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Author Topic: -----------> Generator Runs on GAS VAPOR ONLY.  (Read 21569 times)

FatBird

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-----------> Generator Runs on GAS VAPOR ONLY.
« on: February 03, 2015, 03:25:12 PM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U113LnY2zg4
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« Last Edit: February 04, 2015, 01:35:14 AM by FatBird »

FatBird

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Re: -----------> Generator Runs on GAS VAPOR ONLY. Amazing Invention!!!
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2015, 04:01:13 PM »
It looks like some people are doing the same thing with their cars.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrsFYMP4BaE
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« Last Edit: February 03, 2015, 10:52:39 PM by FatBird »

ramset

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Re: -----------> Generator Runs on GAS VAPOR ONLY. Amazing Invention!!!
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2015, 05:35:59 PM »
And we could always invite Bill here to share his personal experiences
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8K7Vomo88c


Haven't spoken to him in a while ,however I could change that if some here commit to
experiments


Edit Note : as a matter of fact ...I just put him on the calender for a call.


respectfully


ChetKremens@gmail.com

Qwert

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Re: -----------> Generator Runs on GAS VAPOR ONLY. Amazing Idea.
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2015, 11:17:34 PM »
Use your brain: does 1 pound of gas make more heat than 2 pounds? That video suggests so. Perfect food for brainless.
That's not even a matter of an engine calibration; rather a proper fuel pump.

My second look at the video suggests that in fact that guy does not even claim that's much more efficient; just another way of fueling.

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Re: -----------> Generator Runs on GAS VAPOR ONLY. Amazing Idea.
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2015, 01:18:27 AM »
Why is this an "amazing idea"? By the time fuel gets into the cylinders of any gasoline 4-cycle ICE it is already vaporized by the heat of the engine. The intake valves are cooled by contact with the cylinder head and by the fuel vapor-air mixture flowing over them. Only in direct-cylinder injection engines like Diesels can "liquid" fuel reach the cylinders themselves, and even then it is in a fine mist that is quickly turned to vapor by the heat of the cylinder . "Fuel injected" aircraft engines have the injectors outside the cylinders proper, spraying into the induction manifold near the _hot_ intake valves. My old Chevy uses "throttle body injection" where liquid fuel is sprayed onto the throttle plate in a thing that looks like (and is) a very simple carburetor body with electronic sensors. By the time the fuel gets to the cylinders it is completely vaporized, or there is something wrong.  Even in old style carburetted engines the fuel does not enter the cylinder as a liquid but as a thoroughly mixed fuel-air vapor.

FatBird

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Re: -----------> Generator Runs on GAS VAPOR ONLY. Amazing Idea.
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2015, 01:29:48 AM »

Here's THE PATENT for a HIGH MILEAGE Vapor Carburetor:

http://www.pat2pdf.org/patents/pat4030457.pdf

       

pomodoro

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Re: -----------> Generator Runs on GAS VAPOR ONLY. Amazing Idea.
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2015, 01:34:44 AM »
No different to using LPG really. The generator here could run too lean under a heavy load - not good.

Qwert

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Re: -----------> Generator Runs on GAS VAPOR ONLY.
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2015, 02:23:31 AM »
Here's THE PATENT for a HIGH MILEAGE Vapor Carburetor:

http://www.pat2pdf.org/patents/pat4030457.pdf

       

How many miles were traveled with this kind of carb?
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FatBird

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Re: -----------> Generator Runs on GAS VAPOR ONLY.
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2015, 03:18:53 PM »
Here is a guy who has done a lot of testing and Gets 211 MPG.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrsFYMP4BaE
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Re: -----------> Generator Runs on GAS VAPOR ONLY.
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2015, 04:10:06 PM »

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Re: -----------> Generator Runs on GAS VAPOR ONLY.
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2015, 10:13:39 PM »
http://truedemocracyparty.net/2013/07/vapor-fuel-systems-100-200-mpg-1000-mpg-shell-research-1970s-tom-ogle-strikes-back/
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Re: -----------> Generator Runs on GAS VAPOR ONLY.
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2015, 01:28:44 PM »
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truesearch

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Re: -----------> Generator Runs on GAS VAPOR ONLY.
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2015, 02:25:38 PM »
Are there any active builders/experimenters who have duplicated this "vapor" project on their own vehicle(s)?


I'm someone who could benefit greatly from this, IF it does actually work . . . .  :-\


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Qwert

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Re: -----------> Generator Runs on GAS VAPOR ONLY.
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2015, 05:30:45 PM »
Just as I said before: "just another fueling system", and it's known probably since 30's of 20th century. Its secret is that it provides clean fuel stripped of residual water and other impurities by relatively simple solution. Water and impurities found in most of the fuel sources act by choking the engine systems and thus often quite severely depriving its efficiency/performance.

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Re: -----------> Generator Runs on GAS VAPOR ONLY. Amazing Idea.
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2015, 09:42:05 PM »
Why is this an "amazing idea"? By the time fuel gets into the cylinders of any gasoline 4-cycle ICE it is already vaporized by the heat of the engine. The intake valves are cooled by contact with the cylinder head and by the fuel vapor-air mixture flowing over them. Only in direct-cylinder injection engines like Diesels can "liquid" fuel reach the cylinders themselves, and even then it is in a fine mist that is quickly turned to vapor by the heat of the cylinder . "Fuel injected" aircraft engines have the injectors outside the cylinders proper, spraying into the induction manifold near the _hot_ intake valves. My old Chevy uses "throttle body injection" where liquid fuel is sprayed onto the throttle plate in a thing that looks like (and is) a very simple carburetor body with electronic sensors. By the time the fuel gets to the cylinders it is completely vaporized, or there is something wrong.  Even in old style carburetted engines the fuel does not enter the cylinder as a liquid but as a thoroughly mixed fuel-air vapor.
Not true.   A lot of gas reaches the cylinders as liquid and is used to some extent as lubrication but is a wasteful lube.   I'm not saying it is ounces of liquid but far from being fully vaporized.