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Offline MagnaProp

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Re: ----> PROOF Magnets Have a SPINNING Magnetic Field
« Reply #60 on: October 17, 2015, 08:27:03 AM »
World saved!...
Nah we're still screwed but at least we have free energy now in our remaining days. I take some solace in knowing there are other species out there like us, such as the bark beetle that consumes until there is nothing left. As great as he was, even Tesla stopped building his free energy device when his shop was burned down and he decided there would be no real industry use for his machine since it didn't spit out gobs of energy. Every single genius for one reason or another hides his free energy ideas either by giving it to wealthy people to shelve or just simply holding on to it until it dies with them. Just human nature. Still cool to see what he did with the magnets here though.

So I'm guessing you think it's some kind of galvanic chemical reaction between the metals that make up the magnets and the liquid he has in there? Once the metal in the magnets is eaten up, the reaction will stop? I'm rather ignorant on the possible ways to do electrolysis so I don't know if the reaction without electricity is unique or just showing the bubble vortex with no electricity is unique? I'll try this with some dirty alka-seltzer pills and see how far I get.

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« Reply #61 on: October 17, 2015, 10:33:31 PM »
Nah we're still screwed but at least we have free energy now in our remaining days. I take some solace in knowing there are other species out there like us, such as the bark beetle that consumes until there is nothing left. As great as he was, even Tesla stopped building his free energy device when his shop was burned down and he decided there would be no real industry use for his machine since it didn't spit out gobs of energy. Every single genius for one reason or another hides his free energy ideas either by giving it to wealthy people to shelve or just simply holding on to it until it dies with them. Just human nature. Still cool to see what he did with the magnets here though.

So I'm guessing you think it's some kind of galvanic chemical reaction between the metals that make up the magnets and the liquid he has in there? Once the metal in the magnets is eaten up, the reaction will stop? I'm rather ignorant on the possible ways to do electrolysis so I don't know if the reaction without electricity is unique or just showing the bubble vortex with no electricity is unique? I'll try this with some dirty alka-seltzer pills and see how far I get.

If what you say is true, then what's wrong with free energy geniuses?  Are they all sick in the head?  Isn't there at least one single man or woman out there that will freely offer their free energy tech to the world to save millions of lives from starvation and prevent wars over oil and all that stuff?  Are they all little greedy trolls that hide their tech and die with it because every single one of them is holding out for money?

I have a feeling the supposed "magnetic fizz" is purely chemical in nature.  There is no rational reason at all to expect a magnet to split water just like magic.  Put a magnet in water for three months straight and see if it is still fizzing.

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« Reply #62 on: October 17, 2015, 11:33:34 PM »
There is actually no such thing as a "north pole" and a "south pole."  They simply don't exist in real life.

"North pole" and "south pole" are nothing more than naming conventions to make it easier to discuss magnets and practical applications for magnets.

You don't believe me?

You have a long long straight wire with one amp of DC current flowing through it.   We know that there is a magnetic field around the wire due to the current flow.

So, for the case of the long straight wire, where is the north pole and where is the south pole?

I know that it seems counter-intuitive, but you just have to think about it for a while.  You can clearly see that there is a "north pole" on one end of a bar magnet and a "south pole" on the other end.  But then when you look at the example of the long straight wire, there is no way of defining a "north pole" and a "south pole."   So how do you resolve these two seemingly contradictory things?


^^^^^^ good example
this is just an example of how rediculous it is that in 2015 , people are voluntarily SELF bound to ideas and thoughts of people of the 1800s
those learned types of the 1800s never knew anything beyond 1900 . 115 years later and the ideas , thoughts and HYPOTHESIS of those people are forced as so called education .

HOJO = Howard Johnson studied magnets for 50 or 60 odd years , his work is more relevant than any thing any one did in the 1800s , it is at the very least more RECENT!!

maverick researchers are looking for anomalies , they have a human curiosity that you just cant find in most people . you could say it doesnt exist  :-\

laws of thermodynamics are well worth throwing in the garbage simply because they are a complete STRANGERS view of the world that THEY once lived in
 
people today still talk about horse power , the same people havent even seen a horse!!
whats a horse got to do with anything ?  nothing , it was never relevant, just 1 mans attempt at inventing a benchmark , 'the horse power ruler/gauge'

Ive got 'energy from the vacuum' dvd , theres a bit on HOJO , there is definitely something there where he says theres something . he devoted a large chunk of his life to that something , so did Floyd Pink , another interesting character

so for average born consumers which most of us are , there are certain people that are different and have a natural curiosity that can not be explained and they certainly are not bound by any laws of physics as outlined circa 1800-1900 , that would be absolutely rediculous foundation to stand upon.

