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Author Topic: Gadolinium Magnet Generator.  (Read 136467 times)

synchro1

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Re: Gadolinium Magnet Generator.
« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2015, 05:07:35 AM »
@Pirate88179,

Try and refrigerate it and see what happens. There're lots of different alloys.

shylo

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Re: Gadolinium Magnet Generator.
« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2015, 01:50:06 PM »
Where is it in old TVs' and fridges, I can't afford 31 dollars a cube.
This is definately worth looking into.
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Re: Gadolinium Magnet Generator.
« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2015, 02:17:55 PM »
Can you seal it inside aluminum?
Put it in an airtight membrane.
Shouldn't be to hard to make it waterproof.
artv
Give it a coat of varnish.

synchro1

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Re: Gadolinium Magnet Generator.
« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2015, 07:01:55 PM »
Give it a coat of varnish.

@Paul-R,

           Brilliant!

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Re: Gadolinium Magnet Generator.
« Reply #19 on: April 04, 2015, 08:22:33 PM »
@Paul-R,

           Brilliant!

Yes, or polyurethane.  It is more of a plastic so it might seal better.

Good idea Paul.

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synchro1

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Re: Gadolinium Magnet Generator.
« Reply #20 on: April 05, 2015, 12:53:53 AM »
I found this video clearly demonstrating Gadolinium´s unique room temperature Curie temperature (above which ferromagnetism vanishes) lying just a room temperature (293.2K) = 68.09º farenheit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrthB0n-Yd4

From Metallium Inc:

http://www.elementsales.com/

Rod 1/2 inch dia
25 Grams, 1 inch long
Price: $58.00 - Purity 99%
Availability: 1 Week

Featured in the video.







synchro1

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Re: Gadolinium Magnet Generator.
« Reply #21 on: April 05, 2015, 02:28:43 AM »
https://www.kjmagnetics.com/products.asp?cat=16

Dimensions: 1" od x 1/4" id x 1" thick
Tolerances: ±0.004" x ±0.004" x ±0.004"
Material: NdFeB, Grade N42
Plating/Coating: Ni-Cu-Ni (Nickel)
Magnetization Direction: Diametrical
Weight: 3.19 oz. (90.5 g)
Pull Force, Case 1: 40.44 lbs
Pull Force, Case 2: 49.01 lbs
Surface Field: 6909 Gauss
Brmax: 13,200 Gauss
BHmax: 42 MGOe

These rings are diametrically magnetized, which means they are magnetized perpendicular to the axis of the hole. The poles are located on opposite sides of the circular faces. They can be placed on a shaft to work with sensors or to generate electricity.

$22.77. Two or more of these same length as the Gadolinium plugs might work well sandwiching the cylinder in opposition. The Gadolinium undergoes it's maximum temperature shift from magnetic field exposure right at the Currie point. A  computer fan and a a pair of light bulbs would complete the magnet generator.

That's a proof of concept setup for under a hundred bucks. The "Madras" prototype "Gadolinium Magnetic Generator" in the video has probably already been bought and suppressed. That would explain why no one has seen any more of it.

Ideally, the Gadolinium cylinder would be attracted into the center of the permanent magnet field at 68.08º Fahrenheit, rise 2/100ths of a degree to 68.10º, lose it's attraction and sail out the other side. The cylinder would then cool and need to pass between the heated bulbs to raise the temperature back up to the threshold level. The rotor speed would depend on the heating interval and would be a function of PM flux density. The bulb heating would need to intensify with speed. The larger the rotor, the more efficient it would run. Two ring magnets would exert over 80 pounds of force on the Gadolinium rotor plug on entry. That's a lot of torque!

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Re: Gadolinium Magnet Generator.
« Reply #22 on: April 05, 2015, 03:37:55 AM »
https://www.kjmagnetics.com/products.asp?cat=16

Dimensions: 1" od x 1/4" id x 1" thick
Tolerances: ±0.004" x ±0.004" x ±0.004"
Material: NdFeB, Grade N42
Plating/Coating: Ni-Cu-Ni (Nickel)
Magnetization Direction: Diametrical
Weight: 3.19 oz. (90.5 g)
Pull Force, Case 1: 40.44 lbs
Pull Force, Case 2: 49.01 lbs
Surface Field: 6909 Gauss
Brmax: 13,200 Gauss
BHmax: 42 MGOe

These rings are diametrically magnetized, which means they are magnetized perpendicular to the axis of the hole. The poles are located on opposite sides of the circular faces. They can be placed on a shaft to work with sensors or to generate electricity.

