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Offline profitis

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Re: Gadolinium Magnet Generator.
« Reply #165 on: April 21, 2015, 09:01:56 PM »
Do this on a day that is around 16-22 celcius temp especially

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Re: Gadolinium Magnet Generator.
« Reply #166 on: April 21, 2015, 09:07:10 PM »
To test if you have real gadolinium,shove the edge of coin into some pool acid.it should fizzle instantly lots bubbles.do this only for a few seconds then rinse,dry

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Re: Gadolinium Magnet Generator.
« Reply #167 on: April 21, 2015, 10:20:09 PM »
I will do all those things and report back along the way.

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Re: Gadolinium Magnet Generator.
« Reply #168 on: April 21, 2015, 10:43:08 PM »
Excellento

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Re: Gadolinium Magnet Generator.
« Reply #169 on: April 21, 2015, 11:21:54 PM »
@nestor89 - what I meant to ask is - can GD become a permanent magnet below its curie point?
yes
magnatized means turned into permanent magnet
ferromagnetic elements may be turned into permanent magnets below curie temp

reason elementary magnets remain aligned in ferromagnetic state unntil heated up or shooked

in paramagnetic state elementary magnets do not remain alinged but disorder as soon as external magnetic field is put away

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Re: Gadolinium Magnet Generator.
« Reply #170 on: April 21, 2015, 11:29:10 PM »
@profitis - thanks as always for your reply. Would the GD return to a perm mag after rising above its curie?

no above ct the alignment of the elementary magnets disappear
if you cool down the probe the alignment will not come back ( unless magnetic field is applied again)

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Re: Gadolinium Magnet Generator.
« Reply #171 on: April 22, 2015, 03:45:26 AM »
One thing I think would be worthwhile is to experiment around attaching a 10 mm
cube of gadolinium to the lower boiler of the "dipping bird".  I would attach it on the
outside of the glass, first to see if one can see any changes to bird behavior. On an
individual gd cube basis the energies seem similar.  The weight of the cube could be
counter balanced by adding lead solder to the top part of the bird.  One thing I would do
is to build an "alcohol swamp" inside a double walled container to see if one can shut down
the dipping bird by equalizing pressure and temperatures of its atmospheric contents.
This may come in handy in the future.

Once one has exhausted behavioral studies it may be time to go internal with
the cube so it is in direct contact with the birds refrigerant. I have come up with an
easy way to do this. Etch the circular glass dome with fluoric acid by careful timing
then stop the etch process, then carefully break the thin glass shell away. Fix the cube
in another piece of partial test-tube and attach the glass piece with an appropriate adhesive.
While the pieces are apart give the bird a "transfusion" of methyl chloride refrigerant.
The dipping bird is essentially a thermometer so interesting things should be seen to
happen if the magnets don't drag on the birds body.

If the bird now has become difficult to stop in its alcohol swamp it may be time to
see if companies would like to build a newer version of the dipping bird. The dipping
bird with extended functionality.   :)

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Re: Gadolinium Magnet Generator.
« Reply #172 on: April 22, 2015, 06:49:25 AM »
One thing I think would be worthwhile is to experiment around attaching a 10 mm
cube of gadolinium to the lower boiler of the "dipping bird".  I would attach it on the
outside of the glass, first to see if one can see any changes to bird behavior. On an
individual gd cube basis the energies seem similar.  The weight of the cube could be
counter balanced by adding lead solder to the top part of the bird.  One thing I would do
is to build an "alcohol swamp" inside a double walled container to see if one can shut down
the dipping bird by equalizing pressure and temperatures of its atmospheric contents.
This may come in handy in the future.

Once one has exhausted behavioral studies it may be time to go internal with
the cube so it is in direct contact with the birds refrigerant. I have come up with an
easy way to do this. Etch the circular glass dome with fluoric acid by careful timing
then stop the etch process, then carefully break the thin glass shell away. Fix the cube
in another piece of partial test-tube and attach the glass piece with an appropriate adhesive.
While the pieces are apart give the bird a "transfusion" of methyl chloride refrigerant.
The dipping bird is essentially a thermometer so interesting things should be seen to
happen if the magnets don't drag on the birds body.