the so called education system pins those limitations on young minds that never develope the curiosity

Im yet to read HOJOs book "discovering magnetism"- 1970 .  spintronics ... 

verrrryyy curious  ;)

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« Reply #63 on: October 18, 2015, 12:51:50 AM »
If what you say is true, then what's wrong with free energy geniuses?  Are they all sick in the head?...
It's just human nature to want something of value in return for something you already have, be it $ and or acknowledgement that the something was yours to begin with. If you don't think you get something of value in turn, then you don't release the something that you have. It is absolutely a form of greed, self worth, what ever you want to call it. I call it human nature. This "greed" is more prevalent in some than in others. This "greed/self wroth" for some can simply be a self motivating force that we can go good things with and not just bad. Without some form of greed/self motivation, then you could release what you have for free, not caring if it dies right away or not, which isn't necessarily very helpful either.

...Isn't there at least one single man or woman out there that will freely offer their free energy tech to the world to save millions of lives from starvation and prevent wars over oil and all that stuff?...
That person would live in a sea of people that have strong greed and self worth that would want all profits and recognition from it. So to get it out there that person would have to be at least as greedy and have just as much self worth to fight against those that would try to stop them. That willingness and ability to fight those that would stop such a thing, is the most rarest combination of them all. I don't think any such person has occurred yet since such a fight can't be fought alone. It's much easier to just close up shop and not release that something that you have. Net result being the same as from those that would fight you.

5 hour energy drink man is the closest I have seen so far. It remains to be seen if this billionaire, and others that may follow, are truly trying to help or just investing in other emerging businesses. I think desalination will be big business in 10 years. We'll see how many of these devices they "give" away or just how high they jack up the price for the water they produce. Even Bill Gates gives away millions to charities and holds patents for cooling the worlds oceans, but I don't think we regard him as the worlds savior.

I have a feeling the supposed "magnetic fizz" is purely chemical in nature...
Acca mentions it may be a galvanic reaction in his video if I recall correctly. So he might just be showing us the vortex formation without electricity probes being used on the magnet. Maybe he can clarify this for me?

Acca is willing to share the videos and even the sources from which he got the idea from so that's a good start in getting it out there for those willing to do the hard work that Acca has already done. For that I do thank him in sharing.

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Re: ----> PROOF Magnets Have a SPINNING Magnetic Field
« Reply #64 on: October 18, 2015, 01:12:04 AM »
This is what I think north poles and south poles are. I think it's Ed Leedskalnin spinning magetic flux/ether field lines. He said they spin both directions again each other and equally. I think we get a current in a wire when they spin unequally when one direction is slightly stronger than the other so it becomes the dominate or relevant direction.

This image is what I think is attraction and repulsion based on the dominate ether flow spin direction. If they crash into each other like gears with hooks spinning in opposite directions, then it's attraction. If they spin in the same direction at the point of intersection then we get repulsion. I think when attraction happens, it sucks in more ether making the attraction potentially stronger than what can be achieved with repulsion. This could be in a short wire or an infinitely long wire or loop of wire.

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Re: ----> PROOF Magnets Have a SPINNING Magnetic Field
« Reply #65 on: October 18, 2015, 01:30:33 AM »
Oops double post  :P

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« Reply #66 on: October 18, 2015, 03:33:31 AM »

I was looking into this a few days ago , attraction force . I was trying to find out about a PM vs ferrite which is only temporary .

http://www.supermagnete.de/eng/faq/Is-the-attraction-between-magnets-as-high-as-the-repulsion

Ed Ledskalnin could have been more direct with his thoughts in stead of being mysterious .
Howard Johnsons associate made a mapping unit from ex navy destroyer surplus . it was able to map the field of a magnet .
Conventional concepts of a static mag field are out dated .

http://www.cheniere.org/misc/johnson.htm

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Re: ----> PROOF Magnets Have a SPINNING Magnetic Field
« Reply #67 on: October 18, 2015, 09:32:46 PM »
There is actually no such thing as a "north pole" and a "south pole."  They simply don't exist in real life.

"North pole" and "south pole" are nothing more than naming conventions to make it easier to discuss magnets and practical applications for magnets.

You don't believe me?

You have a long long straight wire with one amp of DC current flowing through it.   We know that there is a magnetic field around the wire due to the current flow.

So, for the case of the long straight wire, where is the north pole and where is the south pole?

I know that it seems counter-intuitive, but you just have to think about it for a while.  You can clearly see that there is a "north pole" on one end of a bar magnet and a "south pole" on the other end.  But then when you look at the example of the long straight wire, there is no way of defining a "north pole" and a "south pole."   So how do you resolve these two seemingly contradictory things?

