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Author Topic: Is there any mechanic devide that works?  (Read 17743 times)

Offline ayeaye

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Re: Is there any mechanic devide that works?
« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2015, 02:27:11 PM »
Otherwise, this guy would have a Nobel Prize.
Why is it believed that there would be a Nobel Prize? People live in so many illusions. Do you think that when you can sing well, then a recording company finds you, and you become famous? Things don't happen that way, not in the world where we live. Better not to let people to find it out the hard way.

This has nothing to do with whether that device works or not. It has to be replicated and tested in several locations by several people, before there is any reason to say that it works. But if it were a real thing, that man would die because of poverty.

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Re: Is there any mechanic devide that works?
« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2015, 07:22:34 PM »
@ ayeaye
there it's nothing new, to asymmetrical distribute static charge on disk you need on one side sharp conductors, on another side flat conductors. to create this asymmetry you don't need waste the energy. for this reason static charge is universal mater for free energy

there it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPm31Zv9Ujk

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Re: Is there any mechanic devide that works?
« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2015, 08:43:18 PM »
The testatika
Has a coil in the center
Has a none ferrous core
The blades rotate in the equatorial plane of the coil
The testatika is an energy mill

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Re: Is there any mechanic devide that works?
« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2015, 08:43:18 PM »
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Re: Is there any mechanic devide that works?
« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2015, 08:52:57 PM »
The testatika
Has a coil in the center
Has a none ferrous core
The blades rotate in the equatorial plane of the coil
The testatika is an energy mill

Too bad it has never been proven to actually work.

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Re: Is there any mechanic devide that works?
« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2015, 10:07:40 PM »
in static electricity no needed coils. there coil was to hide how it works or transform dc/ac. I think if connect capacitor to sharp and flat conductors, capacitor will be charged.

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Re: Is there any mechanic devide that works?
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Is there any mechanic devide that works?
« Reply #20 on: May 10, 2015, 03:34:15 AM »
Hmmm....

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Re: Is there any mechanic devide that works?
« Reply #21 on: May 10, 2015, 04:12:36 AM »
Man you dont mess around  :)
I spend a week thinking about something before I ever begin to build.
Looks good

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Re: Is there any mechanic devide that works?
« Reply #21 on: May 10, 2015, 04:12:36 AM »
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Offline ayeaye

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Re: Is there any mechanic devide that works?
« Reply #22 on: May 10, 2015, 04:35:58 AM »
Tinsel must have his own institute to make replications so quickly.

This, btw, is not a Wimshurst machine. Wimshurst machine works by generating charges by moving the plates past each other. Interestingly there, the induction of charges by itself takes no energy, but moving charges in relation to each other takes energy. Testatika is a Wimshurst machine, but whether any elements of that device are also used in Testatika, i don't know.

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Re: Is there any mechanic devide that works?
« Reply #23 on: May 10, 2015, 04:47:46 AM »
I think if connect capacitor to sharp and flat conductors, capacitor will be charged.
If that's so simple, then why don't you try that?

The things which are too simple, it is questionable whether they work though. Why, because during the long history someone did already stumble upon them.

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Re: Is there any mechanic devide that works?
« Reply #23 on: May 10, 2015, 04:47:46 AM »
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Re: Is there any mechanic devide that works?
« Reply #24 on: May 10, 2015, 05:17:30 AM »
@ TinselKoala
there is sharp conductor from video

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Re: Is there any mechanic devide that works?
« Reply #25 on: May 10, 2015, 06:36:25 AM »
Yes, I can see that... but can you tell me how that is "sharp" ?

sharpSHärp/adjectiveadjective: sharp; comparative adjective: sharper; superlative adjective: sharpest
1. (of an object) having an edge or point that is able to cut or pierce something."cut the cake with a very sharp knife"
2.  tapering to a point or edge."a sharp pencil"

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Re: Is there any mechanic devide that works?
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Re: Is there any mechanic devide that works?
« Reply #26 on: May 10, 2015, 06:57:10 AM »
Tinsel must have his own institute to make replications so quickly.
Yes, I skipped the basket-weaving class today....
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This, btw, is not a Wimshurst machine. Wimshurst machine works by generating charges by moving the plates past each other. Interestingly there, the induction of charges by itself takes no energy, but moving charges in relation to each other takes energy. Testatika is a Wimshurst machine, but whether any elements of that device are also used in Testatika, i don't know.
Yes, this is not a Wimshurst machine, it is a Franklin-type or corona ES motor.
No, a Wimshurst machine does not "generate" charge, it _separates_ positive from negative charge and moves those onto its capacities (the "prime conductors" and/or its Leyden jars or other capacitors) for storage. You could say that it "generates" a potential, or tension, aka voltage, by separating charges. But electrical charge is a conserved quantity, it cannot be "generated", created or destroyed.
Yes and no, it's a moot point whether electrostatic induction or the motion of charges takes energy, since the two processes go hand in hand. As the tension (voltage) builds in an electrostatic generator, whether Wimshust, Bonetti, Dirod or other, it takes more and more work to provide the necessary motion to the moving parts.
No, Testatika is _not_ a Wimshurst machine, it only superficially resembles one. Recall that there are (claimed) single-disk Testatikas, and that Wimshurst machines are DC, with "left half" positive and "right half" negative (or vice versa) rather than opposite polarity disks, whereas Baumann has said that in the 2-disk Testatika, one disk is "cloud" and the other is "earth", and they are AC-output machines... and the frequency of the output depends on the number of sectors on the disks (allegedly). Furthermore, there are so many sharp edges and surface current paths in a Testatika that it could not sustain the high voltages necessary for electrostatic generator action. Whatever the Testatika actually is, it is unlikely to be any kind of _real_ electrostatic machine.

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Re: Is there any mechanic devide that works?
« Reply #27 on: May 10, 2015, 11:16:56 AM »

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Re: Is there any mechanic devide that works?
« Reply #28 on: May 10, 2015, 11:34:05 AM »
@ TinselKoala
you don't see. you are wasting time on wrong construction. you have 1 sharp point. on the video is round sharp edge and bigger attraction force.

there you are showing how easy to build   not working device.

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Re: Is there any mechanic devide that works?
« Reply #29 on: May 10, 2015, 11:45:05 AM »
@ TinselKoala
you don't see. you are wasting time on wrong construction. you have 1 sharp point. on the video is round sharp edge and bigger attraction force.

there you are showing how easy to build   not working device.

TK hasnt said it dosnt work yet-or has he/,-i didnt see that he said it didnt work,which brings mystery  :o

i would suspect at this time,he is trying to generate enough static charge to get the machine to spin loll.

ORRRRRR-it is working,and he is still sitting there watching his first free energy machine spinning away lol.

 

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