations.
and rather than follow a trend, alot of traders seem to try to think they know exactly when a correction is about to occur, and thus end up locked into a holding pattern that includes small boosts fighting against those traders leverage allowances, before gradually or sometimes rather fast, chipping away in at their accounts holdings to greater levels,  because its common to notice a lack of knowing when its time to cut ones losses and walk away in order to remain in good shape for future battles.
sometimes the logic gets messed up, as they keep thinking: ok it isn't going to go any lower, a correction is about to occur!
but the even big money does not care if the smaller investor wants the market to go towards a correction just yet, margin calls, stop outs, humbling many including the lenders. and in china's case, there was alot of overborrowing. i think china's currency value has slipped somewhere around 30% recently.

but the first time it read something like, you had few choices, you could go fishing and eat that for dinner, or eating cat before sleeping causes people to have a weak stomach that brings up the cat vomit.  floor pizza.

#### seychelles

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##### Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
« Reply #145 on: August 01, 2015, 05:22:30 PM »
i was meaning us people WAKE UP AND SMELL THE CAT VOMIT. have you ever
smell cat vomit it is the most horrid smell ever invented by nature..

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##### Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
« Reply #145 on: August 01, 2015, 05:22:30 PM »

#### SoManyWires

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##### Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
« Reply #146 on: August 01, 2015, 06:31:32 PM »
yes, its smells like taco bell without the seasoning.
similar to a bulemic milkshake.