The wire's magnetized "Radially"; The "north pole" is on the outside of the wire and the "south pole" is hidden on the inside.

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Re: ----> PROOF Magnets Have a SPINNING Magnetic Field
« Reply #68 on: October 19, 2015, 03:52:04 PM »
@sonchro1:


So. . . you're saying the straight-wire is functionally and practically the same as a monopole? Because the "south pole" (as you say) is completely hidden on the inside? (I'm not picking any fight, just trying to understand).

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« Reply #69 on: October 29, 2015, 12:15:21 PM »
http://www.cheniere.org/techpapers/HJLabMemo1(11%20Jun%2096).doc http://www.cheniere.org/techpapers/on_extracting_EM%20energy.htm[/font]
Acca..

p.s.

Here is the "secret" to magnets..

Howard R. Johnson
June 1, 1919 to January 2, 2008
In Memoriam by Tom Bearden

 
 Sadly, one of the real pioneers and inspirations in the emerging field of magnetic energy from the vacuum via asymmetric magnetic systems has passed away early in January. Howard Johnson was a truly noble person and my friend for many years, during which time he introduced me to several novel effects in magnets and magnetic materials, and freely showed me the results of his years of very hard effort. Twice to my personal knowledge he did successfully build a self-rotating permanent magnet machine, only to have it promptly stolen in professional break-ins to his laboratory.  In memoriam, I wish to tell a little of Howard's life and achievements, and to express my strong personal appreciation for his having been my good friend for three decades.
Howard Richmond Johnson was born at Wise, Virginia on June 1, 1919 and passed away on Jan. 2, 2008 in Blacksburg, Virginia. He is survived by his beloved wife Gladys, a brother Alvin P. Johnson, and five children: (1) Laura Ruth Marthas, (2) Linda Knoblet, (3) Donald Johnson, (4) Elizabeth Basle, and (5) John Johnson. His father and mother, William Andrew Johnson and Ida Crouse Johnson, are deceased, as are his three brothers Albert B. Johnson, William H. Johnson, and Calvin B. Johnson.
According to Science & Mechanics, Johnson was and is directly connected with (and responsible for) more than 30 patents in significant chemistry and physics apparatuses and processes.
Howard graduated from the Christopher Gist High School in Pound in 1940. From there he attended Scarritt College in Nashville and obtained an AB degree in 1943, and then did three years of graduate work in those science areas that so interested him. In the U.S. Navy in WW II, he developed a better system for coding and decoding. It was accepted by the Navy and patented; and it is still highly classified. As the director of Howard Johnson Electrostatics & Electronics from 1948 to 1950, he developed a new painless electromagnetic hypodermic and invented an electrostatic dispersal unit for the microtome (a medical machine used for slicing imbedded tissues to put on slides for microscopic diagnosis). As an Engineer in the Experimental Reactor Division of the Atomic Energy Commission in Oak Ridge Tennessee from 1950 to 1952, he developed pump seals for 1500° F and two lubricants for this temperature. From 1952 to 1958, as the Director of Electronics & Electrostatics, Inc. he developed switches and also new methods of silencing various types of equipment, for the CIA and the U.S. Military. He also produced and delivered 100,000 units to outboard customers, including several highly classified products, in 18 months. One of his ceramic mufflers renders a motor-generator silent at about 50 feet; this is a production unit and well tested. He has produced classified mufflers for small motors, e.g., that render a chain saw's motor "silent to the listener's ear" at about 12 to 15 feet.
From 1958 to 1960 he was the Director of Research at Sorrells Johnson Corp. From 1960 to 1966 he was a consultant and also directed his own research laboratory. From 1966 to 1968 he was a chemistry instructor at Cedarville College, Cedarville, Ohio.
From 1968 to 1972 he was a Senior Research Chemist in the Research Division of Kelsey Hayes Corp. Here he developed a new type of 92 pole permanent magnet generator and also developed non-locking brake materials for automobiles and motorcycles.
From 1972 until his death in 2008 he was the Director of Research & Development for his own company, the Permanent Magnet Research Institute in Blacksburg, Virginia. There he was very noted for his work to attain asymmetric and thus finally self-powering permanent magnet systems, experimenting with hundreds of designs and build-ups and with several very novel but legitimate magnetic effects that do provide the necessary broken symmetry in the magnetic assemblies themselves. One such little known but useful highly asymmetric effect is the evocation of the exchange force violent magnetic pulse in materials, producing a sudden, momentary magnetic field which may two or three hundred times as strong as the normal magnetic field being used. Several of his magnetic motor approaches used the self-evoking of this pulsed very strong exchange force to momentarily overcome the back mmf region magnetic force field, thus producing a self-rotating asymmetric permanent magnet motor.
For many years, Howard worked closely with Professor William Harrison and his associates at Virginia Polytechnic Institute there in Blacksburg, Virginia. Professor Harrison developed mathematical modeling and detailed computerized measuring of the specially shaped magnetic fields surrounding Johnson's asymmetric magnets and their movements. This was a valuable help to Johnson in optimizing and testing his experimental designs.
In any permanent magnet motor or propulsion unit, it is the broken symmetry created in the magnetic fields of the magnets that provides the propulsive power. We may either put in a coil or some such and then "pay" for the energy pulsing ourselves, necessary to break that symmetry in the back mmf region. Or, we may utilize some of nature's asymmetry mechanisms to get the materials themselves to freely furnish that broken symmetry at the precise timing and in the precise direction to momentarily overcome and eliminate the back mmf.  In that case, the motor shaft and flywheel accelerates in the forward mmf zone, and does not decelerate in the usual back mmf zone because that zone either has been zeroed or even reversed momentarily. So the shaft and flywheel gain free extra angular momentum (energy x time) on every rotation, and a drag load can then be added to the shaft to decelerate the shaft and flywheel back to "normal", thus being freely powered by the free angular momentum transferred to the load.
My personal friend and close colleague Ken Moore professionally and independently measured one of Howard's propulsive gates here in Huntsville, and meticulously verified its "free propulsive kick" that Johnson had successfully obtained.
