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Author Topic: Gadolinium Magnet Generator.  (Read 82030 times)

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Re: Gadolinium Magnet Generator.
« Reply #60 on: April 09, 2015, 03:38:29 AM »
Wouldn't the system find its place on its own?  It's entering the field, warming as it passes thru, cooling and then exiting the field cooler than when it entered. This is key because if it does not behave this way then it's just another dead end.

But if it does work this way, then as has already been pointed out it is inherently OU.

Correct me if I'm wrong - exposing gadolinium to a magnetic field causes it to heat. That in itself is OU is it not?

@ekimtoor1,

Quote from Wikipedia:

"Gadolinium's temperature increases when it enters certain magnetic fields. When it leaves the magnetic field, the temperature drops".

Adiabatic heating steals internal heat from the material that is usually replaced from the surrounding warmth. This factors out to zero by itself and is not overunity. When the magnetic field is removed, "the temperature drops as the domains absorb the thermal energy to perform their reorientation".

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Re: Gadolinium Magnet Generator.
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Re: Gadolinium Magnet Generator.
« Reply #61 on: April 09, 2015, 03:52:14 AM »

One might think that because the heating is already applied in the correct direction to the curie point. But then some heat will get lost and when it leaves the magnetic field it will drop to a colder temperature and attract back to the magnet.
Spacing thin sheets could reduce the mass and required heat to make the change while increasing the magnetic attraction.
Like a stack of washers spaced apart has greater attraction than when held together as a solid.

@lumen,

You're right about the cooled Gadolinium attracting back to the "Permanent Magnets". The radiator fins would have to extend forward to conserve the heat in the rotor stud until it passed away from the PM field attraction. A pair of light bulbs might be needed to help right at that point. This is precisely the point where Meir Alfasi is injecting the hot water stream in his video.

Perhaps you're right about reducing the mass and the washer effect! Good thinking.

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Re: Gadolinium Magnet Generator.
« Reply #62 on: April 09, 2015, 05:03:25 AM »
Two five layer cakes of thin soft iron sheets separated by electrical insulating tape for magnetic shielding on the exit side of the "Permanent Magnets" may be all it takes to get it to work.

"This multilayer system of soft iron sheets only need to be separated from each other by a nonconducting material,
like plastic or epoxy. This shield system is used by scientists when experiments are needed to be performed under
conditions unaffected by any magnetic field, including Earths magnetic field.

A five layer of separate soft iron sheets shields from exposure of Earths magnetic field to a degree of 1/1500".

It would also help to angle the cylinder magnets toward the entering rotor stud.

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Re: Gadolinium Magnet Generator.
« Reply #63 on: April 09, 2015, 09:07:25 AM »
Here's a video demonstrating the 100% effectiveness of a magnetic shield:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlMBZJEtwRQ

The zero input "Gadolinium Magnet Motor" would run best in a temperature controlled box. The heat released from the MCE would naturally rise to the top through convection and re-heat the rotor studs through induction there. The axel can run through a sealed bearing in the side of the box to generate power. Input would be limited to the container's temperature control system which would be small because it would be around room temperature. Pet stores stock these kind of low maintenance climate control systems. 

That finishes my conceptual design for this magnet generator.


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Re: Gadolinium Magnet Generator.
« Reply #64 on: April 09, 2015, 10:46:10 AM »
This kind of combination "Air Conditioning & Heating" system is costly, around $500. But very efficient to operate, just a few dollars a month.

"•Can be set to maintain normal temperature range of 61 to 88 degrees Fahrenheit under normal operating environments".

One can gauge the size of the zero input power plant this kind of unit could control from the picture on the bottem: It might be possible to link 10 or 12 large Gadolinium rotors up to run your house in conjunction with a Tesla household battery.

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Re: Gadolinium Magnet Generator.
« Reply #65 on: April 10, 2015, 11:55:31 PM »
This may be a fun experiment, but in the end somebody has to pay the piper for the heat power that is required to run this device.  If for every 100 watts of heat power I can get seven watts of electrical power from a generator output (as a hypothetical example) then it's not too exciting.

Supposing that I use a solar collector to heat up the water to power the generator.  The key question is supposing I replace the solar collector and instead use electricity-generating solar panels to produce electric power directly.  Which method is likely to produce more electrical power per unit of incoming solar power?