$22.77. Two or more of these same length as the Gadolinium plugs might work well sandwiching the cylinder in opposition. The Gadolinium undergoes it's maximum temperature shift from magnetic field exposure right at the Currie point. A  computer fan and a a pair of light bulbs would complete the magnet generator.

That's a proof of concept setup for under a hundred bucks. The "Madras" prototype "Gadolinium Magnetic Generator" in the video has probably already been bought and suppressed. That would explain why no one has seen any more of it.

Ideally, the Gadolinium cylinder would be attracted into the center of the permanent magnet field at 68.08º Fahrenheit, rise 2/100ths of a degree to 68.10º, lose it's attraction and sail out the other side. The cylinder would then cool and need to pass between the heated bulbs to raise the temperature back up to the threshold level. The rotor speed would depend on the heating interval and would be a function of PM flux density. The bulb heating would need to intensify with speed. The larger the rotor, the more efficient it would run.

I have some large neos that are diametrically magnetized and look exactly like those photos.  I got them for my JonnyDavro One Magnet No Bearing Bedini experiments.  They are very strong and I can hardly pull them apart as I store them together.

Bill

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Re: Gadolinium Magnet Generator.
« Reply #23 on: April 05, 2015, 04:38:54 AM »
I have some large neos that are diametrically magnetized and look exactly like those photos.  I got them for my JonnyDavro One Magnet No Bearing Bedini experiments.  They are very strong and I can hardly pull them apart as I store them together.

Bill

@Pirate88179,

Order one of those Gadolinium rods for $58. Put it on a pendulum and try and see if you can propel it through the PM field at the Currie point. Try for just the tip of the rod. Maybe try the sample you already have.

synchro1

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Re: Gadolinium Magnet Generator.
« Reply #24 on: April 05, 2015, 05:51:57 PM »
Something struck me about this Yildiz Magnet Motor. I wonder if "Gadolinium" is a concealed component?

From Sterling Allen:

35+ Reasons Why I Think Yildiz' Magnet Motor Really Works - Reasons include: no heat, "it runs at ambient temperature". Sterling's temperature test may reveal more then he sought after!

Look at this video you'll notice that Yildiz is running the Magnet Motor inside a protective plexiglass shield, and that the fan is directing air flow back through the motor perhaps through adjustable ventilation holes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDpKqdcDDrQ

Quote:

"I see two different types of metals insolated by something, on both units".

Lastly;

The Delft University test had thermostatic room temperature control, where Yildiz ran his magnet motor with no fan. Does Yildiz attempt to control the Currie point of Gadolinium rotor studs with these curious background features?
« Last Edit: April 05, 2015, 11:33:58 PM by synchro1 »

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Re: Gadolinium Magnet Generator.
« Reply #25 on: April 05, 2015, 07:39:56 PM »
interesting thought, synchro1.
Although using this material gives lots of possibility, in the end I doubt that the energy required to control the heat transfers that a 'motor' would need, is less than than any output obtained. It's a bit like Maxwell's Deamon'?
Still, interesting.

synchro1

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Re: Gadolinium Magnet Generator.
« Reply #26 on: April 06, 2015, 12:12:53 AM »
Researching MCE I found the effect is practically "Instantaneous" and "Reversible"!

"Magnetic refrigeration is based on the Magnetocaloric Effect (MCE). The MCE implies that the temperature of suitable materials (Magnetocaloric Materials, MCM) increases when exposing to a magnetic field and decreases when it stops.

 "The temperature to which this effect is the strongest (the Curie temperature) depends on the properties of every material. The effect is reversible and almost instantaneous". 

This means a Gadolinium rotor Stud may not experience cogging.
« Last Edit: April 06, 2015, 02:33:10 AM by synchro1 »

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Re: Gadolinium Magnet Generator.
« Reply #27 on: April 06, 2015, 02:54:25 AM »
Running the rotor vertically with the magnets at the base might permit us to capture and recirculate the heat with a fluid that would rise overhead from the heat, be cooled by the passing Gadolinium studs and sink to the bottem on it's own. MCE refrigerator parts might double for this appendage.

@Pirate88179,

The Gadolinium, Silicon, Germanium alloy developed by Ames has a currie point of 27º Fahrenheit.

shylo

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Re: Gadolinium Magnet Generator.
« Reply #28 on: April 06, 2015, 06:38:24 AM »
Just need to find a cheap supply of that gadolinium.
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Re: Gadolinium Magnet Generator.
« Reply #29 on: April 06, 2015, 04:32:14 PM »
Patent for a gadolinium magnetic motor:  http://www.google.com/patents/US3743866

You can buy $20 1/10 ounce gadolinium coins here:  http://www.elementsales.com/index
« Last Edit: April 06, 2015, 07:04:08 PM by ekimtoor1 »