While it does not appear in the terribly flawed classical electrical engineering (put together in the 1880s and then arbitrarily symmetrized in 1892 by Lorentz, to eliminate all Johnson-type asymmetric systems), since 1957 and the award of the Nobel Prize to Lee and Yang for their prediction of widespread broken symmetry in physics, we have known that every dipole (e.g., a magnet with separated north and south poles) is a broken symmetry. And as Nobelist Lee states, when we have a broken symmetry, then something previously virtual has become observable. So the broken symmetry of a magnetic dipole freely absorbs virtual photon energy from its ongoing seething interaction with the active virtual state vacuum, coherently sums the successive virtual excitations to the quantum level, and then re-emits a real observable photon - real, usable EM energy, that has been extracted from the seething vacuum. The automatic summation and quantal emission process is ongoing and iterative, so any magnetic (or electrical) dipole continually extracts virtual energy from the active vacuum and outputs the energy as cohered quanta - real, usable, EM energy continuously and freely emitted from the source dipole.
The easiest way to prove this is to lay a charged capacitor or electret across a permanent magnet, so that the E-field of the electrical component is at right angles to the H-field of the magnet. Then by every conventional electrical engineering university textbook in its Poynting energy flow section, that silly gadget will sit there and freely and continuously pour out (emit) real Poynting energy flow S, given by the simple equation S = E ´ H. And if we just leave the simple gadget alone, it will continue to freely pour out real, usable EM energy until the end of time.
Yet there is no observable (quantal) EM energy being input to that device. There is instead the continuous input of virtual (subquantal) energy from the vacuum, and integration of the absorbed virtual state energy into the emitted observable energy. While this is totally outside normal electrical engineering (which erroneously assumes the vacuum to be inert), it is good "modern physics" as shown by Lee and Yang. Again, Nobelist Lee himself pointed out that, whenever we have such a broken symmetry, something virtual becomes observable.
The dipole and its broken symmetry do indeed obey the extended conservation of energy law. But the input energy is in virtual form (subquantal), while the output energy is in observable (quantal) form. But there is no creation of energy from "nothing" in the permissible free energy device.
The world-shackling electrical engineering problem is that, since the arbitrary Lorentz symmetrization of electrical engineering mathematical model in 1892, our electrical engineers have built only symmetrical overall systems - systems which use half their collected free quantal energy from the vacuum to destroy their own source dipolarity faster than they use part of the other half of the free "real EM energy from the vacuum" to power the loads. So to provide a proper "EM energy windmill" capable of (1)  separately intercepting and collecting part of that free EM energy wind from that permanent magnet and its crossed electret, and then (2)  separately dissipating this collected free energy in the loads to power them freely, one must build an asymmetric "EM energy windmill" system. And that is impossible by present electrical engineering standards which only prescribe and permit symmetrical EM systems.
So it is the severe crippling of our standard electrical engineering that is responsible for the world energy crisis and - if we ever wish to permanently and cleanly solve the energy crisis - then the classical EM model must be corrected and seriously updated to add back the asymmetrical Maxwellian systems presently arbitrarily discarded by Lorentz.
Johnson's epochal work was a very long example of his struggle to build just such long-neglected asymmetrical magnetic systems, which - permissibly - would then freely self-rotate and power the loads, continually and freely "energized" by virtual state energy freely received from the seething vacuum.
Howard had found several effects (notably the exchange force effect discussed in Nobelist Feynman's three volumes of sophomore physics) which could be evoked and, if evoked with sufficient controlled precision of timing and direction, each could break the symmetry of his magnetic propulsion gates and his rotating machines precisely so as to allow self-powering.
Sadly, the major problem that Howard had all those years was the lack of the very substantial funds necessary to afford high precision machining and cutting of his nonlinear magnets used to make asymmetric assemblies and to evoke the necessary asymmetric forces and pulses. So he personally cut his magnetic materials with a diamond saw himself, which meant that it was nearly impossible for him to attain the "couple thousandths of an inch" precision necessary for the exact timing and directional control of the desired "symmetry-breaking" effects to be evoked.
Nonetheless, he did succeed on at least two occasions. One of those successful self-rotating Johnson machines (in the 1970s) had his magnetic assemblies mounted on a crude "Lazy Susan" turntable. He brought the operating machine down to Huntsville for me to see and examine closely. And I personally played with that machine, with the stator magnet assembly rigidly C-clamped to the table, and the little turntable rotor and rotor magnet just went around and around, slowly but continuously for about two hours - continuously doing real, free work by physically displacing air and overcoming the friction resistance of the crude bearings.
On Howard's return to Blacksburg, very shortly a break-in occurred at his lab, and the only thing taken from the several hundred thousand dollars worth of assemblies, magnets, etc. was his successful rotary prototype device.
Howard's improvements on the early microtome were patented and are used in medical centers and clinics and at Johns Hopkins Hospital. His improvements on signal coding and decoding are still classified and in the capable hands of our U.S. military. His brake work and muffler work are also still in use.
For many years his major backer was a Blacksburg realtor, Mr. William Price. William also personally furnished Howard the basement of a nice brick farmhouse, in which to locate his laboratory and keep all his equipment and buildups. The sheer labor and large numbers of different kinds of buildups that Howard produced simply boggle the mind.
My own deep regret is that Howard never had the huge funds required to set up a highly skilled and professional team and pay them to do the necessary work and buildups in parallel, and to use very high precision machining of all his designs and parts. His asymmetric mechanisms were and are quite real and were and are consistent with modern physics - although they were and are understandably inconsistent with the hoary old seriously-flawed 1880s and 1890s symmetrized electrical engineering.
A few typical Howard Johnson patents are:
Johnson, Howard R., "Permanent Magnet Motor." U.S. Patent No. 4,151,431. Apr. 24, 1979.
 
