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Author Topic: Skycollection's "Pentafilar Pancake" inductively coupled "Overunity Potential".  (Read 224378 times)

skycollection

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Thanks syncro, i think I have many enemies as zerofossilfuel, and other people that are jealous of my work for me is only fun ..! this motor believe or not.... is a great motor 100% efficient...! if you don´t like the circuit first do it and second comment....!

Arthurs

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Hi Skycollection


I follow your experiment replication, Using normal coil, and Unifilar pancake coil, Bifilar pancake coils, Were carried out comparing drivers to pick up and power
Concluded that:
Whether Unifilar pancake coils, Or Bifilar pancake coils, Their effects and normal coil identical, Without the slightest increase efficiency and improve.
Driving efficiency and normal coil performance is identical;
Lenz resistance and normal coil performance is identical;
Generation efficiency and normal coil performance are identical.


May have offended you, but you can also use the normal coil for comparison.

skycollection

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Hi Arthurs.....NO DOUBT about conventional coil but.....PANCAKE COIL HAVE INDUCTIVE COUPLING EFFECT, PANCAKE COIL IT IS EASIER TO ENTER IN SELF OSCILLATION, I CAN INDUCE THE VOLTAGE IN SEVERAL PANCAKE COILS....MY QUESTION IS: CAN YOU MAKE A SEPTEFILAR CONVENTIONAL COIL...? I AM STUDYING THE PANCAKE COIL FOR YEARS AND I DIDN´T FIND THE END THE TUNNEL...!


I can see amazing work in your coils and i would like that you can make the experiments that i can´t do because i have no technologics implements, i hope you can measure your motor and post the results on youtube....! i send you a photo of my pancake coils and i will apreciate any result you have, i apologize for my bad english, i don´t speak english but i have two eyes and brain.
saludos from mexico
jorge rebolledo

skycollection

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You can see the photo of the pancake coils, all the groups in series are insulated and divided, for example the SEPTEFILAR COILS consist in six groups of six pancake coils in series, all the pancake coils don´t have contact with the other groups, every pancake coils groups are individual pancake coils, the voltage is "induced" to the other groups of pancake coils, only one group is connected to the circuit...!

Arthurs

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Hi Skycollection


Thanks reply
I'm very interested in your experiment,Because of this,As you can see:My replication very carefully,I also hope I can replicate the success,My success with replication to verify your findings.


Right now.
Add pictures,Description coil assembly and connect my replication.


For the pancake coil,Between each pancake coil and the surface has a polyimide insulating film professional electronic products used(Certainly there is no normal coil).


I really feel replication without error,
Please correct me,

Thank you!



PS:
In order to allow binding between each pancake coil closer,Induction better,[size=78%]When I experiment,Each pancake coil lead wires are led out from the inside and the outside and connected to each other,If you do not,Will there is a gap 0.8mm (AWG 20) enameled wire between each pancake coil.[/size]

MileHigh

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Thanks syncro, i think I have many enemies as zerofossilfuel, and other people that are jealous of my work for me is only fun ..! this motor believe or not.... is a great motor 100% efficient...! if you don´t like the circuit first do it and second comment....!

Jorge:

If you want to be more scientific then your words have to have real meaning.  What does "is a great motor 100% efficient" really mean?

Efficiency in percentage means:  (A/B x 100)

What is A?  What is B?   If you don't define what A and B are, and how you measured them, then your statement is meaningless.

MileHigh   

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Arthurs:

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I follow your experiment replication, Using normal coil, and Unifilar pancake coil, Bifilar pancake coils, Were carried out comparing drivers to pick up and power
Concluded that:
Whether Unifilar pancake coils, Or Bifilar pancake coils, Their effects and normal coil identical, Without the slightest increase efficiency and improve.
Driving efficiency and normal coil performance is identical;
Lenz resistance and normal coil performance is identical;
Generation efficiency and normal coil performance are identical.

Good work, your results are 100% as expected.  In fact, even before you did those experiments, you can examine the expected results "on paper."  You research how magnetic fields work, you research how a single loop of wire generates a magnetic field, and you can arrive at the conclusion that all of your tests should give you the same results before you even do the experiment.

People that research this stuff have to work on understanding the underlying principles behind what is taking place in their experiments.

MileHigh

skycollection

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Is correct, efficience in a motor is A and B, and is a long trip to get 100% but i think Arthurs motor will do it...! The process of the pancake coil is not difficult, i did my first pancake coil in 10 minutes with my acrylic mold, and the idea of the plastic resin to protect the pancake coil is very good idea also, this coil is for many years...! THE POLYMIDE INSULATING IS A GOOD IDEA ALSO, but this material will not change nothing, the pancake coil is good with this film and without the material, i will work soon in a new pancake coil "INSIDE OF A PERMANENT MAGNET" ....VERY SOON....!

