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Author Topic: Skycollection's "Pentafilar Pancake" inductively coupled "Overunity Potential".  (Read 153177 times)

Offline TinselKoala

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Careful there, MileHigh.
I have before me right now a handful of ferrite cored single- and multi-winding chokes/transformers that I've removed from old CRT TVs and monitors that have magnets as part of their construction. The magnets are used, I think,  to partially saturate the ferrite cores and bias them, so that the magnetic field from an AC signal into the windings will drive the core more towards saturation in one half-cycle and further away from saturation in the other half-cycle.
I really don't think designers would include the magnets if they had no effect on the performance of these devices.

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Offline MileHigh

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TK:

I was being generic in my comments.  You are not 100% sure what the magnets were used for in the CRT monitor, but that is a specific application where a logical design choice was made for a real and valid reason.  That's in contrast to all of the funky and bizarre magnetic circuits that we see on the forums where magnets are added to the magnetic path "just because."

It's the same thing as people winding nonsensical "series bifilar" coils "just because."  They are only doing it because they see their peers doing it.  They are totally incapable of explaining why they are doing it.  Likewise, if they tested a regular coil vs. a "series bifilar" coil in their circuit they would not see any difference.  But the real problem is that they don't even bother to make the tests themselves to discover if there is any difference.

I think Thane Heins put a lot of permanent magnets in his strange magnetic circuits for his funky transformers.  It was all useless nonsense.

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Offline skycollection

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The only way to know what happens with a pancake coil inside of a permanent magnet and connect any circuit, is doing the things and is the way to know exactly what happens, MileHigh ask me the reason to put a pancake coil inside of a permanent magnet and i have no answer.....for example if you sow one of my videos, i built a bi-filar pancake coil "inside of a ferrite core, this is an extraordinary experiment, i have no answer yet for this experiment because i have to make a lot of experiments with this coil, i sow in this coil an increase in the voltage induced and i think  exist other practical applications of this coil.

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Offline synchro1

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It makes a difference if you put the magnet in the coil.

Offline synchro1

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Here one can see the effect of moving magnets inside a coil core. The magnets can be stationary and generate power also if only the flux is moved while the magnets are physically still:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBMYdE5NQOQ

Leon Dragon's "Magnet Pump" clearly demonstrates this effect. There's no reason why it can't work inside out for Skycollection.

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Offline MileHigh

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The only way to know what happens with a pancake coil inside of a permanent magnet and connect any circuit, is doing the things and is the way to know exactly what happens, MileHigh ask me the reason to put a pancake coil inside of a permanent magnet and i have no answer.....for example if you sow one of my videos, i built a bi-filar pancake coil "inside of a ferrite core, this is an extraordinary experiment, i have no answer yet for this experiment because i have to make a lot of experiments with this coil, i sow in this coil an increase in the voltage induced and i think  exist other practical applications of this coil.

If you are going to put a pancake coil inside a permanent magnet and can't explain why you are doing it, then you need to construct a better experiment.  For example, also put a pancake coil inside a regular ferrite core.  Then you can compare the results you get when you compare the two devices.

I am not sure if you are making some kind of transformer with two or more pancake coils inside a permanent magnet.  If you are then you can compare with the same coil configuration inside a ferrite core.

The same thing applies to pancake coils.   Why are you making pancake coils?  If you don't know why , then you should compare pancake coils with regular coils.  If you construct a transformer with regular coils, then you can expect to get better results than a transformer with pancake coils.

This is the way science and electronics works.  You don't make things or copy things for no reason.  When you make an experiment there should be some logical thought process.

Here is an example:

1.  Make a 1:1 transformer with two pancake coils where I use 5 meters of wire for each coil.
2.  Make a 1:1 transformer with two regular coils where I use 5 meters of wire for each coil.
3.  Compare the results for power throughput and coupling factor for each transformer and analyze the results.

If you did the experiment above you would come to the conclusion that the regular coils will give you better performance than the pancake coils.

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@Milehigh,

When are you going to stop causing trouble?

