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Author Topic: Rosch taking orders on OU Bouyancy device.  (Read 145994 times)

Offline tinman

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Re: Rosch taking orders on OU Bouyancy device.
« Reply #180 on: April 30, 2015, 07:27:06 AM »
It is disheartening to see you implode this way.  Complete your project.  Maybe then you will learn.  God knows you have your eyes wide shut right now.
What is disheartening Mark,is when those that you thought were there to help you,are only interested in seeing what you have,and how you are getting the results you are getting when the results seem to defy what they believe in. You were happy with the tests until such time as the results went against your beliefs,then you put up the ultimatum-->show me what you have,or no more measurement calculations-when nothing about the measurements change. We had what we always had-gas pressure,temperature and tank volume.

I havnt stopped doing my test,the only difference now is i have some one else doing the calculations for me-->some one that dosnt need to see the device to calculate given measurements.

The venturi effect dose add energy to a system,and this i have shown in two ways now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fQkEp0iDGo

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Re: Rosch taking orders on OU Bouyancy device.
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Re: Rosch taking orders on OU Bouyancy device.
« Reply #181 on: April 30, 2015, 07:32:11 AM »
What is disheartening Mark,is when those that you thought were there to help you,are only interested in seeing what you have,and how you are getting the results you are getting when the results seem to defi what they believe in. You were happy with the tests until such time as the results went against your beliefs,then you put up the ultimatum-->show me what you have,or no more measurement calculations-when nothing about the measurements change. We had what we always had-gas pressure,temperature and tank volume.

I havnt stopped doing my test,the only difference now is i have some one else doing the calculations for me-->some one that dosnt need to see the device to calculate given measurements.

The venturi effect dose add energy to a system,and this i have shown in two ways now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fQkEp0iDGo
You need to take your experiment to the end.  Generate enough work to return to your starting state with even just a scintilla left over.  Then you will have something remarkable.  What your apparatus does is move energy.  Some of that energy moved is from the local atmosphere.  Such is the operation of a heat pump.  If you are intent on staying warm or trying to cool off, heat pumps can be very useful devices.  If you are intent on performing kinetic work, they don't help.  It seems that the only way that you will learn is to take your experiments to their logical conclusion where you compare useful work done.

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Re: Rosch taking orders on OU Bouyancy device.
« Reply #182 on: April 30, 2015, 07:36:18 AM »
@Mark EScience observes and studies natural phenomena while the inventor uses knowledge and understanding to create what others could not possibly imagine. The inventor makes fantasy reality and this has been proven throughout history. They invented the locomotive, the car, the airplane, the rocket and they will carry on inventing things in the future which others cannot possibly imagine and think is fantasy...that's the way it has been proven to work Mark. Your vote does not count and you don't actually have a say in the future because it is defined by whatever the inventors can dream up and make reality. I understand you have a great sense of self-importance but your nobody until such time as you become part of a solution to make things better in reality. Any fool can tell other people something cannot be done but some inventor somewhere always seems to show people different and this is the way it has always been.
 To be honest I find you guys kind of comical because you pretend to be some kind of authority and yet you have absolutely none, you are nobody so far as the future is concerned. People will understand new things and they will invent new things we could not possibly imagine and that is a fact which has been proven throughout our history. Let's put it this way, where do you think we will be 1000 years from now?, I will give you a little hint... based on how far we have come in the last 100 years you and most everything you know will be completely irrelevant and you will be seen in the same light as we look at chimpanzees. Right now due to the exponential growth of knowledge a person enroled in a 4 year university technology program will graduate to find 90% of what they were taught during that time is now obsolete. Put's a whole new spin on things doesn't it?.
 
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Fantasy is not reality.  Fantasy sometimes inspires talented people to develop new and wonderful technologies.  If you do not comprehend the distinction that is unfortunate for you.

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Re: Rosch taking orders on OU Bouyancy device.
« Reply #182 on: April 30, 2015, 07:36:18 AM »
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Re: Is the motor and generator atop the Rosch's KPP actually a QMoGen?
« Reply #183 on: April 30, 2015, 07:38:35 AM »
Any physicist that isn't a few eggs short of a dozen will tell you that there is no such thing as "free-fall speed".  There is acceleration due to gravity.  And there is velocity dependent viscous friction with air that changes with atmospheric conditions.  For a given vertical drag coefficient a terminal velocity exists that is reached after falling for a sufficient time.  For skydivers jumping around 10,000' that's about five seconds and almost 1000' drop.

