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profitis

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Re: Rosch taking orders on OU Bouyancy device.
« Reply #225 on: April 30, 2015, 04:24:49 PM »
Some steel towers were still partially standing after atomic bombs were blownup at the top of them in tests

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Re: Rosch taking orders on OU Bouyancy device.
« Reply #226 on: April 30, 2015, 04:36:16 PM »
Trust me, he couldn't punch his way out of a wet paper bag when it came to electronics.  When he arrived at OUR to pitch his circuit, it was absolutely shocking to see how clueless he was.  This was a _physics professor_ and in first year physics they teach you basic electronics.

I sent an email to Poynt, ION, and perhaps TK saying how shocked I was that a physics professor could come an present a simple circuit and seem so completely lost and clueless.

I am telling you in all sincerity that I was shocked.  Shocked because there was no comparison at all between this guy and the real physics professors that I encountered at school.  I don't know how he managed to get away with that while being on the payroll.
Well MH,he is a physics professor,not an EE-->there is a big difference.

I started life as a motor cycle mechanic,then moved onto HD mechanics,and then onto mechanical engineering. I now have my degree in all three. Just to throw a spanner in the work's,i also did my four year degree in green keeping lol-that was different,but it has come in handy. I now drive trucks for a living. I have all these skill's,but my grade with electronics and useing the scope is junior-->my spelling is also crap.

So just because we know our way around one thing,dosnt mean we are gun at another.

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Re: Rosch taking orders on OU Bouyancy device.
« Reply #227 on: April 30, 2015, 04:38:22 PM »
I doesn't matter Brad, what you have shown is not proof of anything except the examples you are showing are true.

I gave you the logical reasoning for why the towers would fall.  If you have a source of heat power, and you cannot evacuate that heat power fast enough, then the temperature must increase.  It's the same thing for a car engine.  It's just the physical reality and it can't be ignored.

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Re: Rosch taking orders on OU Bouyancy device.
« Reply #228 on: April 30, 2015, 04:46:53 PM »
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Well MH,he is a physics professor,not an EE-->there is a big difference.

Nope, because physics and basic electronics are exactly the same thing.  In junior college physics courses they typically teach you about capacitors and inductors and how they work.  That was my experience.

As far as I am concerned, it is essentially impossible for any physics professor to not be able to demonstrate complete competency with basic electronic circuits.  And that means that you use differential and integral equations to explain how capacitors and inductors work and you use the same equations to show how simple circuits work.

A real physics professor is supposed to be ROCK SOLID when it comes to this stuff.  They should know it as a reflex, without really having to think.

How do you calculate the escape velocity for Earth?   Do you think the average physics professor needs to remember the formula?  They answer is they don't.   They can simply derive it on paper using basic calculus in one minute flat.  That's a real physics professor.

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Re: Rosch taking orders on OU Bouyancy device.
« Reply #229 on: April 30, 2015, 04:58:57 PM »
I doesn't matter Brad, what you have shown is not proof of anything except the examples you are showing are true.

I gave you the logical reasoning for why the towers would fall.  If you have a source of heat power, and you cannot evacuate that heat power fast enough, then the temperature must increase.  It's the same thing for a car engine.  It's just the physical reality and it can't be ignored.
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In order for the temperature to rise,you must increase the oxygen(or an oxident of some type),or the heat will never reach a high level-->this is physics that determonds this,not me. The same go's for a car engine-->when dose it reach higher temperatures-->when the throttle is open full,or only half open?-disconect the cooling fan,and try it your self.

I stand by what i say,and that is-the fire alone never got close to being hot enough to bring down those buildings.This has been proven time and time again by those that know,and are not under the shadow of the government.

There are so many holes and untruths about that whole deal that just dont fit. 6 of the blokes that were suppose to be flying those planes are still alive today-->how is that?. One of the planes was still listed as ! in service! until 2006. We could go on for ever here,and this thread will take a dive in the wrong direction like so many have before.

So i say now,we either open a sepperate thread,or maybe there is an existing one here on OU,or we just say-each to there own,and leave it at that.

Agree or disagree MH,i do appreciate you being civil-->unlike some here. This is why i have respect for you and others like you. Even though we dont always agree,we tend to get along .