"Bifilar Coil: A bifilar coil is a coil that contains two closely spaced parallel windings.There exist four types of bifilar wound coils:1.Parallel- wound, series connected;2.Parallel-wound, parallel connected;3.Counter-wound, series connected;4.Counter-wound, parallel connected. The bifilar coil is most commonly used in the following applications:1) To create a low-inductance coil with a large number of loops - This may be required to make a wire-wound resistor operating on alternating current.2) To create a circuit with parallel connected windings. The capacity of such coil will be a lot higher than that of any regular one (which allows one to use an additional capacitor in the circuit).3) The bifilar coil is a lot higher in quality than a regular one, although its wire diameter and frame are the same. This makes it a good choice for circuits and multiple-tuned transformers.4) In pulse transformers one of the windings of a bifilar coil is used as a means to dissipate the energy accumulated in the magnetic flux. Because the two coil windings are so closely spaced, they are penetrated by the same magnetic flux. One of the wires is usually grounded using a LED. So when the voltage on the other main wire is out, the magnetic flux generates current using the auxiliary (limiting) winding. The voltage on this winding is equal to the voltage drop on the diode (forward direction). Voltage of the same value appears on the main winding. Had the limiting winding not been used, the parasitic magnetic flux would have tried to induce the current in the main winding. As a result, this type of coil, invented by Tesla, is used in many electrical and radio devices. This small apparatus helps to achieve incredible results at a low cost".

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Offline MileHigh

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"Causing trouble" is your code word for when you are not capable of making a logical argument.

From Arthurs:

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I follow your experiment replication, Using normal coil, and Unifilar pancake coil, Bifilar pancake coils, Were carried out comparing drivers to pick up and power
Concluded that:
Whether Unifilar pancake coils, Or Bifilar pancake coils, Their effects and normal coil identical, Without the slightest increase efficiency and improve.
Driving efficiency and normal coil performance is identical;
Lenz resistance and normal coil performance is identical;
Generation efficiency and normal coil performance are identical.

Offline skycollection

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About the conclusions of Artur, i respet his conclusions, but i did the experiment with two kind of coils with a bulb led of 12 volts, circuit the "multi-vibrator with two AA batteries and the conclusion was:[/font]
1.- PANCAKE COIL, AMAZING, AWESOME RESULT, I CAN LIGHT ON  BULB LED OF 12 VOLTS VERY BRIGHT, by induction, with ferrite core excellent result also...!
2.- With conventional BIFILAR COIL (similar resistance ohms) i didnĀ“t get to iliminate the bulb of leds, with the same circuit and with the same two batteries.

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Offline skycollection

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I respect  Arthur and i think he has no built the pancake coil correctly, I  sent you a diagram of how to connect the  pancake coils, if he manages to make a similar replica as mine, you will be surprised for the results...!


I proposed him to send by DHL EXPRESS my pancake coils with only the shipping cost and a financial contribution for my work and I had no answer, but i think he will do it if he see my diagram.

Offline synchro1

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"Causing trouble" is your code word for when you are not capable of making a logical argument.

From Arthurs:

@Milehigh,

The "Series Bifilar Coil" of Nicola Tesla is an AC coil. The coil has zero impedance to change in current direction. Running AC current through a "Single Wire" coil of equal Ohmic resistance will cause it to heat up while the "Bifilar" runs cool. Testing the two types of coils for comparison with a monopolar rotor or DC current will not produce any meaningful results.

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Offline skycollection

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I post this video and the circuit for my pancake coils and a pulse motor-generator with 2 AA batteries...!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do5xtmfMRxI




Offline synchro1

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I post this video and the circuit for my pancake coils and a pulse motor-generator with 2 AA batteries...!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do5xtmfMRxI

@Jorge,

Asombroso!

Offline Arthurs

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Hi skycollection
Thank you very much guidance
I will follow you provide coil wiring diagram to continue to do the experiment,
All coils no clockwise or counterclockwise settings?
Or there is nothing "secret" technique?
My email: arthurs630514@hotmail.com

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Use "AA" batteries as a power source,
Does not explain the weak supply capacity,
For example: DURACELL "AA" battery capacity can reach more than 1700mAh,
So: Use "AA" batteries as the drive power can not explain the input power is small.
Thus: To know the exact input power,
Must be connected to the meter drive circuit monitors the input voltage and current.

 

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