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Author Topic: Let's get Slider (aka Mark Vaughan) a nice 4-channel DSO with math functions!  (Read 21762 times)

MarkE

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It's just a bunch of blokes chipping in for a mate. Pretty common over here.
And that's just fine.  Chet seems objects that I call that the charity that it is.  The word charity apparently carries some negative connotation for him.  He also seems miffed that I have not contributed to his appeals.

ramset

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Mark E
actually I know a lot of folks like you,they laugh and tell me all the time.
 ;D " HEY , Everything looks great from My House" ;D


 ;D "I love the world just the way it is" ;D
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your perspective of people working together to make THEIR world a better place as Charity cases with a limited well to draw from,is actually no surprise whatsoever.


actually seems a perfect fit ..






MarkE

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Mark E
actually I know a lot of folks like you,they laugh and tell me all the time.
 ;D " HEY , Everything looks great from My House" ;D


 ;D "I love the world just the way it is" ;D
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your perspective of people working together to make THEIR world a better place as Charity cases with a limited well to draw from,is actually no surprise whatsoever.


actually seems a perfect fit ..
Chet perhaps you can explain how any of these personal jabs are supposed to help your cause for the betterment of man kind. 

If you think that there is an inexhaustible well of donors who will supply you with money, you are free to do so.  If you think less of me or anyone else who does not contribute to your campaigns, you are also free to do so.

ramset

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Mark
I suppose the concept is not within your frame of reference ,It seems
JimBoot gets it and so do others.


Please do not think I am judging you or feel less of you [not that you would care].
we feel there is a job to do and many hands make light work,everyone does what
they can,and suddenly we find ourselves in a place where we would never be on
our own...with resources we would never have by ourselves..


we are a band of brothers working towards a goal ,a completely open source goal.
your comparing this to Sterling Allen and scams  and charities or begging
completely explains your position here,you have defined it quite clearly.

  However, Your well never runs dry ,and I thought it odd that you would think others would ??
so I am quite confident you will be chipping in too,   until the last man standing
and actually look forward to your help here and no I don't consider that charity.
may your well never run dry...


I know mine won't !![[as long as I have a heart beat]


respectfully
Chet
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The projects will be outlined shortly in the new thread [next few days]





MarkE

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Mark
I suppose the concept is not within your frame of reference ,It seems
JimBoot gets it and so do others.


Please do not think I am judging you or feel less of you [not that you would care].
we feel there is a job to do and many hands make light work,everyone does what
they can,and suddenly we find ourselves in a place where we would never be on
our own...with resources we would never have by ourselves..


we are a band of brothers working towards a goal ,
your comparing this to Steling Allen and scams  and charities or begging
It is simply amazing:  I never asserted scam, yet you state that I did.  I gave Sterling Allan's action of going to the well too often as a cautionary example.  And yes you have set yourself up as charity because you are asking for donations.  And no, there isn't anything wrong with that.  How many times do I have to repeat myself?
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completely explains your position here,you have defined it quite clearly.
It is obvious that you don't get it, and I am at a loss to think of anyway to make it simpler or clearer.
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however, Your well never runs dry ,and I thought it odd that you would think others would?
Now what the heck are you on about?  Before a something can run dry it has to first exist.  I am not asking for donations, you are.  I do not have a proverbial well.
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so I am quite confident you will be chipping in too,   until the last man standing
and actually look forward to your help here.
I recommend that you sharpen up your logical processes.
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may your well never run dry...


I know mine won't !![[as long as I have a heart beat]
So you say.
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respectfully
Chet
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The projects will be outlined shortly in the new thread [next few days]
Good for you.  If you get around to articulating a plan you would probably do better to use a fundraising site such as "Go Fund Me" or Indiegogo.

ramset

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Mark
I suppose the concept is not within your frame of reference ,
It seems JimBoot gets it and so do others.Please do not think I am judging you or feel less of you [not that you would care].
  we feel there is a job to do and many hands make light work,everyone does what they can,and suddenly we find ourselves in a place where we would never be on our own...with resources we would never have by ourselves..
  We are a band of brothers working towards a goal ,a completely open source goal.your comparing this to Sterling Allen and scams  and charities or begging completely explains your position here,you have defined it quite clearly.
  However, Your well never runs dry ,and I thought it odd that you would think others would ??