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Re: Rosch taking orders on OU Bouyancy device.
« Reply #230 on: April 30, 2015, 05:09:16 PM »
heat power....
well I was in Building 7 many times during its construction for testing
I worked with the fire proofer for building seven Too [attaching and wrapping beams and columns
with wire lathe to help hold the sprayed on fireproofing.

I have to say most buildings that I worked in or around [mostly new construction]
had run of the mill columns beams etc etc ,Building seven was built out of iron
with dimensions that were stupendous..quite extraordinary ,especially the lower levels.

funny how crosswalks over the street remained intact and the whole complex across the street
and surrounding buildings have mostly  window damage
but building seven comes down ....,and as Brad points out a first in history..
BTW the building Brad sited most likely did not have state of the art fireproofing and still remained standing.

Not  buying building 7....

Brad
How can we help you go further with your work??





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Re: Rosch taking orders on OU Bouyancy device.
« Reply #231 on: April 30, 2015, 05:19:26 PM »
9/11 - yea...  at this point there is no use in trying to convince either side.
Cognitive Dissidence is as powerful as hypnosis.


Anyone who believes that the BBC reporting that building 7
fell 20 minutes before it did was real report
based on reality is quite hypnotized.

No need to waste a breathe on this.. the past is the past.

I am still wondering about the Gadget this thread purports to be about.
Certainly will remain positive til the fat lady sings.


Sterling... I appreciate your time and efforts.
No need waste your time convincing anyone of anything...
just continue your path reporting and posting your thoughts.

That is where your time is best spent.

Best Regards to all,
                               The Observer

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Re: Rosch taking orders on OU Bouyancy device.
« Reply #232 on: April 30, 2015, 05:21:56 PM »
5kW * 24h * 5 days would be 600kWh not 1MWh.

It's been running continuously since Saturday, April 18, not just 5 days.

Regarding my quest to sup, I've been updating that daily as I go along, and will continue to do so. I've been very transparent in its unfolding.

Also, regarding the "power outage" See my recent blog posting, which I'll copy here
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Blog:GAIA%27s_AuKW_Demo#Power_Outage_Coincided_with_AuKW_Outage.3F

I just sent this to Roberto by Skype:
[14:20 GMT] "Hi Roberto, That email I sent ~8 hours ago asks a very important question that needs to be addressed. It points out that the emergency lighting only comes on during power outages; and that that power outage to the building coincided with the outage of the AuKW, which is supposed to be independent of mains power. This needs to be addressed, as people are using it as the smoking gun evidence that there is trickery going on."
Dansie had said, for example: "Safety lighting is triggered by power failures in Germany , the USA and even here in the Philippines."
Here is Roberto's reply to my email:

 
  From: "Verein GAIA | Roberto Reuter"  To: "Sterling Allan"  Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 13:36 [GMT]  Subject: Re: safety lighting 
 
  Dear Sterling,   The so called "safety light" is the emitted light from the IR diodes of both cameras.   I attached a link to a pic from the cam - so its maybe more easy to understand..   (http://gaia-energy.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/150430-aukw-besichtigung-halbzeit-2.jpg)   P.S: We use a TRENDNET TV-IP310PI   with best Regards from Roberto  Just now, he explained by Skype that their website is presently "offline - as we move our webspace to a more powerful server ;)"
I suggested "You might also take a photo of that portion of the ceiling in relation to the demo to show there is no safety light situated there."
He said he would.
/END OF BLOG EXCERPT

So, those of you who jumped to the conclusion that this was absolute evidence of fraud, how do you feel now, being shown wrong on this point? Are you going to apologize?

MileHigh

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Re: Rosch taking orders on OU Bouyancy device.
« Reply #233 on: April 30, 2015, 05:42:56 PM »
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Not  buying building 7....

I took a quick look but I couldn't find it.  It was a PBS Nova or something like that.

Building 7 took a nasty gash in the back of the building from falling debris that literally ripped the building from top to bottom.  For hours the building was buckling and creaking and they kept people out of it for fear it would collapse.

Then when it did collapse, it did not all go down in one piece, that's a lie.  The part in the back of the building with the nasty gash collapsed first.  You can clearly see it in the video plain as day.  Then that caused the rest of the building to collapse.

