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Author Topic: Super simple way to see proof Pseudo Solid principle works using ring magnets  (Read 88702 times)

Low-Q

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Re: VERY important note
« Reply #165 on: March 22, 2015, 10:42:21 PM »
Marbles? What about the trillions of "marbles" inside the marbles with electrons in orbit around each?
You have magnets and iron made up by a given number of atoms. Around them a given number of electrons. What makes you think this number increase during one cycle? Because it has to for this device to work. Since the number of available atoms are fixed, and the magnetic force for that reason dont change, you're left with a passive device that can't do work by its own.

Just face it. Overunity wont happen with magnets.

norman6538

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Re: VERY important note
« Reply #166 on: March 23, 2015, 12:48:21 AM »
You have magnets and iron made up by a given number of atoms. Around them a given number of electrons. What makes you think this number increase during one cycle? Because it has to for this device to work. Since the number of available atoms are fixed, and the magnetic force for that reason dont change, you're left with a passive device that can't do work by its own.

Just face it. Overunity wont happen with magnets.

You are wrong. I have seen it. But permanent magnet overunity in large multiples is hard to achieve and is likely not to happen and thus likely not to supply lots of power.

Norman

Floor

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@norman6538

I've been working on permanent magnet devices
and methods to get work from magnets based on an
idea that interactions with 90 degree (or near 90 degree)
changes in direction will be critical to their successful operation.

In the PDF file attached below is a design to switch off magnets
(at least partially).   I don't know that it will take less work to
switch them off and then back on, than the work that can be gotten
from them as a result of the switching.  I would like your feed back
/ opinions on this.

The rotations of the permanent magnets could be arrived at, by
using a method other than gearing.  The central concept is the
changing of the permanent magnet orientations.

In ferrous materials the magnetic domains are in random orientations
until magnetization occurs.  The device in the drawings could create
varied randomization.  In my example given, randomization is simply
the alternating reversal of polarity in rows.  Other magnet orientations
could also be created, by variation of the design.

There is magnetic suspension of the magnets in their holes (see first drawing).
The holes are drawn over sized for clarity.

                    cheers
                         floor

gammarayburst

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@GammaRayBurst 
@norman6538

I've been working on permanent magnet devices
and methods to get work from magnets based on an
idea that interactions with 90 degree (or near 90 degree)
changes in direction will be critical to their successful operation.

In the PDF file attached below is a design to switch off magnets
(at least partially).   I don't know that it will take less work to
switch them off and then back on, than the work that can be gotten
from them as a result of the switching.  I would like your feed back
/ opinions on this.

The rotations of the permanent magnets could be arrived at, by
using a method other than gearing.  The central concept is the
changing of the permanent magnet orientations.

In ferrous materials the magnetic domains are in random orientations
until magnetization occurs.  The device in the drawings could create
varied randomization.  In my example given, randomization is simply
the alternating reversal of polarity in rows.  Other magnet orientations
could also be created, by variation of the design.

There is magnetic suspension of the magnets in their holes (see first drawing).
The holes are drawn over sized for clarity.

                    cheers
                         floor
Floor, I like that design! I have always felt that random to order was also a way to overunity with magnets.

Floor

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@GammaRayBurst

The drawings don't show it but the "magnetic current"
could lead back around (from the bottom left to the
top left) by using an additional colum of magnets.

I get ideas / inspiration from your designs (thanks)

                    best wishes
                          floor

gammarayburst

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@GammaRayBurst

The drawings don't show it but the "magnetic current"
could lead back around (from the bottom left to the
top left) by using an additional colum of magnets.

I get ideas / inspiration from your designs (thanks)

                    best wishes
                          floor
Floor, I posted this years ago in different versions but no one paid any attention to them. Imagine this 5 feet long. When they are all turned up or with like poles facing in Pseudo Solid fashion it's off. When turned all in line with north to south it's a big magnet.
Butch