Author Topic: fun observations about the magnetic field (Read 18196 times)

superhero · « **on:** February 20, 2015, 01:06:36 PM »

1- The magnetic vortex revelation--watch the real shape of the magnetic field
http://youtu.be/wR7c4iXum-A
Also http://youtu.be/ZViJ2WtFN8A

2-The effect of lenses on the magnetic field
Horizontal lens (Parallel to earth surface )
http://youtu.be/9CJ8TPjL9t8
Vertical:
***### When the lens is placed in a vertical position (perpendicular to the Earth's surface), the magnet rotates clockwise in The upper side of the lens and counterclockwise in the lowe side. This is a mind twist please any explanation. ***###
http://youtu.be/pPIdEe7GY5g

Extra
http://youtu.be/11A1A56Mr6E

3-the effect of spin on the magnetic field
http://youtu.be/8C6uyQ0bct4

4- magnets with repulsion and attractions simultaneously
http://youtu.be/ktX1VqVnbys
http://youtu.be/LyvfDzRLsiU

5- the beauty of spin (free energy)
http://youtu.be/b-MSiQTXIG0

6- the famous primer fields theory
http://youtu.be/9EPlyiW-xGI

7- the infamous Ts9 magnetic shielding
http://youtu.be/SQw-nk6nYs0

8- simple V gate energy device
http://youtu.be/nKrWZKh-i08

I thought i'd share my memorable magnetic field moments with you all. Enjoy

Low-Q · « **Reply #1 on:** February 20, 2015, 03:33:41 PM »

I'm afraid there is nothing special about these videos. The experiment with the CRT screen and its behaviour in the precence of a magnet is predictable. The electron ray fails to hit the right color, and instead are deflected by the magnetism. Also this electron ray is moving horizontally very fast and its magnetic field will respond to the field from the magnet and cause the screen to swirl.

About the "vortex" in the last video, and the lense experiment. The reason why they rotate is because one side of the magnet is closer and has most friction to the surface. When the handheld magnet moves, the "free" magnet will ofcourse starte to rotate.

Put one magnet on a needle bearing for least friction as possible, and see if that magnet starts to rotate in presence of another magnet. It won't.

Magnetism has no vortex. That is what I try to say.

Vidar

TinselKoala · « **Reply #2 on:** February 20, 2015, 06:48:51 PM »

Vidar, you are 100 percent correct.

synchro1 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 20, 2015, 08:06:56 PM »

@TinselKoala,

What do you make of this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IljUwQGEkGo

Quote from Dr. Stiffler:

"Just wanted to show this short video on how field arrangements of permanent magnets can be so arranged to obtain motion with no external energy input".

MileHigh · « **Reply #4 on:** February 20, 2015, 08:35:29 PM »

Vidar, you are right on. The first clip that you linked to is from "Al" a.k.a. "ACCA" on this forum. His magnet/CRT tube and his aquarium/bubble vortex clips are all totally wrong. It suggests this:

Challenge to Al/ACCA: The challenge for you is to actually understand what you are looking at in your clips. Why don't you pick one and we will collectively figure it out together. However, you will not be spoon-fed the information. You will be asked to research and understand the basic fundamentals of electronics for yourself, and then apply them to your experimental observations. If you are up to the challenge then I would suggest that you pick your favourite "aquarium 'vortex'" clip.

MileHigh

TinselKoala · « **Reply #5 on:** February 20, 2015, 10:09:34 PM »

Quote from: synchro1 on February 20, 2015, 08:06:56 PM

@TinselKoala,

What do you make of this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IljUwQGEkGo

Quote from Dr. Stiffler:

"Just wanted to show this short video on how field arrangements of permanent magnets can be so arranged to obtain motion with no external energy input".

I think that's 7 minutes and 41 seconds of my life that I'll never get back.

