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Author Topic: Are scalar waves BS?  (Read 58573 times)

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Are scalar waves BS?
« Reply #90 on: August 25, 2015, 11:10:04 PM »
the only one who follows a standard script is you. telling the truth and insulting are two different things and you accuse me of the later because you are concious of your error. http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=30990&sid=38b43dafb9157485e7d1f4d35ac4546f https://www.scribd.com/doc/270895877/Pvelocities-6000-Ver-b https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjz-5Lqtxow http://libra.msra.cn/Publication/11219924/superluminal-transmission-of-information-through-an-electromagnetic-metamaterial

as for the markE guy: yeah pal its the same wordplay over and over again. "group velocities", superluminal transmission "of information", etc. which isn't truth either cause it has been proven already. when it becomes standard science they'll find another excuse. "superluminal transmission of quantised macro-information!" or some stupidity of the sort.

You're hilarious! You cite Eric Dollard !! And you cite "The Old Scientist" whose work has already been demonstrated to be flawed. That's a real laugh. And you misrepresent the only actual peer-reviewed paper as saying something it does not say. It's clear to me that you have no real understanding of your topic and you want to promote lying hustlers like Dollard. Go ahead, give him some money if you believe his flim-flam. We all know what he'll spend it on. Meanwhile, real science progresses, in spite of dropout trolls like you.

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Re: Are scalar waves BS?
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Offline Panul

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Re: Are scalar waves BS?
« Reply #91 on: August 25, 2015, 11:39:26 PM »
You're hilarious! You cite Eric Dollard !! And you cite "The Old Scientist" whose work has already been demonstrated to be flawed. That's a real laugh. And you misrepresent the only actual peer-reviewed paper as saying something it does not say. It's clear to me that you have no real understanding of your topic and you want to promote lying hustlers like Dollard. Go ahead, give him some money if you believe his flim-flam. We all know what he'll spend it on. Meanwhile, real science progresses, in spite of dropout trolls like you.

if eric dollard one of the greatest electrical engineers and experimentalists is a shill and a drunkhead (cause thats what you imply by saying we all know what he'll do with it. but it's only normal/expected that you use adhominems and exploit/magnify people's weaknesses to add to your "arguments"), then what that makes you? an amoebe? the old scientist's experiments are proven to be wrong? by what sources? academic zombies and disinfo agents like your highness? and where are these sources? "real science progresses?"  are you completely deluded? it progresses by obsessively holding onto obsolete theories like relativity? by using harmful radiations for our communications? by rejecting as "noise" the real deal, and exploiting for technology the real noise? by butchering the human bodies for procedures that can be managed with zero-invasiveness methods? by killing the cancer patients wth expensive and lethal chemotherapies? by killing the planet using 300 years old energy sources? by being dictated by economic, academic and political interests? that's how it "progresses"? of course i'm not saying there is  no bright side on the two sided coin, but the dichotomy you try to advertise is not exactly accurate. as for the secular science paper it was never used as a groundbreaking hit, because it doesn't try to disturb the status quo but to elucidate the subject through the spectre of the dominant scientific beliefs. but you can't say that's the case with mr Pappas and other scientists' status quo shattering materials.

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Re: Are scalar waves BS?
« Reply #92 on: July 01, 2016, 08:08:03 AM »
No, they are not BS. Putting the dictionary language issues aside, the wave itself is physically valid, mathematically confirmed and similar to common existing real-world versions of the same longitudinal propagation system (sonic waves, water waves, etc).


The only thing we are missing here is a viable simple detection system that can separate and analyze it independently from the standard hertzian waves.

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Re: Are scalar waves BS?
« Reply #92 on: July 01, 2016, 08:08:03 AM »
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Offline conradelektro

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Re: Are scalar waves BS?
« Reply #93 on: July 01, 2016, 08:38:23 AM »
I got two books from Meyl and did some experiments which I reported in this thread:

http://overunity.com/15458/are-scalar-waves-bs/msg435244/#msg435244

Of course the believers were not interested in the experiments and preferred empty words over facts. It is so much easier to spread BS instead of building and measuring.

Naturally, I did some thing wrong (just to mention this BS argument before anybody else can write it). But none of the verbose believers could show anything tangible in this thread, not a single build or measurement.

No, they are not BS. Putting the dictionary language issues aside, the wave itself is physically valid, mathematically confirmed and similar to common existing real-world versions of the same longitudinal propagation system (sonic waves, water waves, etc).

The only thing we are missing here is a viable simple detection system that can separate and analyze it independently from the standard hertzian waves.

You may speculate and hope, but scalar waves remain BS till you demonstrate such a viable detection system. And nobody could do that till now, just words and inconclusive contraption.

Greetings, Conrad

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Re: Are scalar waves BS?
« Reply #94 on: July 01, 2016, 09:02:39 AM »
[size=0px]A viable detection system is what I will soon try to build.[/size]
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[size=0px]Detection may be harder than one may think. Just consider that you cannot actually measure a size in an objective unversal way.[/size]

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Offline AlienGrey

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Re: Are scalar waves BS?
« Reply #95 on: July 02, 2016, 12:52:56 PM »
I got two books from Meyl and did some experiments which I reported in this thread:

http://overunity.com/15458/are-scalar-waves-bs/msg435244/#msg435244

Of course the believers were not interested in the experiments and preferred empty words over facts. It is so much easier to spread BS instead of building and measuring.