To find out what happened physically to buildings damaged and destroyed at the WTC on 9/11 you could always read the NIST report.  That report was written by knowledgeable people who evaluated the evidence in detail.  And contrary to your evil and unfounded accusations not one of those people is part of the heinous cover-up plot that you allege without a shred of evidence.  You accuse those people of being part of a plot to cover up the murder of thousands of their country mates.  Consider how you will explain the false witness you've born and continue to bear when you eventually face your creator.

Okay, so you're also among the "show me the data" crowd who believe the "official" 9/11 lies. Pathetic.

Building 7 came down in classic demolition manner. Anyone can see that. No college degree required.

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Re: Rosch taking orders on OU Bouyancy device.
« Reply #184 on: April 30, 2015, 07:43:48 AM »
You have been taken in by SHT just as badly as you were taken in by Mylow.  The third party tests performed for SHT did not establish an input / output energy balance.  They did not establish their claim that they convert water to hydrogen gram for gram.  The test reports published reported on:  1) Electricity supply to the unit under test, 2) Gas outflow volume, and 3) Chemical analysis of the outflow. 

What you seem to gloss over every time is that SHT's device uses a metal consummable that they admit is part of an oxidation reduction reaction evolving hydrogen.  That admission alone kills the gram for gram water to hydrogen claim, independent of the absurdity of the notion that they would transmute an oxygen atom consisting of 8 N, 8P, 8e to 16 hydrogen atoms of 1P + 1e each.  All fission for elements lighter than iron is energetically unfavorable.  That means that if SHT's claims were true, the energy value of hydrogen to oxidize  would be many orders of magnitude smaller than the nuclear energy imparted to fission the oxygen.  SHT's crack team would have you believe that they have a process that turns sand into small sapphires that just happens to make Hope sized diamonds as a side effect.

Rossi is yet another scam artist.  After more than four years of claims, and three years of supposedly delivering those trailer load MW power plants he still shivers each winter in his long coat and propane heated offices in Bologna.

Euthenasia, is a good name for you. Apt for your pseudonym. How much do you get paid to do this disinfo?

There are huge differences between Mylow and SHT. He was alone. SHT is filled with guys, the lest intelligent of which is smarter than you; and I see you as being very smart, though much of that could be from working in some kind of intel team, and it's not just you that is being represented as just you.

Yes, they have some chemistry among their 16 processes, but it isn't the sole source, and it certainly isn't a scam. You don't get that many smart people in on a scam. Usually not even one.

People should weigh your judgement ability by the fact that you buy the NIST report, which is the biggest fraud ever, which is obvious to any honest person.

My dad, David W. Allan, worked at NIST and still speaks there annually, going next month. He's a leading atomic clock physicist, and he agrees with my assessment of the NIST report on 911 being a fraud. He's good friends with Steven E. Jones. Saw him last week. Intentional community project together.

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Re: Rosch taking orders on OU Bouyancy device.
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Re: Rosch taking orders on OU Bouyancy device.
« Reply #185 on: April 30, 2015, 07:44:25 AM »
To prove that you're "full of it" on the pathological skeptic end of the spectrum, let me cite AN example that obliterates what you just said.

SHT has had three third-party tests by highly reputable organizations doing quantitative analysis showing ~500x, ~1300x, and ~900x output. Four third-party tests showing ~97% H output, from H2O input.

Also, Rossi has had considerable testing done, not to mention that his technology was purchased by Industrial Heat, as part of a 2 billion dollar fund, if I remember right, after 1 year due diligence.

You're like the Wright Brothers skeptics who for four years continued to say heavier-than-air flight would not be possible, despite the FACT that they were flying around doing demonstrations. Now that is obvious, then it wasn't. Guess where I would have been back then... Versus you...
No Sterling-->it is you that is(and always has been)full of sh*t. You took other peoples money ,and went on your little vacations with nothing to show in the end-->every time.
You think im full of it,then please show us all a looped system running itself with excess energy left over-->you never have,and you never will-that is fact.

