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Author Topic: ----> PROOF Magnets Have a SPINNING Magnetic Field  (Read 36927 times)

Offline MileHigh

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Re: ----> PROOF Magnets Have a SPINNING Magnetic Field
« Reply #75 on: October 31, 2015, 05:07:10 PM »
Acca:

That is not an explanation at all.  You just posted a pdf that has the term "magnetohydrodynamic vorticies" in it.  It has nothing to do with my question to you.

So please, explain why you get a vortice in the water when you do your aquarium tests.  The diagram that I posted is a huge hint.

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Re: ----> PROOF Magnets Have a SPINNING Magnetic Field
« Reply #76 on: November 01, 2015, 06:19:41 PM »
Explanation of the spinning or rotating magnetvortex is self evident, you have nothing to offer me except to"egg me on" by bating me in to carrying on this useless debate with you.

I am posting this here as the web search engines look at this sight to add to their search(s).

.........and you thought that this is for you and other members here ? Sadly that is not so..

Acca..

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Re: ----> PROOF Magnets Have a SPINNING Magnetic Field
« Reply #77 on: November 01, 2015, 07:52:24 PM »
Explanation of the spinning or rotating magnetvortex is self evident, you have nothing to offer me except to"egg me on" by bating me in to carrying on this useless debate with you.

I am posting this here as the web search engines look at this sight to add to their search(s).

.........and you thought that this is for you and other members here ? Sadly that is not so..

Acca..

No, the explanation is not self-evident.  You have to possess the most basic fundamental knowledge about magnetism.  If you don't possess this knowledge then you will be completely lost.

I sincerely hope that the search engines land on this thread in the first few hits so that we can clean up this misunderstanding once and for all and inject some truth and reality into you and into your followers.

Here is the question that you are not asking yourself:  What is the force on a current carrying wire in a magnetic field?

The answer is that it is the cross product between the current and the magnetic field.  That means that the force is at a right angle to the direction of the current and the direction of the magnetic field.  It's how an electric motor works.

Look at this clip and see the attached hand diagram:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fbhcdS328c

There is current flowing in the water.  There is a magnetic field in the water.

You can look at the water like thousands of wires carrying current, like a bunch of spaghetti strands all in parallel.  Each individual spaghetti strand of water will experience a force on it, and that force will make the spaghetti strand move.  The forces form a vortex because of the geometry between the direction of the current flow and the direction of the magnetic field.  See the attached diagram.

There is no "magnetic field vortex," that's complete nonsense.  What there is is force on the water in the form of a vortex because of the interaction between the magnetic field produced my the magnet and the direction of the current flow in the water.

MileHigh
« Last Edit: November 01, 2015, 10:07:46 PM by MileHigh »

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Re: ----> PROOF Magnets Have a SPINNING Magnetic Field
« Reply #77 on: November 01, 2015, 07:52:24 PM »
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Re: ----> PROOF Magnets Have a SPINNING Magnetic Field
« Reply #78 on: November 02, 2015, 08:24:25 AM »
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Re: ----> PROOF Magnets Have a SPINNING Magnetic Field
« Reply #79 on: November 02, 2015, 02:11:38 PM »
 Magnetvortex videos..Showing Water tornado under water with "No spin where is only an iron slug"..
SHOCKING VIDEOS !!!

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd2IyoBl2ag
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAl1LVPbYhY
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaMf1aq6Njg

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Re: ----> PROOF Magnets Have a SPINNING Magnetic Field
« Reply #79 on: November 02, 2015, 02:11:38 PM »
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Re: ----> PROOF Magnets Have a SPINNING Magnetic Field
« Reply #80 on: November 02, 2015, 02:26:09 PM »
 Tornado Unter Wasser Viktor Schauberger Vortex Spin Bonn Germany  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1TnGGeeP0I
 
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Re: ----> PROOF Magnets Have a SPINNING Magnetic Field
« Reply #81 on: November 02, 2015, 06:58:28 PM »
Acca:

You are trying to do a zombie walk but the problem is that Halloween is over.  So you can't just walk past my postings like a zombie and pretend that you don't see them.

When you are learning about magnetism, the simple concept is "the force on a current-carrying wire in a magnetic field."  That's simpler and easier to understand.  Yes indeed, it is the Lorentz force.

You say, "Lorentz deflection is missing where there is no magnet!!"  - NO KIDDING - there is not supposed to be any Lorentz force when you remove the magnet.

Then you say, "MAGNETS HAVE A SPIN VORTEX!" - NO THAT'S WRONG - a simple analysis of the geometry of the setup shows that the water forms a vortex because of the Lorentz forces on the current-carrying water.

In your aquarium tests, a thin tube of water that has current flowing through it is equivalent to a current-carrying wire.  It's as simple as that and there is no such thing as a "spin vortex" associated with a magnet.

