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### Author Topic: Maglev Generator Generates 1.8 kW Electricity from 40 W Input  (Read 23046 times)

#### Paul-R

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##### Re: Maglev Generator Generates 1.8 kW Electricity from 40 W Input
« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2015, 04:24:41 PM »
#Paul-R : the switch is to open/close the MoGen-feedback-cycle !
That's  not where I got  the notion. Rather from Google's carboard translation attempt.

A (new) proposition:
How about a generator which will act as a motor spun up to speed by hand. Then, every 1/10 of a rev, it is switched to  generate mode, coils  are charged, coils  discharge into  caps, inductive spikes handled and put somewhere. Then in the next 1/10 of  a rev,  these capacitors discharge into the same device which is now acting as a motor, producing torque on  a shaft holding a regular generator.

Have I reinvented the wheel?

#### sm0ky2

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##### Re: Maglev Generator Generates 1.8 kW Electricity from 40 W Input
« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2015, 04:29:09 PM »
That's  not where I got  the notion. Rather from Google's carboard translation attempt.

A (new) proposition:
How about a generator which will act as a motor spun up to speed by hand. Then, every 1/10 of a rev, it is switched to  generate mode, coils  are charged, coils  discharge into  caps, inductive spikes handled and put somewhere. Then in the next 1/10 of  a rev,  these capacitors discharge into the same device which is now acting as a motor, producing torque on  a shaft holding a regular generator.

Have I reinvented the wheel?

Seems more like a pendulum than a wheel, every 2/10 of a rev, some energy will be dissipated in the form of heat and radiation, thus leaving a bit less to cycle into the next capacitor, resulting in a loss of rotational velocity.

#### Paul-R

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##### Re: Maglev Generator Generates 1.8 kW Electricity from 40 W Input
« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2015, 05:36:32 PM »
Seems more like a pendulum than a wheel, every 2/10 of a rev, some energy will be dissipated in the form of heat and radiation, thus leaving a bit less to cycle into the next capacitor, resulting in a loss of rotational velocity.
I am  expecting that cct design cleverness will result in excess energy being drawn in through quantum fluctuations and all that, back emf spikes, coil shorting and so on. A central  feature being that only one device is used, albeit in two different ways.

#### sm0ky2

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##### Re: Maglev Generator Generates 1.8 kW Electricity from 40 W Input
« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2015, 12:24:42 AM »
I am  expecting that cct design cleverness will result in excess energy being drawn in through quantum fluctuations and all that, back emf spikes, coil shorting and so on. A central  feature being that only one device is used, albeit in two different ways.

just be careful not to sink into an electrical circuit of super-cooling hyper-magnetism that opens a hole in the space-time continuum....

#### Paul-R

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##### Re: Maglev Generator Generates 1.8 kW Electricity from 40 W Input
« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2015, 01:03:52 AM »
just be careful not to sink into an electrical circuit of super-cooling hyper-magnetism that opens a hole in the space-time continuum....
I wondered how long I could conceal the truth from someone of your eminence. The snag is that it might cause a chain reaction resulting in a pole reversal of the Earth's mag field.

Super-cooling eh? Whatever happened to John Worrel Keely's wire which was made of silver coated with gold and then coated with platinum?

#### lancaIV

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##### Re: Maglev Generator Generates 1.8 kW Electricity from 40 W Input
« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2015, 02:37:25 PM »
Let me do a list of inventions,attraction/compression and repulsion/expanding force related :
Wind and winding
Air gas and Ionic/Electronic gas Power

Melvin Prueitt MECH
Ron Driver heating and cooling pump
Prof. Kanarev Pulse Power explication
Mukherjee Motor/Generator
Prof.Ingo Rechenberg bionic Biot-Savart analogon
Klinsing Biot-Savart formula Winding
Dr.Pavel Imris capacitive em-winding
Dr.Wolfgang Volkrodt magnetic force transformer

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Let me go to R.Fradella generator description:

nominal 1000 RPM gives nominal 1000 W output
then        500 RPM by the same generator will give 1000 W X (0,5)³= 125 W
then        100 RPM by the same generator will give 1000 W x (0,1)³=      1 W

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How you want to controle the ccw and cw force balance/resonance ?
The capacitor windings will work as source but also as load/resistance !