In this day and age, buildings are built to be "just strong enough to stand up and make the building code."   You would have to watch the documentary for all the details.  But once the back section of the building was gone, then the other main beams started to buckle because the building was "just strong enough to stand up" with caveat that this building needed to he structurally integral also.  It was a big mother of a building, about 70 stories?

So the moral of the story is that even a big building like that can be mortally wounded and collapse after several hours if it is hit by a high-velocity 300-ton projectile that causes a zipper-like gash that runs down the back of the building.  It was a good, serious, legit documentary that I saw.

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Re: Rosch taking orders on OU Bouyancy device.
« Reply #234 on: April 30, 2015, 05:52:54 PM »
MH
Your getting your buildings confused...

Not that it matters here  ,,but a slashed curtainwall is by no means a fatal blow.

Not even a flesh wound...A Joke actually [to use as a reason for collapse] ...

it would be good to see what you are talking about tho...
I never really followed any of this ,to close to home ,doesn't feel good at all.

maybe you could post it in the relevant thread.
some of us are very interested in This threads topic.
as well as the Tinmans experiments.

MileHigh

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Re: Rosch taking orders on OU Bouyancy device.
« Reply #235 on: April 30, 2015, 05:55:02 PM »
Sterling:

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So, those of you who jumped to the conclusion that this was absolute evidence of fraud, how do you feel now, being shown wrong on this point? Are you going to apologize?

What are you even saying here?  So the guy explained that the light was IR light done with IR LEDs?  So what, what does that prove?  What is  the point here?

I suppose that security cameras have their own IR lighting and visible emergency power lighting for people can be a totally separate thing.  So what?

I am missing something because even when it is supposedly running I don't see much in the clip that is convincing me that it is running.  Then when the power failure happens, besides the switchover to IR lighting, I still don't see much happening.  For me, I can't tell one way or the other before and after the power failure.  I just see a static image.

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Re: Rosch taking orders on OU Bouyancy device.
« Reply #236 on: April 30, 2015, 05:56:17 PM »
MH
Your getting your buildings confused...

Not that it matters here  ,,but a slashed curtainwall is by no means a fatal blow.

Not even a flesh wound...A Joke actually ...

It was not just a curtain wall, it was one of the "tubes" that make up the building that was gashed from top nearly to bottom.

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Re: Rosch taking orders on OU Bouyancy device.
« Reply #237 on: April 30, 2015, 06:37:57 PM »
Also, regarding the "power outage" See my recent blog posting, which I'll copy here
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Blog:GAIA%27s_AuKW_Demo#Power_Outage_Coincided_with_AuKW_Outage.3F

Here is Roberto's reply to my email:

 
  From: "Verein GAIA | Roberto Reuter" 
  To: "Sterling Allan" 
  Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 13:36 [GMT] 
  Subject: Re: safety lighting 
 
  Dear Sterling,   The so called "safety light" is the emitted light from the IR diodes of both cameras.   I attached a link to a pic from the cam - so its maybe more easy to understand..   (http://gaia-energy.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/150430-aukw-besichtigung-halbzeit-2.jpg)   P.S: We use a TRENDNET TV-IP310PI   with best Regards from Roberto  Just now, he explained by Skype that their website is presently "offline - as we move our webspace to a more powerful server ;) "

I suggested "You might also take a photo of that portion of the ceiling in relation to the demo to show there is no safety light situated there."

He said he would.
/END OF BLOG EXCERPT

So, those of you who jumped to the conclusion that this was absolute evidence of fraud, how do you feel now, being shown wrong on this point? Are you going to apologize?

Hmm.  Waiting for response from Roberto. I asked him:

"In this photo, could you tell me what the circled item is? It looks like a light that you installed, either as part of this demonstration in particular, for showcasing, or for emergency lighting compliance. It appears to be in the right location to provide what appears to be emergency light in the attached image. Maybe it had some kind of LED on it?"

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Re: Rosch taking orders on OU Bouyancy device.
« Reply #238 on: April 30, 2015, 06:41:06 PM »
@MHHave you been drinking MH, the metals tensile strength does not magically change with size.
AC
I think he is talking about maximum load versus cantilever length. 

