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synchro1

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WTO tariff on preditory pricing of crude oil.
« on: February 14, 2015, 06:33:02 AM »
A World Leader must act as a "Fair Trade Advocate"; Step forward and make a case before the member nations of the WTO, to limit the continued below cost sales of crude oil on the World Market by the "Monopoly Cartel" led by Saudi Arabia. All the importing nations need to agree to raise a tariff on the below cost oil to keep the Peace. Russia just threatened to help Iran invade Saudi Arabia, as an "Asymetrical Counter Attack" against Barack Obama's proposed lethal aid to Kiev. Russia has an arsenal of neuton bombs which might be used to irradiate Saudi Arabia's vast underground oil reserves. The "Preditory Pricing" of crude oil is anti competitive and internationally destabilizing. Nearly all the WTO members have protectionist anti-trust legislation on their books at home, on the national level, to prohibit this kind of unfair exploitation.
« Last Edit: February 14, 2015, 03:19:57 PM by synchro1 »

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Re: WTO tariff on preditory pricing of crude oil.
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2015, 06:48:03 AM »
I am not sure I understand this.  My take is that the Saudis are artificially lowering the price of oil to put out of business, the US companies that have now developed new ways to get more oil that were not cost-effective at the higher prices.  Spokesmen for these companies have said that, they have vast reserves and...will just close down some of them until the price goes back up.

Russia, on the other hand, is reeling from this.  Too bad.  I see this as nothing more than the free market making adjustments.  If we (The US) were oil and energy independent, then, this would not matter at all.  This is why we need to drill baby drill.  Also, we need to develop real solar and wind and other energy producing technologies that really work at market prices without being subsidized by taxpayer dollars.

Am I missing something here?

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Re: WTO tariff on preditory pricing of crude oil.
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2015, 07:00:05 AM »
I am not sure I understand this.  My take is that the Saudis are artificially lowering the price of oil to put out of business, the US companies that have now developed new ways to get more oil that were not cost-effective at the higher prices.  Spokesmen for these companies have said that, they have vast reserves and...will just close down some of them until the price goes back up.

Russia, on the other hand, is reeling from this.  Too bad.  I see this as nothing more than the free market making adjustments.  If we (The US) were oil and energy independent, then, this would not matter at all.  This is why we need to drill baby drill.  Also, we need to develop real solar and wind and other energy producing technologies that really work at market prices without being subsidized by taxpayer dollars.

Am I missing something here?


Bill

@Pirate88179,

Yea, WW III.

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Re: WTO tariff on preditory pricing of crude oil.
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2015, 07:59:03 AM »
@Pirate88179,

Yea, WW III.

Quite possibly.

Bill

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Re: WTO tariff on preditory pricing of crude oil.
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2015, 09:17:36 AM »
Quite possibly.

Bill

Also, we come up the loser because North Korea will time an attack on the South to pit us against China simultainiously. This means our combined allied infantry strength will be out numbered 3 to 1 on enemy ground. The day Saudi Arabia comes under attack, the American Dollar will switch places with the Russian Ruble as the currency of decreasing value. Russia, China, Iran and North Korea together can exhaust America, along with all her allies, in a two front trench war of attrition. Timely Statecraft can avert this kind of catastrophy.
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Re: WTO tariff on preditory pricing of crude oil.
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2015, 08:13:26 PM »
Here's a video of the "Tsar Bomba" the largest thermonuclear weapon ever detonated. The mushroom cloud reaches a height 8 times the height of Mt. Everest:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3pqSYAuy-A

The reason I show this is to point out that the "Particulate Matter" thrown into the stratosphere from this Russian H bomb test caused a measurable reduction in the Global food harvest. It would only take a few dozen of these kinds of bomb explosions to cause a "World Wide Famine" of total extinction magnitude. This is to remind anyone of the lack of feasability of resorting to this kind of weapon to offset an enemy numerical ground advantge.

The need for imediate mitigatory diplomacy is urgent at this time in History.