How much power do you think to receive as gain :
surpassing Shkondins Motor(with generator winding) or  www.trinitymotors.net (archive.org)
motor/generator 30% feedback-gains ?

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F=BIL
How to neutralize cw force by ccw force to surpass the 'break even' ?
At first here a description without capacitors !

The inventive generator thus comprises a conventional generator for generating electric energy and an electrical device, which counteracts the generated at the conventional generator shaft in the generation of electrical energy retarding force, wherein a part of the electrical energy generated by the generator is consumed.

In a conventional generator the field strength B, the length of its conductor L and the current flowing through is denoted I, the result is the size of the reaction force F exerted on the conductor and thus to the shaft to F = BLI.

If the field strength of the electrical device 2B, the length of its conductor L each, only one current durchfiiesst, corresponds to the strength of the half of the current flowing in the generator current, is the force exerted on the anchor force F '= 2B x L x 1 = LI.

2 This shows that the force exerted on the armature of the electrical device, and thus on the driving wave power is equal to the opposing force which is exerted on the shaft from the conventional generator.

The force is generated to act in a direction such that it compensates the reaction force.

A stronger current flow provides the required torque to the shaft.

Therefore, the shaft and thus the armature moves further and generates electrical energy.

In order to flow current through these half the electrical device, half the voltage generator is required.
by half amperage

So with is 1/4 of the power generated is lost to counteract the retarding force.

The remaining 3/4 of the energy produced, or slightly less of them are for outdoor use are available.

When the field strength of the electrical device is a multiple of the field strength of the generator, for example, 5-fold, it is necessary that 1/5 of the electricity generated flowing in the electrical device in order to generate the compensating force. 1/5 of the generated voltage is required for the current flow.

1/5 voltage x 1/5 ampreage = 1/25 power

Thus, 1/25 or 4% of the energy produced is consumed in the electrical device, while 96% or less of them are for outdoor use are available.

In this way it is not necessary that any electrical energy from an external source is introduced into the generator according to the invention for generating electrical energy.

Thee gain in magnetic induction in the electrical equipment field compared to the generator field can thus be exploited in two ways, namely one for reducing energy consumption in the electric device and on the other to reduce the length of the conductor in the armature of the electrical device and thus in size and cost.

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This as example about the progressive internal power (F,VA) behaviour.

#### hanon

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##### Re: Maglev Generator Generates 1.8 kW Electricity from 40 W Input
« Reply #21 on: April 22, 2015, 09:59:46 PM »
The original Maglev system to levitate trains is created by placing the train support, which is magnetized,  between two magnets: one repels and one attracts. With this configuration there is a place where repulsion force is compensated by attraction force and the system is balanced and "free" from gravity.

Maybe Maglev now has just applied this same principle to an electrical generator.

I think that if you move a wire between TWO MAGNETS you could also counteract the cogging (repulsion from one magnet ) with the attraction from the second magnets. Please check Hogan-Jakovlewich patent and see the similarities... Also you could look to Clemente´s Figuera patent 30376 ..and you will see the same similarities...

N
|                            (N-N = repulsion)
|_________N                                             Net force = 0
|                            (S-N = attraction)
|
S

Always ONE WIRE BETWEEN TWO MAGNETS.

#### Thaelin

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##### Re: Maglev Generator Generates 1.8 kW Electricity from 40 W Input
« Reply #22 on: April 26, 2015, 09:17:57 AM »
I can almost say this setup would work out to being a great
circular magnetic bearing. Higher the strength of the mag rings
the more stability of the unit