  So I am quite confident you will be chipping in too,   until the last man standing and actually look forward to your help here and no I don't consider that charity.may your well never run dry...I know mine won't !![[as long as I have a heart beat.

 respectfully
Chet
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The projects will be outlined shortly in the new thread [next few days]

Vortex1

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Regarding equipment purchases and project allocation, I am keenly aware of the sensitive nature of this endeavor, having been a former Director of Research and Development for many years in my professional life. It was a difficult position, you couldn't please everyone. Generally projects that were most in line with the company mission statement were funded first and with the best equipment and project resources. Other projects didn't make full funding, and some were unfunded and not pursued.

All equipment went into an equipment pool and were lent to the projects according to certain criteria. When the project was finished, other projects could request the equipment.

    One thing is for sure, all projects required that proposals be submitted first, with expected goals and the investment would have to have some success probability attached. Also the projects would be aimed at surpassing current technology by adequate benchmarking with existing technology. Where no such goalpost was to be had, the project was not funded or very lightly funded.

Fortunately I do not serve on such a committee  as it is a difficult position, and as far as I know there is no such committee, how recipients are selected I do not know. What is obvious is that there are only a handful of posters that actually worked in the real world and had responsibilities and headaches of project management and resource allocation. They know who they are.

The other approach is "Hey Hey! Let's buy a bloke a beer" which has it's pitfalls for the bloke might actually be expected to drive the "car" home. If there are no expectations, then it could be just "charity" or a "gift".

Kind Regards
ION
« Last Edit: February 22, 2015, 11:35:11 PM by Vortex1 »

TinselKoala

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Pardon me for butting in here, but this discussion seems slightly... er.... ridiculous.

The people who wanted to donate have already done so, the goal has been met and exceeded in only 14 hours from the time it started. The donations have been for the most part small.... Brad dug deep and made a big one and we all should be thanking him for that. I'm sure that different people see different causes as "worthy" and some who have not contributed here may contribute to others in the future, and vice-versa. Some who are unable to contribute monetarily but might otherwise want to, like me, may find their situations change in the future, or we may contribute in different ways like with time or references or explanations. Some who have contributed might find their situations have changed and might regret chipping in with money that could have gone elsewhere! The key point is that nobody is being forced to contribute and the goal is an honest one and stated up-front. Some people resent the term "charity" and don't like to be put in the position of accepting "charity" because it offends their pride. Perhaps there is a subtle difference between receiving a "gift" and accepting "charity". Pride goeth before a fall, I think is the saying that applies here.

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Hi TK

I think you mentioned that you had some equipment for sale, but I can't seem to find the thread. I might be a willing buyer. Let me know what you have and the asking price.

Kind Regards
Vortex1

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Hi TK

I think you mentioned that you had some equipment for sale, but I can't seem to find the thread. I might be a willing buyer. Let me know what you have and the asking price.

Kind Regards
Vortex1

I would rather like to get rid of this HP8640B RF signal generator. It weighs a ton though and shipping it would be a pain.
Here's an idea of the price range that they are going for... or rather what is being _asked_ for, on EBay:
http://www.ebay.tv/sch/i.html?_sop=3&_nkw=hp+8640b&_frs=1
I know mine has Opt 003 but I can't remember if it has the other options, and it's behind a pile of other stuff right now. I do plan to pull it out and fool around with it in a week or so though...  :(

I also have a handful of new-old-stock Motorola MC1590G precision wideband amplifiers with AGC, I'd like to get 10 dollars US each for them. Asking price on Ebay is between 10 and 20 dollars each.

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I would rather like to get rid of this HP8640B RF signal generator. It weighs a ton though and shipping it would be a pain.
Here's an idea of the price range that they are going for... or rather what is being _asked_ for, on EBay:
http://www.ebay.tv/sch/i.html?_sop=3&_nkw=hp+8640b&_frs=1
I know mine has Opt 003 but I can't remember if it has the other options, and it's behind a pile of other stuff right now. I do plan to pull it out and fool around with it in a week or so though...  :(

I also have a handful of new-old-stock Motorola MC1590G precision wideband amplifiers with AGC, I'd like to get 10 dollars US each for them. Asking price on Ebay is between 10 and 20 dollars each.