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« Reply #239 on: April 30, 2015, 07:22:30 PM »
I have already answered this question. Lets have a look at that NIST report-along with the FEMA report.
FEMA report states that the 767 was traveling at roughly 590MPH when it hit the tower
NIST report states that the 767 was traveling at around 546MPH when it hit the tower

First-what would you say the hight above sea level was where the planes impacted the two towers. Im guessing around 700 feet at best.
It is interesting to note that boeing states that the engines thrust for a 767 at 700 feet would max out at 330MHP,but the plane would begin to shake it self to peices at 220MPH at this altitude due to the density of the air. It's all there in plain !plane! english for you to read.
Jesus H ...  Well maybe if you have the flaps extended.  These silly ideas have been debated many times over the past 13 years.  A 767 does not come apart at 220MPH at sea level.  You've been drinking more of the conspiracy theorist mind altering Kool-Aid.  Go calculate Mach 0.86 at sea level.  It's a lot faster than 220MPH. 
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Like i said before,yes i have read many reports,and like your beloved NIST report,they are just comical,and your very own physics proves them to be incorrect.
The people running around like the Mad Hatter are not the professionals at NIST who carefully investigated and then composed that report.
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Please supply links and pictures of any other steel framed highrise building that has collapsed due to fire.
I just showed you a steel reinforced freeway intersection that failed due to heat from a petrol fire.  Show me how many 1000' or higher buildings have survived a 767 full of fuel crashing into them at 500mph.
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It is a pack of-we dont know what the hell were talking about-->but they seem to be able to defy the laws of physics with there plane speeds.
No it is some really screwed up people bent on conspiracies who do not perform proper investigation who come up with lame ideas like a 767 coming apart at 220mph at sea level.  It is worse than wrong.
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LMAS-are you serious Mark lol. And you say i have my head up my ass. I think you just ploted your own demise. If you cant see the difference between the two situations or circumstances,then maybe grade school would be more up your alley.
I see:  The conspiracy nut Kool-Aid gets you all giddy.
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Unlike some,no-->but you seem to be lacking a bit in the area.

 

Or a specific building in a strange country. Not to forget the 330* spiral dive to line up this extreemly small land mark with the big barn doors.
Really?  You think that one of the largest office buildings ever built is a speck?  Take another swig of that Kool-Aid.
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Just wondering if you could post a clear picture of the impact on the pentagon,and show us all where exactly the wings and engines impacted the building?,and how none of the street signs or structures were hit or damaged as they should have been if a 757 where on such a flight projectory.
Again really?  It's not like the video didn't get released:  http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/video-of-9-11-pentagon-attack/
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Here is a little reserch for you Mark. Find me just one pilot that could execute that flight path with sucess,and then we will move on to the fact that a bloke that couldnt even get his cessna licence due to lack of skills could execute that same flight path with such accuracy
Well you put yourself into a logical pickle with that idea.  If you believe the FDR then the plane flew the path the FDR indicated and either overflew the Pentagon behind an invisible cloaking device to some secret hangar where the passenger and crew were murdered and the evidence destroyed or the plane hit the ground and the building.  Take your pick.
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You truly are a small man Mark,and without heart. Due to his reserch and discoveries(the truth),he was forced out-shuned for doing such reserch.
He is one crazy person who insisted on pressing his unfounded ideas.  His colleagues who actually worked in specialties like structural engineering were some of the ones who complained the most.  Nutty is as nutty does.  You apparently partake that Kool-Aid which I find disappointing.  But, there you go.
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It has nothing to do with his abilities as a physicist. He(unlike you) was able to open his eyes,and show courage in what he did. He is 10x's the man you will ever be,and i now know what sort of a person you really are. Your a closed book,and your HD is full-no room for new data with you. You are old school etched,and have no room for the truth or the new that go's against what you think is correct. Well i got some bad news for ya-->the walls are closing in,and soon there going to smack you right between the eye's. Your little world is going to come crashing down around you. This may knock some sense into you,but i have the feeling that you will just go off line. Like i said before,you belittle everyone you think is beneath you,but when one of the big guns takes you on,you never take up the challenge-you hide like the small man you are.
You're getting nuttier and nuttier.