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Re: ----> PROOF Magnets Have a SPINNING Magnetic Field
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Re: ----> PROOF Magnets Have a SPINNING Magnetic Field
« Reply #82 on: November 03, 2015, 02:56:38 PM »
Here is PROOF TO ALL FORUM MEMBERS THAT MAGNETISM IS NOT  WHAT YOU BEEN TOLD !!!

Ken Wheeler wrote:

http://kathodos.com/magnetismsmall.pdf[/font]

Of all the types of people who have ever lived, there are only four types of gatekeepers of the mind.

1. The gatekeeper of the mind which lets in everything, this is the most common type in the world.

2. The gatekeeper of the mind which lets in nothing, this is the second most common type; of those that are sure they are right, and all  others are wrong.

3. The gatekeeper of the mind which lets in those things it likes or agrees with and not those things it does not like or agree with, even if those things are true and wise. This is the third most common type.

4. The gatekeeper of the mind which judges things as wise and logical, and lets those things in, and judges things as unwise and irrational and bars them from entry into the mind. This type of gatekeeper of the mind is the most sublime and rare. Open minds are only good up to a point at which nonsense, lies, and irrational chaos is allowed to enter.

Closed minds are only good up to a point where things wise and true are barred entry. At this point we must agree that wholly open minds are bad, and wholly closed minds are equally as bad.


“If you were to tell someone close to you that ‘there is utterly no such thing as magnetic attraction’, they would inquire as to your
medication or wonder what the punch line is.

The very premise, from countless thousands of years past to the present, as evidenced from ‘magnets’ accelerating nails, iron bits, and ferrous objects to the ‘magnet’, and ‘opposite poles attracting/accelerating towards each other’, is as deeply ingrained in the human consciousness as the Sun rising in the East every morning.

The ancient lie, this perceptual titanic error is as innate as breathing. As is the case, all attraction (and ‘repulsion’) is governed by dielectricity, not magnetism, which is the ‘dielectric field’ -Faraday, which in discharging, is the radiation Ether-modality we call magnetism.
 That magnetism is reaching out in space is not in question, however radiation only displaces things, as in the case of magnetism, causes an inductive reaction at the interatomic magneto-dielectric of ferrous objects, thereby causing dielectric coherency from magnetic displacement and resultant acceleration to the ‘magnet’ as the act of dielectric voidance.

Radiation attracts nothing. Soon you will find out the simplex nature of the “magnet” which is powered by dielectric coherency (either I.D.C. induced dielectric coherency, or I.D.C.C. induced dielectric capacitance and coherency) and likewise you will have a clear, lucid, logical, coherent, proved understanding of magnets and magnetism that explains all observed phenomena of same” -

That the term ‘magnet’ comes from, in earliest times, the word for ‘magic’ can tell you 5000 years of the fascination of humanity into,
not magnets specifically, but their fields and action at a distance -

Acca...

p.s.

Ken Wheeler is THE GREATEST DISCOVERER of MAGNETISM !!!

and ..  a post  that says this : ....."Then you say, "MAGNETS HAVE A SPIN VORTEX!" - NO THAT'S WRONG"  by MileHigh ( this forum member)

Here above is a "typical comment from a brain washed citizen" who really is convinced the he is really right and will try to debate through pictures and force that he is right.. A type of a religious mind set the will NOT change and that type of a mindset only can be removed by re-education like what they do in psychological hospitals (mental wards)..

Don't let these TYPE of citizens bully you to their side as they have a very convincing "scientific dogmatic support" by the way WRONG Too.. 

Scientists are the biggest brainwashed citizens of them ALL... Not all just majority of them !!!

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Re: ----> PROOF Magnets Have a SPINNING Magnetic Field
« Reply #83 on: November 03, 2015, 04:57:37 PM »
Acca:

So, clearly you are unable to make a technical argument to advance your proposition.  I will simply repeat that what you are observing is simply a normal thing, magnetic fields will put force on a wire that has current flowing through it.  The wire in this case is made of water, go figure.  This is simple basic Magnetics 101 that any astute high school student would understand after doing the research.  You make claims in your clips that "science doesn't understand this" when nothing could be further from the truth.  You are the person that does not understand what you are observing when you run your tests.  I just explained it to you in detail yet you are acting like your own worst gatekeeper.

"3. The gatekeeper of the mind which lets in those things it likes or agrees with and not those things it does not like or agree with, even if those things are true and wise."

The philosophical musings that you posted to "rebut" what I stated are really about you, not me.

MileHigh

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Re: ----> PROOF Magnets Have a SPINNING Magnetic Field
« Reply #83 on: November 03, 2015, 04:57:37 PM »
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