The pendulum slows down over the time of the video. The pendulum also couples EXTERNAL ENERGY INPUT in the form of vibrations into the pendulum motion. Stiffler knows that it is very difficult to isolate such a system from external vibrations, air drafts and the rest of the possible sources of _external energy input_ and he has done none of that for this demonstration. In short, Yet Another very misleading demonstration of an ordinary phenomenon from Dr. Stiffler.

MileHigh · « **Reply #6 on:** February 20, 2015, 11:03:22 PM »

From the clip:

Quote

When the lens is placed in a vertical position (perpendicular to the Earth's surface), the magnet rotates counterclockwise in The upper side of the lens and clockwise in the lowe side.

It has nothing to do with upper vs. lower. It's just a question of left-to-right movement and right-to-left movement. The rotation of the magnet is consistent with respect to the change in the direction of movement.

synchro1 · « **Reply #7 on:** February 20, 2015, 11:10:05 PM »

Quote from: TinselKoala on February 20, 2015, 10:09:34 PM

I think that's 7 minutes and 41 seconds of my life that I'll never get back.

The pendulum slows down over the time of the video. The pendulum also couples EXTERNAL ENERGY INPUT in the form of vibrations into the pendulum motion. Stiffler knows that it is very difficult to isolate such a system from external vibrations, air drafts and the rest of the possible sources of _external energy input_ and he has done none of that for this demonstration. In short, Yet Another very misleading demonstration of an ordinary phenomenon from Dr. Stiffler.

@TinselKoala,

I built a perpetual set of moving magnet wheels from plans of a modified "Bessler Wheel". You can try it and you have my solemn word of honor that it will never stop. I sandwiched upright ceramic block magnets between six plastic cake serving dishes to form "Three Wheels". Two identical wheels of 8" diameter with 8 magnets apiece and one 16" center Wheel with 16 magnets. All the magnets are in opposition, except 3, one on each Wheel in attraction. They balance upright on bearings and the three wheels share 8 possible rotation sequences. A partial lock position will appear, but not for long, as an oscillation begins and breaks finally with explosive force. I had my three wheels positioned in hat boxes with 4 Windows cut, 2 on each end of the 16" center, for the magnets to pass and influence one another. Never stopped moving, so help me!

Jerry Bayles presents a quantum theory of "Magnet Chirality" that explains why mirrored magnets cannot share equal strength. Imagine the sole attraction magnet on one 8" side Wheel locked "between" two magnets of opposing polarity on the larger 16" center Wheel. The 3 magnets then begin to do work on the quantum plane, exchanging forces, untill an imbalance appears as Jerry explains, imparting new momentum to the wheel works!

TinselKoala · « **Reply #8 on:** February 20, 2015, 11:57:14 PM »

What part of "couples external energy input" are you having trouble understanding? I assure you that if you successfully isolate your device from all sources of external energy, like specifically vibrations, it will come to a stop. I have no doubt that if it is just sitting on a table top that it will keep on moving. I've seen a torsion pendulum that was so sensitive that it "kept moving" perpetually... because every week somebody parked an 18-wheeler about 50 yards away outside the building and the thing was actually _gravitationally attracted_ to the mass of the truck, and this was enough to keep it swinging. The business of eliminating all outside sources of energy is not a trivial one.

TinselKoala · « **Reply #9 on:** February 21, 2015, 12:06:43 AM »

As far as the lens thing goes, I covered this topic some months ago. The curvature of the lens causes the magnet to contact it at a single point (roughly). But the "pull" from the other magnet acts through a different point. So a force couple is produced: the frictional force at the point of contact dragging back, and the pull force off-center to this point of contact. Hence the thing rotates. The direction of rotation is predicted by the geometry of the force couple. It's simple dynamics and would work the same way if you were able to pull offcenter with a string. Of course pulling with a magnet allows free rotation about the point of contact , whereas a string wouldn't.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SeVWSO_wpg

synchro1 · « **Reply #10 on:** February 21, 2015, 12:33:24 AM »

Quote from: TinselKoala on February 20, 2015, 11:57:14 PM

What part of "couples external energy input" are you having trouble understanding? I assure you that if you successfully isolate your device from all sources of external energy, like specifically vibrations, it will come to a stop. I have no doubt that if it is just sitting on a table top that it will keep on moving. I've seen a torsion pendulum that was so sensitive that it "kept moving" perpetually... because every week somebody parked an 18-wheeler about 50 yards away outside the building and the thing was actually _gravitationally attracted_ to the mass of the truck, and this was enough to keep it swinging. The business of eliminating all outside sources of energy is not a trivial one.

