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Author Topic: E-Trike Kick Starter Project.  (Read 53632 times)

Offline MarkE

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Re: E-Trike Kick Starter Project.
« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2015, 08:00:58 AM »
I think that the color and contrast could use tweeking to make the bike's form easier to recognize.

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Re: E-Trike Kick Starter Project.
« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2015, 08:00:58 AM »

Offline TommeyLReed

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Re: E-Trike Kick Starter Project.
« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2015, 11:11:00 PM »
Hi All,

I started on the frame design today, I could not use a pantograph to copy from paper to plywood but it's looking good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pCHrHFNcW0

Tom

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Re: E-Trike Kick Starter Project.
« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2015, 09:46:47 PM »
Hi All,

Working on the shock assembly and front end today.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGKRnR5Wnoc&feature=youtu.be

Tom

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Re: E-Trike Kick Starter Project.
« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2015, 09:46:47 PM »
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Offline telecom

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Re: E-Trike Kick Starter Project.
« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2015, 01:35:48 AM »
Looks great!

Offline TommeyLReed

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Re: E-Trike Kick Starter Project.
« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2015, 07:44:47 PM »
Hi All,

Kick Starter has been sending emails for extra advertising, they already get 5-9% fees.

I cancel kickstarter and went with indiegogo.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/e-trike/x/5190342

Tom


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Offline Magluvin

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Re: E-Trike Kick Starter Project.
« Reply #20 on: March 06, 2015, 12:34:51 AM »
Hi All,

Kick Starter has been sending emails for extra advertising, they already get 5-9% fees.

I cancel kickstarter and went with indiegogo.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/e-trike/x/5190342

Tom

Hey Tommy

Why did you lower the goal to 2500?   From what I see, you will probably only be able to build the 1 bike with that?
What are your plans after that?

You could go for a lot more, while offering a whole trike to a pledge for giving an amount that covers it plus some for the time and effort.

Mags

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Re: E-Trike Kick Starter Project.
« Reply #21 on: March 06, 2015, 01:17:35 AM »
Hey Tommy

Why did you lower the goal to 2500?   From what I see, you will probably only be able to build the 1 bike with that?
What are your plans after that?

You could go for a lot more, while offering a whole trike to a pledge for giving an amount that covers it plus some for the time and effort.

Mags

I agree. The QEG folks got like $300,000 and counting for something that does not, and can not work.  This is a real bike and I know you (Tommy) will make it work.  I like Mag's idea that for X donation, you get a complete bike.  Lots of folks will give $5, $10, etc and that will help too.  Go after this and get what you need to do this right.

We know this is not a scam and it is a real technology so...best of luck to you Tommy.

Bill

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Re: E-Trike Kick Starter Project.
« Reply #21 on: March 06, 2015, 01:17:35 AM »
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Offline Magluvin

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Re: E-Trike Kick Starter Project.
« Reply #22 on: March 06, 2015, 01:38:06 AM »
I agree. The QEG folks got like $300,000 and counting for something that does not, and can not work.  This is a real bike and I know you (Tommy) will make it work.  I like Mag's idea that for X donation, you get a complete bike.  Lots of folks will give $5, $10, etc and that will help too.  Go after this and get what you need to do this right.

We know this is not a scam and it is a real technology so...best of luck to you Tommy.

Bill

Absolutely. ;) Could get big enough to provide tech jobs for veterans, etc. ;)

Mags

Offline TommeyLReed

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Re: E-Trike Kick Starter Project.
« Reply #23 on: March 06, 2015, 02:04:22 AM »
HI all,

Yes I agree to offer a complete bike.

I lower the price because I thought is would be the right thing to do while I have the wheels and batteries.

What's a good price for a basic E-trike?

The battery pack will cost about $1500.00 to build with new lithium cells for a 2000kwh bank with charging circuit.

Is $3000.00+ a good price for a lower range like 25 miles?

I can't change the asking amount but could add the $3000 -$4000 for a complete E-Trike R1 and R2 models.


Tom

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Re: E-Trike Kick Starter Project.
« Reply #25 on: March 06, 2015, 03:28:27 AM »
HI all,

Yes I agree to offer a complete bike.

I lower the price because I thought is would be the right thing to do while I have the wheels and batteries.

What's a good price for a basic E-trike?

The battery pack will cost about $1500.00 to build with new lithium cells for a 2000kwh bank with charging circuit.

Is $3000.00+ a good price for a lower range like 25 miles?

I can't change the asking amount but could add the $3000 -$4000 for a complete E-Trike R1 and R2 models.


Tom

Sounds about right for a specialized bike. There are ebikes going for 10,000 and up out there. 55mph for 50mi.  You should be able to get more than 25mi with that pack.  The 1kw motor may be an issue. 750w and under is street legal in all 50 states. 1kw can get you 30mph or better, but 20mph is street legal in all 50 states also.  My trek has a 500w 48v and it can do 25mph with 26in 2.0 tires.  And a 500w motor kit is cheaper. ;)

My bike is about 80lb with 14ah sla(4 of them) and Im 225lb. And it will peel out from a stop with full throttle.  Love that bike. I get over 20mi, with stops and goes along the way, where most kits are mile rated for no stops, just full throttle on a flat road. So with the 12ah, I would get less than 20mi with stops and goes as it was rated for 20mi, no stops. Its the acceleration from a stop that uses the most power. Best eff is at top speed.

But many people are riding around at 35mph and nobody(yet) has issues with cops.  Many police dont even know the law when it comes to ebikes. Sometimes they may say, "hey, you cant ride that on the sidewalk". But if it is within the limits of the law as I have posted, and it has pedals, it is a 'bicycle" period.  Just be nice with them and explain and it shouldnt be an issue once they understand.

But if they start cracking down, since there are more and more of them riding around, the power and speed will be a concern. You can use a resistor network on the throttle output to the controller to lower the top speed in your case. And have a turbo button to climb hills and such. ;)

The reason I was saying to ask for more is, you will need more funds to build more bikes. And the more funds you have to start with, the more parts you can buy in bulk and build the bikes cheaper. More profits, or happier customers, which ever you decide upon.

So, you can do another pledge drive after you finish this one and its a proven product. No biggy.  But it would be nice to just go for it, ya know? ;D

Keep up the good work. And best of luck. ;D

Mags






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Re: E-Trike Kick Starter Project.
« Reply #25 on: March 06, 2015, 03:28:27 AM »
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Offline Magluvin

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Re: E-Trike Kick Starter Project.
« Reply #26 on: March 06, 2015, 03:32:28 AM »
And if things go well, check out Alibaba.com to source your kits and batts. Some of the companies will sell singles, and others want a quantity buy in. Thats where the ebay sellers are getting them. ;)

Mags

Offline TommeyLReed

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Re: E-Trike Kick Starter Project.
« Reply #27 on: March 06, 2015, 08:01:32 PM »
Hi Mag,

Thanks for the input.

This is a test design look before I start doing welding on the front end a-frame and steering.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTLWFU4Mc4U

Tom

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Re: E-Trike Kick Starter Project.
« Reply #28 on: March 06, 2015, 11:15:34 PM »
Its getting better every time!
R u planning a derailer on the rear wheel?
Regards

Offline TommeyLReed

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Re: E-Trike Kick Starter Project.
« Reply #29 on: March 07, 2015, 12:28:39 AM »
Hi Telecom,

Yes, I plan to do a derailer also.

I am looking at a air ride shocks, I can make them cheaper then spring shocks.

Tomorrow I plan to work on the front end.

Tom

 

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