Naturally, I did some thing wrong (just to mention this BS argument before anybody else can write it). But none of the verbose believers could show anything tangible in this thread, not a single build or measurement.

You may speculate and hope, but scalar waves remain BS till you demonstrate such a viable detection system. And nobody could do that till now, just words and inconclusive contraption.

Greetings, Conrad
What are you talking about I happen to be working on scalar waves, instead of talking out your bottom why don't you look up Eric Dollard or Nichol Tesla and his work on the subject also Henry moray and just what scalar waves are capable of doing in reality like for one you cannot 'stop' such a wave, look it up it was all tesla ever used and for another it's in your signature as an existing being and once scanned they could find you anywhere on the planet and they just need something of yours with your energy in it to find you ! think it's fiction well it's not it is already a reality.  Why don't you start a real thread on it and research it properly?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhuSn6sc7sc

Offline conradelektro

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Re: Are scalar waves BS?
« Reply #96 on: July 02, 2016, 05:10:24 PM »
@the Grey Alien:

I am the only one in this thread who offered more than words. I showed a real experiment and measurements.

I did not start a "proper thread" because I could not show anything new or useful. I reported a negative result which at least shows that scalar waves can not be shown as Meyl claims.

So, show something tangible, present a measurement and then you may talk.

Greetings, Conrad

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Re: Are scalar waves BS?
« Reply #96 on: July 02, 2016, 05:10:24 PM »
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Offline Overmind

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Re: Are scalar waves BS?
« Reply #97 on: July 04, 2016, 08:41:53 AM »
My logical approach on this that anyone could test: make an emitter tower and receiver. Transfer power between them. Measure the Hz components and mathematically calculate the loss/distance. The difference in power at the receiver compared to the calculated value should be the scalar component.

Offline AlienGrey

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Re: Are scalar waves BS?
« Reply #98 on: July 04, 2016, 03:53:33 PM »
@the Grey Alien:

I am the only one in this thread who offered more than words. I showed a real experiment and measurements.

I did not start a "proper thread" because I could not show anything new or useful. I reported a negative result which at least shows that scalar waves can not be shown as Meyl claims.

So, show something tangible, present a measurement and then you may talk.

Greetings, Conrad
Loads or things work in counter space and Longitudinal waves and who the F are you to set barriers so you can use it for commercial use ??? in your kitchen is a microwave oven that is an over unity device ! you want the meal already made !

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Re: Are scalar waves BS?
« Reply #98 on: July 04, 2016, 03:53:33 PM »
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Offline AlienGrey

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Re: Are scalar waves BS?
« Reply #99 on: July 04, 2016, 03:59:43 PM »
[size=0px]A viable detection system is what I will soon try to build.[/size]
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[size=0px]Detection may be harder than one may think. Just consider that you cannot actually measure a size in an objective unversal way.[/size]
It's already included in some detection satalites already orbiting the planet, and not very dificult to track if you know how it works.

Offline blueplanet

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Re: Are scalar waves BS?
« Reply #100 on: July 06, 2017, 01:24:55 PM »
Somebody has mentioned that signals can pass through a Faraday cage.
Isn't it sufficient to prove its existence?
It is probably not just a belief.



I got two books from Meyl and did some experiments which I reported in this thread:

http://overunity.com/15458/are-scalar-waves-bs/msg435244/#msg435244

Of course the believers were not interested in the experiments and preferred empty words over facts. It is so much easier to spread BS instead of building and measuring.

Naturally, I did some thing wrong (just to mention this BS argument before anybody else can write it). But none of the verbose believers could show anything tangible in this thread, not a single build or measurement.

You may speculate and hope, but scalar waves remain BS till you demonstrate such a viable detection system. And nobody could do that till now, just words and inconclusive contraption.

Greetings, Conrad

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Re: Are scalar waves BS?
« Reply #100 on: July 06, 2017, 01:24:55 PM »
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Offline blueplanet

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Re: Are scalar waves BS?
« Reply #101 on: July 06, 2017, 01:35:51 PM »
I have no time to go through all the posts in this thread. But i try to offer my 2 cents.

I suspect that  this scalar wave is a deceptively important thing. It is probably a nickname of something very important.
TB was probably not the first guy who used this term.
Again, we must not be brain-washed by our text book too much.
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Re: Are scalar waves BS?
« Reply #102 on: July 06, 2017, 01:44:01 PM »
Folks,
One more thing.
Avremenko has mentioned scalar waves in his literature.
If scalar waves were no more than BS, it would not have been mentioned by Avremenko.

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Re: Are scalar waves BS?
« Reply #103 on: July 06, 2017, 02:00:56 PM »
Yes, we need methods of differentiate  normal radio waves and scalar waves. I know they exists because of Tesla reactions to some news for example about the nature of radio and Roentgen rays.
Thay are magnetic waves with low electric component (electric here is a loss and occur in form of static electricity).

Offline pomodoro

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Re: Are scalar waves BS?
« Reply #104 on: July 07, 2017, 02:24:49 AM »
Tesla also believed in Martians  and that you can't split the atom.


If you want to play with scalar waves stick a metal plate on your oscillator and couple to its changing electrostatic field with another plate.  Do the same magnetically with  solenoids instead. Those are real scalar fields you can experiment with.   Problem is that they don' radiate they couple only.
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