@TinselKoala,

You're partly correct, but if you build and observe the reaction I described you'll realise there are noticable magnetic currents at work between the four Chiral magnets that box the attraction magnet in. Jerry Bayles demonstrates the astonishing difference in positioning balance magnets on opposing sides of his spinning "Chiral Disks". Nature won't permit equilibrium between mirrored magnets. This effect is in no way attributable to external vibration.

Look at this video from Jerry:

"Chiral Magnetic Field Demonstration of a two-magnet system wherein it is proven that a slight difference in the energy density between the left and right sides of a balanced magnetic field arrangement yields a chiral action".

http://www.electrogravity.com/ChiralMagFld/ChiralMagFld_6.mov

synchro1 · « **Reply #11 on:** February 21, 2015, 04:47:05 AM »

This is a pretty cool video of a large Steel Bearing rotor:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gpaPKlyWKM&list=PLDvggocZX1ekD8BaeYnuQ-xU2qJJuEKVV

I wonder if "Magnet Spheres" might roll if attached to a "Steel Center ball" by tiny disk magnet axles? It might help if the magnet spheres were seperated by paddle Wheel blades. It would shift from a monopole rotor to a N-S rotor very easily.

Low-Q · « **Reply #12 on:** February 21, 2015, 11:19:03 PM »

Quote from: superhero on February 20, 2015, 11:09:34 PM

Then why in a horizontal lens position moving the magnet in a circular motion yields to a constant counterclockwise rotation? ?? Im still confused

The lens might be horizontal, but the shape isn't. This is a convex lens, and the experiment is happening not in the centre, but off center of the lens where the free magnet is a little angled. One part of the magnet is closer to the hand held magnet, and touches therfor the lense off center of the magnet. When the hand held magnet moves around, ofcourse friction off center of the free magnet will cause it to rotate.

Vidar

Pirate88179 · « **Reply #13 on:** February 22, 2015, 01:52:38 AM »

Quote from: synchro1 on February 21, 2015, 04:47:05 AM

This is a pretty cool video of a large Steel Bearing rotor:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gpaPKlyWKM&list=PLDvggocZX1ekD8BaeYnuQ-xU2qJJuEKVV

I wonder if "Magnet Spheres" might roll if attached to a "Steel Center ball" by tiny disk magnet axles? It might help if the magnet spheres were seperated by paddle Wheel blades. It would shift from a monopole rotor to a N-S rotor very easily.

I don't get it. Without Mr. Hand, it will just sit there. When he adds all of those other balls and the mass is increased, he has to take more effort (and time) in spinning it up. Am I missing something here?

Bill

synchro1 · « **Reply #14 on:** February 22, 2015, 04:19:52 AM »

Quote from: Pirate88179 on February 22, 2015, 01:52:38 AM

I don't get it. Without Mr. Hand, it will just sit there. When he adds all of those other balls and the mass is increased, he has to take more effort (and time) in spinning it up. Am I missing something here?

Bill

That's nearly 5 pounds of steel spinning around with no axle or bearing. The 2" neo sphere exerts over 100 pounds of pull force. It would take a 3-D printed housing to keep magnets that size seperated. I Imagine an E-Z spin motor like Lasersaber's, with all the coils in series and one Reed Switch would keep the balls Rolling. The coils might need to be soup can size. The "Flux Density" would be enormous!

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