If the bird now has become difficult to stop in its alcohol swamp it may be time to
see if companies would like to build a newer version of the dipping bird. The dipping
bird with extended functionality.   :)

..S..MarkSCoffman

Not a bad idea but, beware...there is a lot of stress in that thin glass used in those birds.  The one I used in my video using the bird's movement to charge a supercap exploded one day when I accidentally bumped into my table and the bird fell over on its side.  There were glass fragments everywhere and none larger than a cornflake.  It was a real mess cleaning up that fluid as well.

Just a warning.

Bill

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Re: Gadolinium Magnet Generator.
« Reply #173 on: April 23, 2015, 03:11:50 AM »
Hi! Profitis

I have an idea.  Suppose we have a cylinder of gadolinium metal with a hollow
in the center. The concept would be to have two chemical reactions. The first
would be an exothermic reation and a produce positive delta temperature pulse
that would drive the gadolinium above its curie temperature turning its magnetic
attractiveness off.

The second would be an endothermic reation creating a negative delta temperature
pulse that would turn gadolinium metal attractiveness back on. During the rest of the
time of these two cycles the chemical reactions would be recharged and excess heat
eliminated.

This would use a small amount of energy to let gadolinium step over the "sticky spot"
in magnetic wheels and vgates ect.

The first reaction is an HHO reaction cycle, electrolysis and piezo HV trigger, and combustion.

I was wondering if you use the specs for the HHO reaction, is there any rapid powerful
endothermic chemical reactions that would work the same way?  But could be used opposite
the HHO discharged/recharge reaction? I happen to like those N tripple-bond switches used
in creating Azide gases.

Any good endothermic chemical reactions up your sleeve?


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Re: Gadolinium Magnet Generator.
« Reply #174 on: April 23, 2015, 04:26:38 AM »
As I understand it the difference in attraction to a magnet by Gd doesn't really vary much from below to above its Curie point. If you want to use something that actually does change a lot, use Nickel. Its Curie point is quite a bit higher but still in range that you can attain by chemical reactions or focussed sunlight.

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Re: Gadolinium Magnet Generator.
« Reply #175 on: April 23, 2015, 04:48:15 AM »
As I understand it the difference in attraction to a magnet by Gd doesn't really vary much from below to above its Curie point. If you want to use something that actually does change a lot, use Nickel. Its Curie point is quite a bit higher but still in range that you can attain by chemical reactions or focussed sunlight.

ok. thank you tk.

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Re: Gadolinium Magnet Generator.
« Reply #176 on: April 23, 2015, 06:48:32 AM »
ok. thank you tk.

ct of nickel is 360 C.

neodym magnet looses magnetization around 80 C and ferrit magnet around 250 C

I do not know how magnetic paramagnetic nickel will be above ct. however i think with the means available to us it does only make sense to use gd for fun experiments.

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Re: Gadolinium Magnet Generator.
« Reply #177 on: April 23, 2015, 07:43:14 AM »
@markscoffman yes I've got some great ideas to try with chemicals for example two pieces gadolinum in washing soda solution should be fairly passivated by the insoluble oxide layer and thus should yield interesting result on the meter if we pass a magnet back-n-forward over one electrode.lanthanum (in zippo lighter-flints) becomes amazingly passive in solutions of alkali and lanthanum is a direct relative of gadolinium.I'l be damned if we can pickup a voltage reading from two gadolinium electrodes with a STATIONARY magnet.but let's see what result ekim gets with the coils first before plunging into chemistry.

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Re: Gadolinium Magnet Generator.
« Reply #178 on: April 23, 2015, 08:26:35 AM »
@markscoffman yes I've got some great ideas to try with chemicals for example two pieces gadolinum in washing soda solution should be fairly passivated by the insoluble oxide layer and thus should yield interesting result on the meter if we pass a magnet back-n-forward over one electrode.lanthanum (in zippo lighter-flints) becomes amazingly passive in solutions of alkali and lanthanum is a direct relative of gadolinium.I'l be damned if we can pickup a voltage reading from two gadolinium electrodes with a STATIONARY magnet.but let's see what result ekim gets with the coils first before plunging into chemistry.

oxyd layer of gd does not stick to probe but will flake off. gd may therefore not be passivated by oxyd layer


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Re: Gadolinium Magnet Generator.
« Reply #179 on: April 23, 2015, 08:35:40 AM »
Nestor:'oxyd layer of gd does not stick to probe but will flake
off. gd may therefore not be passivated by oxyd layer'

The rate of flake-off may be slowed down under alkali.remember,atmospheric air has co2 and water in it,acidic,corrosive,penetrating

 

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