Hi TK

I'm sure your price would be very reasonable, but will have to regrettably decline the item, as I have been suffering with a severe lower back problem and another boat anchor would probably be a major pain.
   Already have a few of the MC1590G's. Maybe someone else will take up your offer.

Kind Regards
Vortex1

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   Snip " all projects required that proposals be submitted first, with expected goals and the investment would have to have some success probability attached. Also the projects would be aimed at surpassing current technology by adequate bench marking with existing technology. Where no such goalpost was to be had, the project was not funded or very lightly funded.
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Wonderful Model !!
This is a proper path for success as well as being a good steward of precious resources .
We need to stick as close as possible to this Model.


Thank you


Chet

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Pardon me for butting in here, but this discussion seems slightly... er.... ridiculous.

The people who wanted to donate have already done so, the goal has been met and exceeded in only 14 hours from the time it started. The donations have been for the most part small.... Brad dug deep and made a big one and we all should be thanking him for that. I'm sure that different people see different causes as "worthy" and some who have not contributed here may contribute to others in the future, and vice-versa. Some who are unable to contribute monetarily but might otherwise want to, like me, may find their situations change in the future, or we may contribute in different ways like with time or references or explanations. Some who have contributed might find their situations have changed and might regret chipping in with money that could have gone elsewhere! The key point is that nobody is being forced to contribute and the goal is an honest one and stated up-front. Some people resent the term "charity" and don't like to be put in the position of accepting "charity" because it offends their pride. Perhaps there is a subtle difference between receiving a "gift" and accepting "charity". Pride goeth before a fall, I think is the saying that applies here.
I would have to agree TK,the job is done.
i see worthy causes to be those who actually build and experiment,not talk,talk,talk-and Mark(slider) is a builder--always has been. My donation was actually going toward your scope TK,but when i returned from vacation i see yours had already been taken care of-so Mark was next on the hit list lol. I have had many people donate stuff to me and my reserch,and it was time to give back.

I dont need any proposals to be submitted first,i can clearly see who dose the hard yard's,and those i believe will put this equipment to good use-regardless of outcome. As my free time has become extreemly limited in the last year,and i have very little time to build and test,i have decided to help out in a financial way insted-->and i'll be there for the next one as well.

Anyway--job well done i think.

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Hi TK

I'm sure your price would be very reasonable, but will have to regrettably decline the item, as I have been suffering with a severe lower back problem and another boat anchor would probably be a major pain.
   Already have a few of the MC1590G's. Maybe someone else will take up your offer.

Kind Regards
Vortex1
No problemo, the HP RF generator makes a great doorstop in drafty conditions, and I do plan to use it myself (for about half an hour) in a week or so for some equipment checkouts. It can even be used as a low-power AM or FM radio transmitter since it can be modulated by external audio input.

I think I have about 24 of the amplifiers and I'll never have a use for more than one or two. They are all still on their blue plastic factory holder things to keep the leads unbent, too. I wonder why you have some... they aren't exactly everyday stock items like 741s or 555s.

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No problemo, the HP RF generator makes a great doorstop in drafty conditions, and I do plan to use it myself (for about half an hour) in a week or so for some equipment checkouts. It can even be used as a low-power AM or FM radio transmitter since it can be modulated by external audio input.

I think I have about 24 of the amplifiers and I'll never have a use for more than one or two. They are all still on their blue plastic factory holder things to keep the leads unbent, too. I wonder why you have some... they aren't exactly everyday stock items like 741s or 555s.

Hi TK

Yes I have couple of old HP generators, one with FM and modulation, so heavy I can barely lift them anymore. Fortunately, I don't have to, they permanently keep the bench from flying away. Also have a few GR Freq synthesizers..very old school.
 As for components, having worked in the industry for over 40 years, parts reps were always changing suppliers, and as I was friends with them, they would gift me their old leftover sales kit bags, lots of samples of all types. I've lost track of everything I have, but try to inventory it now and again. Finding things is the problem here as I now probably could outfit a small surplus store like "Fertiks," one of my old surplus shopping spots in N.E Phila.

Regards, Vortex1 / ION