The Moscow Times reported Monday that if the U.S. supplied arms to Ukraine, it would be viewed as an act of war. That action would not only increase the tension in the region, it would also force the Kremlin to “respond asymmetrically against Washington or its allies on other fronts,” the publication reported.

"We can also encourage Iran, or even back Iran in a fight — a military operation — with Saudi Arabia, so then the prices for oil will skyrocket," the source said.

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Re: WTO tariff on preditory pricing of crude oil.
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2015, 09:09:57 PM »
Here's a video of the "Tsar Bomba" the largest thermonuclear weapon ever detonated. The mushroom cloud reaches a height 8 times the height of Mt. Everest:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3pqSYAuy-A

The reason I show this is to point out that the "Particulate Matter" thrown into the stratosphere from this Russian H bomb test caused a measurable reduction in the Global food harvest. It would only take a few dozen of these kinds of bomb explosions to cause a "World Wide Famine" of total extinction magnitude. This is to remind anyone of the lack of feasability of resorting to this kind of weapon to offset an enemy numerical ground advantge.

The need for imediate mitigatory diplomacy is urgent at this time in History.

The Moscow Times reported Monday that if the U.S. supplied arms to Ukraine, it would be viewed as an act of war. That action would not only increase the tension in the region, it would also force the Kremlin to “respond asymmetrically against Washington or its allies on other fronts,” the publication reported.

"We can also encourage Iran, or even back Iran in a fight — a military operation — with Saudi Arabia, so then the prices for oil will skyrocket," the source said.

It won't be much of a fight.  Our idiot "leader" has eliminated over 80% of our nukes.  I think we have some fireworks left though...


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Re: WTO tariff on preditory pricing of crude oil.
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2015, 10:01:39 PM »
It won't be much of a fight.  Our idiot "leader" has eliminated over 80% of our nukes.  I think we have some fireworks left though...


Bill

Here's a breakdown from 2014. Russia has a 10 to 1 advantage in the "Cruise Missile" catagory warhead: It makes no sense what-so-ever to allow Saudi Arabia to punish Russia to the point of getting attacked by them with Iran, ostensibly just to topple Assad in Syria. That turns into a real "Bummer" for America in the final analysis!

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Re: WTO tariff on preditory pricing of crude oil.
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2015, 12:26:15 AM »
Here's a video of a blast claimed to be low yield "Nuclear" by Kiev in the Ukraine Sunday. Other reports surmise it was a chemical plant. Powerful enough to break this window pane 6 kilometers from the blast. Some reports say it was Ukrainian army artillery fire hitting an ammunition depot held by the rebel Donetsk People’s Republic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuQ5EPnSE_4#t=17

This video appears to show a signature "Mushroom Cloud":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lb1TAMTZv8\

Youtube comment from Michael Thomas:

"It was a Tactical Nuke. This is another cover up story. If there was a munitions plant or a warehouse storing explosives, where is the BEFORE PICTURE OF IT. The place I am sure had a name and address??? Where is all that. Where are the local interviews from residents about this so called place?  OH I am sure we should be able to see it on Google Earth right?  AHHH, because it didn't exist. It was a tactical nuke because it BROKE GLASS WINDOWS for 15 miles in every direction. No factory blowing up does that, END OF STORY, a nuke".

This will have been the first use of a nuclear weapon in battle since Nagasaki on August 9th 1945 if true! 70 years ago this August!

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Re: WTO tariff on preditory pricing of crude oil.
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2015, 12:33:53 AM »
Well, if this is all true, then we have a real problem when it comes to free energy, dont we?

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Re: WTO tariff on preditory pricing of crude oil.
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2015, 03:48:51 AM »
Well, if this is all true, then we have a real problem when it comes to free energy, dont we?

Mags

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Free energy would act as a panacea for this kind of problem by removing excessive power from the special interest elite and turning it over to the people; Away from the violent schism troglodytes and more evenly divided among the broader masses content to be warm, clean and filled with hot food.