MileHigh

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Is correct, efficience in a motor is A and B, and is a long trip to get 100% but i think Arthurs motor will do it...! The process of the pancake coil is not difficult, i did my first pancake coil in 10 minutes with my acrylic mold, and the idea of the plastic resin to protect the pancake coil is very good idea also, this coil is for many years...! THE POLYMIDE INSULATING IS A GOOD IDEA ALSO, but this material will not change nothing, the pancake coil is good with this film and without the material, i will work soon in a new pancake coil "INSIDE OF A PERMANENT MAGNET" ....VERY SOON....!

A and B could be anything that you want them to be.  But if you don't define them, then any efficiency number means nothing.

No motor will ever have 100% efficiency, but like I state above, you must define what efficiency you are talking about.

Why would you want to put a coil inside of a permanent magnet?  What is the reason for this?   What are you expecting to happen?

skycollection

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I am a curious man...!

Arthurs

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Hi skycollection
Please confirm that my copy is correct?
If there are errors,Please help me correct it.If it is correct,I can compare normal coil and pancake coil test shooting video.
But the best you can also make a normal coil,Comparison test with pancake coil,This is the most convincing.

For your experiment some suggestions:

1) For your current experiment,Experimental meaning little battery charge,To the battery charge time,There is a phenomenon:Observed on the surface charge quickly,Voltage rises quickly,There are actually "false charge"Seem charging is completed,But access to a certain load,Soon the battery will discharge end.In other words:Essentially no real complete charging.

2) When the LED is used as a load,Be sure to use both current and voltage meter to monitor the load,Because now the LED manufacturing process is very good,High brightness LED surface observation time,The actual current is very small.I actually tested a 12V / 3W LED lights,When the input voltage is 10V,Visually observed brightness is already high,At a time when the current is only 50mA,That is the power consumption of only 0.5W.When the voltage is increased to 12V,Current will soar,At this current will reach 300mA.

3) Use the "AA" batteries as a power source,Be sure to use the instrument to monitor the input voltage and current,Although "AA" batteries,But it is still able to provide a current of about 500mA-1A,Only its discharge time is relatively shortened."AA" batteries not a symbol of the power of the weak.

Look forward to your experiment to achieve better results!

skycollection

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OK No. 1 is correct, when i am charging a battery it seems that is complete the charge, but when i connect a load, discharge very fast...! charge is not complete.
No. 2 is correct, led lights consume a very small voltage and the brightnees is almost complete with very low voltage.
No. 3 i don´t know what is the question, if you can more specific or change the question, remember that i don´t speak english.

skycollection

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Arthur, you have a great error in how to assemble the pancake coils......YOU HAVE TO START AGAIN....! I SEND YOU A DIAGRAM AND SORRY FOR THAT...!

skycollection

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Arthur, if you want i can send you my "original" pancake coils by DHL EXPRESS two days, i have many pancake coils that you can prove in your laboratory, but i need the shipping cost and some money for me for my work, if you are interested contat me to: skycollection@hotmail.com

MileHigh

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Is correct, efficience in a motor is A and B, and is a long trip to get 100% but i think Arthurs motor will do it...! The process of the pancake coil is not difficult, i did my first pancake coil in 10 minutes with my acrylic mold, and the idea of the plastic resin to protect the pancake coil is very good idea also, this coil is for many years...! THE POLYMIDE INSULATING IS A GOOD IDEA ALSO, but this material will not change nothing, the pancake coil is good with this film and without the material, i will work soon in a new pancake coil "INSIDE OF A PERMANENT MAGNET" ....VERY SOON....!

Jorge:

There is no logical or rational reason at all to put a coil inside of a permanent magnet.  Coils only respond to AC excitation and a fixed and non-moving magnet produces a DC magnetic field that will have no affect at all on the coil.

You have seen many diagrams of complex magnetic circuits that consist or one or more coils, some ferrite core material, and one or more permanent magnets to create some sort of transformer circuit.  The designer of the circuit will say something like adding the magnets to the circuit are for "more power" or something like that.  It is all lies, all bullshit and ignorance.  A permanent magnet will have zero affect on some kind of AC magnetic circuit.   Also, in many cases you can assume that eventually the permanent magnets will eventually become demagnetized because of the AC excitation from the coils that are being driven in the circuit.

I will repeat:  Using magnets in some kind of coil or transformer circuit is 100% nonsense that will have no beneficial effect.  You see it all the time, and all the time it is nonsense.

MileHigh