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Offline vineet_kiran

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Re: Magnetic Engine Video
« Reply #30 on: March 25, 2015, 04:45:27 AM »
If the flux did not redistribute therefore changing its concentration then there would be no effect on the pendulum.  Would you like to try a different tall tale?

Flux get redistributed with respect to the pendulum not with respect to the shield (or it will not have effect on the shield) because shield is moving in parallel plane on a lengthy magnet with all its points equi-distant from the pole.
 
There is lot of difference between rowing a boat on water and pushing the boat deep down into water.
 
Why don't you understand?
 
 

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« Reply #30 on: March 25, 2015, 04:45:27 AM »

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Re: Magnetic Engine Video
« Reply #31 on: March 25, 2015, 06:13:13 AM »

Flux get redistributed with respect to the pendulum not with respect to the shield (or it will not have effect on the shield) because shield is moving in parallel plane on a lengthy magnet with all its points equi-distant from the pole.
 
There is lot of difference between rowing a boat on water and pushing the boat deep down into water.
 
Why don't you understand?
No matter how long you make the magnet, the magnetic lines are not orthogonal especially close to one of the poles.  The flux through the shield varies with position and work is therefore exchanged changing its position.

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Re: Magnetic Engine Video
« Reply #32 on: March 25, 2015, 06:36:04 AM »

Flux get redistributed with respect to the pendulum not with respect to the shield (or it will not have effect on the shield) because shield is moving in parallel plane on a lengthy magnet with all its points equi-distant from the pole.
 
There is lot of difference between rowing a boat on water and pushing the boat deep down into water.
 
Why don't you understand?
It is YOU that don't understand, or don't want to understand.
The shield have deep influence on the magnetic flux - how the flux orient itself in precense of the shield. The shield is magnetic.
If the shield was very very long and you shielded with the center of it, it would not have much influence on the force needed to move the shield back and forth becaus the flux density woult literally be the same on each side of the shields center.
However, as soon the end of the shield approach the magnet, the flux behaviour start to change as you continue to move the shield. Energy must be spent to remove the shield completely.


I will make a video showing this so there will be no doubt what's going on.


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Re: Magnetic Engine Video
« Reply #32 on: March 25, 2015, 06:36:04 AM »
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Offline MarkE

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Re: Magnetic Engine Video
« Reply #33 on: March 25, 2015, 08:15:42 AM »
Unless Vineet is the victim of some terrible condition that has cost him all the feeling in his hand, he knows that he is exchanging work when he moves the shield.

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Re: Magnetic Engine Video
« Reply #34 on: March 25, 2015, 08:47:30 AM »
Unless Vineet is the victim of some terrible condition that has cost him all the feeling in his hand, he knows that he is exchanging work when he moves the shield.

 
Let Vidar make the video then we will know who has lost his mind due to prejudice.

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Re: Magnetic Engine Video
« Reply #35 on: March 25, 2015, 10:27:40 AM »

 
Let Vidar make the video then we will know who has lost his mind due to prejudice.
It is simple physics which Low-Q (Vidar) has already demonstrated in a video.

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Re: Magnetic Engine Video
« Reply #36 on: March 25, 2015, 10:50:46 AM »
It is simple physics which Low-Q (Vidar) has already demonstrated in a video.

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOQYEzIhTqU
 
 
What I have demonstrated in that video, is it not physics?

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Re: Magnetic Engine Video
« Reply #37 on: March 25, 2015, 01:06:10 PM »

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOQYEzIhTqU
 
 
What I have demonstrated in that video, is it not physics?
You demonstrated the falsity of your own claims rather nicely.  It is obvious in the video that you had to exert work to move the iron bar back and forth.

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Re: Magnetic Engine Video
« Reply #38 on: March 25, 2015, 01:25:38 PM »
You demonstrated the falsity of your own claims rather nicely.  It is obvious in the video that you had to exert work to move the iron bar back and forth.

How much work? As you can see the shield is moving smoothly on strong magnet because of steel ball rolling beneath the shield.
Why don't you do it yourself and see?

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« Reply #39 on: March 25, 2015, 02:20:44 PM »

How much work? As you can see the shield is moving smoothly on strong magnet because of steel ball rolling beneath the shield.
Why don't you do it yourself and see?
You exert more work than you will ever recover.  I have already seen.  Don't you understand Low-Q's video?

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« Reply #40 on: March 25, 2015, 02:54:43 PM »
You exert more work than you will ever recover.  I have already seen.  Don't you understand Low-Q's video?

I have correctly understood Low-Q's video and replied on it before.  You are not understanding things properly.  Anyway let us wait and see how Vidar builds the engine.

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Re: Magnetic Engine Video
« Reply #41 on: March 25, 2015, 03:04:12 PM »

I have correctly understood Low-Q's video and replied on it before.  You are not understanding things properly.  Anyway let us wait and see how Vidar builds the engine.
Low-Q and I have both explained your misconceptions.  Do you think that a variable reluctance machine is something new?  VR machines have been around for over 100 years.  They are well-studied, well-understood, and all under unity.

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Re: Magnetic Engine Video
« Reply #42 on: March 25, 2015, 03:31:43 PM »

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOQYEzIhTqU
 
 
What I have demonstrated in that video, is it not physics?
Your video might be some sort og "psysics" (combination of physical and psycological). Since you have no accurate stress sensor or gauge in your hands, it is possible you have overrated your own experiment.
Experiments done by hand is impossible to make any accurate conclusions from.


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Re: Magnetic Engine Video
« Reply #43 on: March 25, 2015, 03:49:21 PM »
Your video might be some sort og "psysics" (combination of physical and psycological). Since you have no accurate stress sensor or gauge in your hands, it is possible you have overrated your own experiment.
Experiments done by hand is impossible to make any accurate conclusions from.


Vidar


OK!  You build the engine as it is using physics only!  If you think that using hand is unethical, make it automatic using a drop cam,  keeping the fixed magnet and shield vertical.   The entire system has to be correctly synchronized.

Here is the details of a drop cam :
 
http://www.technologystudent.com/cams/snail1.htm

 

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OK!  You build the engine as it is using physics only!  If you think that using hand is unethical, make it automatic using a drop cam,  keeping the fixed magnet and shield vertical.   The entire system has to be correctly synchronized.

Here is the details of a drop cam :
 
http://www.technologystudent.com/cams/snail1.htm
Thanks for the link. I have a 3D printer I can make the parts neccessary to complete the project.
I will spend some time and little money on this, but if the reward is that someone can learn from it, it is worth it :-)


I have magnets - enough of them. Many 25mm diameter 6mm thick neodymium. I will use a couple of those.


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