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Re: WTO tariff on preditory pricing of crude oil.
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2015, 12:13:18 AM »
FORT CARSON, Colo., Feb. 15 (UPI) --

         "A brigade of more than 4,000 soldiers from Fort Carson, Colo., will be deployed to Kuwait to create the largest U.S. ground force currently in the Middle East. The brigade is equipped with tanks and Bradley Fighting Vehicles and has been training for more than a year. Many of the soldiers are seasoned combat veterans of the Iraq war".

Take note of the strategic location of Kuwait between the borders of Iran and Saudi Arabia on the map below:

Looks like they're off to the races again! The U.S wouldn't react this way unless they observed troop movements inside Iran.

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Re: WTO tariff on preditory pricing of crude oil.
« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2015, 01:57:47 AM »
FORT CARSON, Colo., Feb. 15 (UPI) --

         "A brigade of more than 4,000 soldiers from Fort Carson, Colo., will be deployed to Kuwait to create the largest U.S. ground force currently in the Middle East. The brigade is equipped with tanks and Bradley Fighting Vehicles and has been training for more than a year. Many of the soldiers are seasoned combat veterans of the Iraq war".

Take note of the strategic location of Kuwait between the borders of Iran and Saudi Arabia on the map below:

Looks like they're off to the races again! The U.S wouldn't react this way unless they observed troop movements inside Iran.

This can not be.  Obama said..."No boots on the ground..period."  What gives?

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Re: WTO tariff on preditory pricing of crude oil.
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2015, 06:42:33 PM »
Nice way to add support to oil prices!

"Escalating conflicts with Islamic State militants and an attack on an oil pipeline in Libya helped support prices.

Egypt's air force bombed Islamic State targets inside Libya for the first time on Monday, a day after the group released a video appearing to show the beheading of 21 Egyptians there.

Libya's El Sarir oilfield is still unable to pump oil to Hariga port after a pipeline was attacked and set on fire on Saturday'.

The west attacked Iraq to increase supplies at a huge cost to the taxpayer, now it seems they feel it's a good idea to use the same approach to limit it.




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« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2015, 07:59:34 PM »
Nice way to add support to oil prices!

"Escalating conflicts with Islamic State militants and an attack on an oil pipeline in Libya helped support prices.

Egypt's air force bombed Islamic State targets inside Libya for the first time on Monday, a day after the group released a video appearing to show the beheading of 21 Egyptians there.

Libya's El Sarir oilfield is still unable to pump oil to Hariga port after a pipeline was attacked and set on fire on Saturday'.

The west attacked Iraq to increase supplies at a huge cost to the taxpayer, now it seems they feel it's a good idea to use the same approach to limit it.

You should really study history more.  The west attacked Iraq because Iraq invaded Kuwait, with whom the US had a treaty to protect them.  We (The US) kicked their butts back to Iraq and Iraq signed a peace treaty which was the only reason Schwartzcoff did not go into Baghdad back then.  Part of the treaty they signed established a NO FLY zone as part of the agreement.  They also said, as part of the agreement, that we could send in nuclear inspectors.  They agreed to all of this..in writing.

Then, after over 900 missiles were fired at our planes patrolling the no fly zone, and Iraq having kicked out all inspectors, Bush went to the UN 17 times to get a resolution.  17 times....not once or twice.  After finally getting the resolution, we did indeed invade Iraq.  Congress all voted for this war effort as well.

So, I disagree with your premise of invading simply to adjust the price of oil.  It is not factual.

Picture, after Japan signed the WWII peace agreements and then a few years later, they opened fire on US ships in their harbor.  Would you not think that the war would be back on again?  Of course it would.  This is exactly what happened to Iraq except, Bush took too long (In my opinion) asking Congress and the UN (who the hell is the UN anyway?) for permission.

So you think Iraq shooting at our planes was not a violation of the peace treaty and NOT an act of war?  One time would have been enough for me but, we waited until over 900 missiles were fired at our planes.

Bill