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Author Topic: Is there any mechanic devide that works?  (Read 24996 times)

ayeaye

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Re: Is there any mechanic devide that works?
« Reply #45 on: May 22, 2015, 05:16:11 PM »
Overunity is just an energy coming from an unknown source. Once we know the source, it is not overunity any more. And no matter what energy forms we look at, when energy comes one way, then it also decreases in the other way, so there is no total increase of energy. Everything in the reality is in balance, because of the law of rhythm, not only energy.

One more thing. I think the field lines are like thunderbolts coming from a particle, they are constantly renewed, and this is how the particles interact with each other. In the discrete network of the quantum world. So it is not necessary to find a physical cause, it is just a discrete processing which happens in a certain way. Things happen the way they do just because they do. One may find some geometric regularities though, because it is about a geometric structure.

ayeaye

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Re: Is there any mechanic devide that works?
« Reply #46 on: May 23, 2015, 06:28:44 PM »
The earth would be 16 times larger etc. What we do know is that the energy balance in the universe is pretty much balanced on a constant value.
The sun generates a huge amount of energy all the time, why doesn't that increase the earth mass?

ayeaye

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Re: Is there any mechanic devide that works?
« Reply #47 on: June 04, 2015, 02:21:33 PM »
I now should say that i cannot say whether this electrostatic device can work or not. Because there is not so much we know about electrostatic field. Like, the force may depend on the speed of interaction, rather than the amount of charge. May or may not. The problem with that experiment is though that the theory is not explained well enough, and this makes it kind of worthless. One cannot say what it all depends on, or what shape all its elements should be, like that sharp point ball, or whatever it should be. Maybe only not clear for me, but then also certainly not for many others. May be a great thing, may not be. If so, maybe i should understand more, or maybe something is not explained that should be explained. But whatever it is, as such it is worthless for me by now.

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Re: Is there any mechanic devide that works?
« Reply #48 on: June 12, 2015, 09:47:34 PM »
The sun generates a huge amount of energy all the time, why doesn't that increase the earth mass?
The potential energy in the sun decrease all the time, and loose it by radiation and mass eruptions.
The sun has fuel that has been there all the time. This fuel is burned up in a process called fusion. Fusion of hydrogen atoms release wast amount of energy because helium cannot keep the whole mass from both hydrogen atoms. This mass will radiate as electromagnetic waves. So the sun radiates energy that rest inside it's mass.


1g of mass contains 89875523869531,024 Joule of energy. If all of that tiny mass was transformed into useful energy you could power 1500 housholds for one year. So yes, matter contains lots of energy :-)


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Re: Is there any mechanic devide that works?
« Reply #49 on: June 12, 2015, 10:57:18 PM »
I think as the universe continues to expand the amount of available power is diminishing , overunity is impossible, using more of the available energy sources ,that we don't even realize are there, thats the answer.
 since it's all based on theory.
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Re: Is there any mechanic devide that works?
« Reply #50 on: June 25, 2015, 06:50:55 PM »
This is all the little i know about that. A metal sphere or a toroid with a pin on it, gathers electrons from the air, and the electrons are pushed out through that pin. I think it works in Tesla coil so, it likely ionizes the air around that ball. But in Tesla coil the electrons are forced out of that sphere by current. I don't know that it causes any flow of electrons just like that, without any external force, and i don't know that anyone has ever found it. I think in that device, if it can ever work, there had to be two of these spheres with a pin. One towards the plates with the pin, and the other towards the plates with the sphere. This at least made sense to me. Though i doubt that without touching the electrons move from one object to the other, unless they are forced. If one can provide ant further evidence about all that, then that would be good of course.

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Re: Is there any mechanic devide that works?
« Reply #51 on: June 25, 2015, 07:59:39 PM »
I found it in youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-AqL-8RGNc )  comments. It could be useful for someone:


 beforebefore    1 month ago    Some things to consider… and/or try…   First, consider this: Triboelectric charges:  https://www.trifield.com/content/tribo-electric-series/ (there are many of these charts available, and many have slight variances – determining this charge affinity is not an exact science)   Wood is nearly neutral, with a triboelectric affinity charge of around +7, Polystyrene is highly negative, at around -70… resulting in a charge difference of about 77.   Your version (as shown) has 0 difference… same materials throughout. The Styrofoam (foamed polystyrene) would have been a good material! (-70).  Teflon is the best, at -190.   The other guy’s “disc” looks like corrugated polystyrene board… which is fairly common, called “corrugated plastic” or “plastic cardboard” at hobby stores, home depot, etc. Commonly used as front yard signs, supported by wire-frame supports. He may have used 2-3 layers, glued together to get it thick enough.   Van de Graaff generators are a source of info on electrostatic charge redistribution. Charge collectors use several pointed tips, often guys use frayed-out stranded wires for this, all trimmed to the same length.   I believe you may need to modify your “long curved conductor” a bit, getting rid of any sharp transitions, edges, etc. round-off every edge… wrap the copper foil over the edges… this is common-practice in electrostatic charge experiments… but then again, may not make any difference in this device.   It still seems (as already mentioned) that the charges need a path to flow… possibly there is a single 50-gauge hidden wire strand connecting the metal “charge redistribution” parts. Wood is a better conductor than polycarbonate… but not by much!   “Positive” charges tend to rise up, away from the positively charged Earth. He says as the conductive plates pass by the sharp conductors (“pointy things”), the alum. plates become Positively charged… and if so, they rise, causing spin (but opposite to the direction you spun this one in this video)    If this is what happens, the pointy conductors are taking a negative charge.   If this all holds true, then the long strip conductor then re-deposits the negative charges onto the foil strips (alum or copper, no matter), which causes that “side” of the disc to be drawn towards the earth.   HOWEVER… if this is what’s happening, then the curved conductor should be located much higher on that “side” of the disc… in the upper-quadrant, not the lower-quadrant… so that it can re-deposit the negative charges sooner, causing more rotational torque. Likewise, even the “pointy” tips should be located lower on that side of the disc, giving the now-positively charged alum/copper plated more time to create upwards ‘lift’… so to speak.   IMHO… and IF this thing really works… the “timing” should be such that the two charge transfers should occur 180° out of phase… if that makes any sense.