You are sick,and you need help-->or just locked up to keep us all safe.

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SHT has had three third-party tests by highly reputable organizations doing quantitative analysis showing ~500x, ~1300x, and ~900x output.

The only letter missing in SHT is the I,and that is what it is.
Any thing you post is never third party tested by anyone that knows what there doing-->your record speaks for itself. 500 X the input hey,cool-no problem there to perform a self looped system,and have 499% of the input left to do work. This will be another device you cannot back up-->just as you have not been able to do since you started on your crowd funded holidays.

The only thing you have ever gotten right is that 911 was an inside job. Maybe you should stick with that,and leave your epic fails behind you.

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Re: Rosch taking orders on OU Bouyancy device.
« Reply #186 on: April 30, 2015, 07:51:19 AM »
You need to take your experiment to the end.  Generate enough work to return to your starting state with even just a scintilla left over.  Then you will have something remarkable.  What your apparatus does is move energy.  Some of that energy moved is from the local atmosphere.  Such is the operation of a heat pump.  If you are intent on staying warm or trying to cool off, heat pumps can be very useful devices.  If you are intent on performing kinetic work, they don't help.  It seems that the only way that you will learn is to take your experiments to their logical conclusion where you compare useful work done.
Mark
I can only do so much in a given amount of time. I simply dont have a money tree out in the back yard,so i do what i can when i can. I have managed to achieve good results with what i have so far,and the results can only get better given the equipment i need. As im doing it off my own back,i simply have to wait for the funds to become avaliable. As much as i'd like to be able to complete the whole system in a couple of day's,it just isnt going to happen. I got the effect and results i was looking for with the venturi setup,and i got better results with the venturi removed,and the ram put into place. ATM this is as far as i can go until i have the rest of the equipment.

If it fails,then it is only my loss. If it works,then it is everyones gain.

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Re: Rosch taking orders on OU Bouyancy device.
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Re: Rosch taking orders on OU Bouyancy device.
« Reply #187 on: April 30, 2015, 07:53:37 AM »
No Sterling-->it is you that is(and always has been)full of sh*t. You took other peoples money ,and went on your little vacations with nothing to show in the end-->every time.

The only thing you have ever gotten right is that 911 was an inside job.

Tinman, they weren't "vacations." I worked my butt off. Even when we went to Fabrice Andre's place, I was publishing stories about what was going on as we were there. Only took an hour to walk around the mountain top.

Yildiz is likely to eventually make it. I still think he's for real.

In my world, the glass is half full, not the other way around.

Glad to hear you're clued into 9/11 being an inside job. Says a lot.

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Re: Is the motor and generator atop the Rosch's KPP actually a QMoGen?
« Reply #188 on: April 30, 2015, 07:53:38 AM »

Building 7 came down in classic demolition manner. Anyone can see that. No college degree required.
This much is true.
One also has to wonder as to why traces of thermite was found all around the collaps buildings.

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Re: Is the motor and generator atop the Rosch's KPP actually a QMoGen?
« Reply #189 on: April 30, 2015, 07:56:30 AM »
Okay, so you're also among the "show me the data" crowd who believe the "official" 9/11 lies. Pathetic.

Building 7 came down in classic demolition manner. Anyone can see that. No college degree required.
I believe the NIST report researched and written by the: skilled, upstanding, and patriotic men and women who work for the same organization where your own father spent his career.  I've read the report.  Have you?.

Building 7 failed because of massive damage done when it was struck by debris from WTC1 and fires that burned uncontrolled on Floors 7, 8, 9, 11, 12, and 13 throughout the day.  Just prior to the collapse there is footage with a lone reporter at Barclay and West Broadway.  The fires shooting out of the building over Broadway were in a word:  ferocious.  He and his camera man were right there to the collapse, eventually running for their lives.  Contrary to your conspiracy theory there is no sound of sequential explosives as used in a controlled demolition.  The building failed first near where the reporter was and subsequently failures spread out.  The camera footage you like to point to views the building looking at it from the north west which failed last.  If only you spent half the time you spend screaming controlled demolition watching the available footage and studying the NIST report you would realize just how wrong you are.  Maybe you can ask Jesus to bring a structural engineer with him to supper and they can disabuse you of this fantasy you insist upon.