Perhaps a more fair comparison would be with a Stirling engine.  For a given amount of heat power, which system can give you more electrical output power from an attached generator, the Stirling engine or the Gadolinium Magnet Generator?  Assume that in both cases the temperature differential is optimized for each device but the available thermal power is the same.

The climate control mechanism of Gadolinium rotor must maintain a temperature of 68º Fahrenheit. Once this temperature seats into the sealed container, heat is reflected back inside and the power turns off.

The "Stiriling Motor" can't pull this kind of trick, once the power's shut off on the Sterling it knocks right out instantly. The power shuts off to the climate control system for a long time.

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Re: Gadolinium Magnet Generator.
« Reply #66 on: April 14, 2015, 10:09:20 AM »
Did anyone obtain their gladolinium here

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Re: Gadolinium Magnet Generator.
« Reply #67 on: April 14, 2015, 12:25:10 PM »
Did anyone obtain their gladolinium here
I am expecting my samples today or tomorrow.

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Re: Gadolinium Magnet Generator.
« Reply #68 on: April 14, 2015, 02:57:14 PM »
I'm ignorant compared to even the most incredible poster here, so don't crucify me.  I'm an IT Manager that peruses these forums for fun while I'm waiting for mailboxes to migrate or some other hurry up and wait computer task.  I'm teachable and I'm learning a lot from all the good and bad stuff I read here.

I thought as a very simple POC GD project, I'd try a perpetulum.  Either two magnets on each side of the GD pendulum, or two GD pieces on each side of the magnet pendulum.  Anyone's input and guidance is welcomed.

The GD samples are coin shaped .999, 3.4 grams, about two inches in diameter.  I ordered two.

I'll have to start following the spot price of GD!

Edit:  Just looked it up and there is no spot price on rare earths.  Looking at Molycorp MCP, as a rare earth investment example, rare earths are really bottomed out right now, maybe with more bottom to come.

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Re: Gadolinium Magnet Generator.
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Re: Gadolinium Magnet Generator.
« Reply #69 on: April 14, 2015, 03:27:08 PM »
Exellent @ekim don't panic I'm a physicist.I'm going to help you and me make another big mark in history(the second time for me)I've got the knowledge,you've got the gadolinum.do you have an infrared-sensitive camera available ekim

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Re: Gadolinium Magnet Generator.
« Reply #70 on: April 14, 2015, 03:37:24 PM »
Exellent @ekim don't panic I'm a physicist.I'm going to help you and me make another big mark in history(the second time for me)I've got the knowledge,you've got the gadolinum.do you have an infrared-sensitive camera available ekim

Would this work?   

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Seek-Thermal-Imaging-Camera-for-iPhone-with-Lightning-connector-LW-AAA-/231530661371?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35e84d85fb

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Re: Gadolinium Magnet Generator.
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Re: Gadolinium Magnet Generator.
« Reply #71 on: April 14, 2015, 04:15:58 PM »
If it can view heat in complete darkness it will work so I think that one is ok yes.if you have a friend that can lend you one it'l workout cheaper though.the idea is to shove one of those coins against a neo and take a thermophoto of it.if we detect a clear heat disparity on that coin we violate kelvin's disgusting statement brother plus the user theoria-apophasis gets catapulted to high-status as it will support his oscillation theory(magnetic vortex thread).two birds with one stone

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Re: Gadolinium Magnet Generator.
« Reply #72 on: April 14, 2015, 05:00:59 PM »
Is this the statement?  (see - I told you I was ignorant...)

"It is impossible, by means of inanimate material agency, to derive mechanical effect from any portion of matter by cooling it below the temperature of the coldest of the surrounding objects"

Did Kelvin know about Gadolinium?

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Re: Gadolinium Magnet Generator.
« Reply #73 on: April 14, 2015, 05:11:55 PM »
That's the statement yes. disgrace to the human race.forget about the camera for now ekim there's hundreds of setups I have in mind.do you possess a votmeter/ammeter that can measure down to a few microamps/millivolts

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Re: Gadolinium Magnet Generator.
« Reply #74 on: April 14, 2015, 05:14:13 PM »
Kelvin didn't care about gadolinium

 

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