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Re: Is the motor and generator atop the Rosch's KPP actually a QMoGen?
« Reply #190 on: April 30, 2015, 07:57:54 AM »
This much is true.
One also has to wonder as to why traces of thermite was found all around the collaps buildings.
You mean you wonder why a steel framed building that had 200,000 pounds of aluminum crash into it and huge aluminum facades had aluminum and iron in its debris?

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Re: Rosch taking orders on OU Bouyancy device.
« Reply #191 on: April 30, 2015, 08:00:13 AM »

 


Glad to hear you're clued into 9/11 being an inside job. Says a lot.

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Yildiz is likely to eventually make it. I still think he's for real.

Even though he claimed to have a working device when in fact,he didnt.

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In my world, the glass is half full, not the other way around.

There is a simple answer to this. If you are drinking from the glass,the glass become's half empty at on point. If you are refilling the glass,the glass becomes half full at one point. It's the same when drawing power from a battery,or recharging that battery.

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Re: Rosch taking orders on OU Bouyancy device.
« Reply #192 on: April 30, 2015, 08:08:28 AM »
Euthenasia, is a good name for you. Apt for your pseudonym. How much do you get paid to do this disinfo?
So once again you just make up accusations that you cannot support.  You bear false witness as easily as breathing.
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There are huge differences between Mylow and SHT. He was alone. SHT is filled with guys, the lest intelligent of which is smarter than you.
Whatever the intelligence of any of SHT's employees may be their claims are patently false, just as Mylow's claims were patently false.  As with Mylow they have released misleading information in order to promote their absurd claims.  As with Mylow, it is just a matter of time before their tent folds up and blows away.  As with Mylow you have accepted the BS:  hook, line, and sinker.
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Yes, they have some chemistry among their 16 processes, but it isn't the sole source, and it certainly isn't a scam. You don't get that many smart people in on a scam. Usually not even one.
Was Bernie Maddoff a moron?  Were the people working for him morons?  How about the boys and girls at Enron?  Do you think they were dull knives?  They were highly educated, and by all accounts highly intelligent.  What mattered is that they were also corrupt.
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People should weigh your judgement ability by the fact that you buy the NIST report, which is the biggest fraud ever, which is obvious to any honest person.
Show your evidence.  Show that the hundreds of signatories to that report are corrupt and / or addle minded.  If WTC7 was taken down by controlled demolition as you claim then how do you account for the fact that there were no sequenced explosion sounds heard on the live news feed taken right in front of the building?  Hush a boom?  Nitro whispering?
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My dad, David W. Allan, worked at NIST and still speaks there annually, going next month. He's a leading atomic clock physicist, and he agrees with my assessment of the NIST report on 911 being a fraud. He's good friends with Steven E. Jones. Saw him last week. Intentional community project together.
So your dad accuses his ex colleagues of being co-conspirators in a mass murder?  I tell you what:  Why don't you get a camera and go visit the authors of the NIST report one by one and share your accusation with them face to face?

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Re: Is the motor and generator atop the Rosch's KPP actually a QMoGen?
« Reply #193 on: April 30, 2015, 08:16:34 AM »
You mean you wonder why a steel framed building that had 200,000 pounds of aluminum crash into it and huge aluminum facades had aluminum and iron in its debris?
No,im talking about thermite residue found blocks away in the settled dust. The engine on the ground below the WTC was the wrong engine for the planes that supposedly hit the WTC. Science has proved beyound doubt that the planes impact could not have brought down those buildings-period. The black smoke shows the fires were starved for oxygen,and so the temperatures from those fires wouldt be any higher than it's maximum temperature that 1800*F. Steel needs around 2500*F to melt. So why so much melted steel found in the basements of the building's?

You may think this video is funny,but it is the truth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLXyB5GtfBU

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Re: Rosch taking orders on OU Bouyancy device.
« Reply #194 on: April 30, 2015, 08:21:21 AM »
QuoteMilehigh'If the tech is real, it's not free energy, it's atomic energy.  I know that you know that but so many people refer to it as free energy.  Rossi has a very shaky reputation so I can hope it's real'

If this is true then we should be fried in a shower of gamma and x-radiation proportionate to energy excess.youshould go read axil's and others' latest entries on ecatworld concerning zero point field
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