Johnson, Howard R., "Magnetic Propulsion System," U.S. Patent No. 5,402,021. Mar. 28, 1995.
 
Johnson, Howard R., "Magnetic Force Generating Method and Apparatus," U.S. Patent No. 4,877,983, Oct. 31, 1989.
Johnson, Howard R., "Pulse Noise Reducer," U.S. Patent No. 3,838,749, Oct. 1, 1974.
Johnson, Howard R. "Muffler," U.S. Patent No. 3,779,339, Dec. 18, 1973.
Johnson, Howard R. "Muffler with plural side branch chambers." U.S. Patent No. 2,566,939, Sept. 1951.
Johnson, H. "Outboard motor air intake." U.S. Patent No. 2,914,133, Oct. 1959.
We also point out that in physics there are more than 200 named effects in magnetics. And only about half of them are understood. The other half range from "poorly understood a little bit" to "totally not understood at all". For many of these effects, I strongly suggest the latest edition of Cullity's original 1972 book. The new edition is B. D. Cullity and C. D. Graham, Introduction to Magnetic Materials, Wiley-IEEE Press, 2nd Edition, 2007. Howard Johnson used the original 1972 Cullity book for decades, and introduced me to it decades ago. The Cullity book gives these effects in very clear and simple manner, so the new user can readily understand and use them.
In finale, with Johnson's sad passing we have lost one of our great magnetics pioneers and researchers. He was a good and moral man, religious, devoted to his wife and family, and resoundingly liked by just about everyone who came to know him. He showed me so many new things, new principles, and effects that it made a profound difference in my personal orientation and in the direction I took after Howard became my friend and inspiration.
Our greatest condolences and deepest heartfelt sympathy go to Howard's family and his close associates. We are very conscious of your great loss, and the loss of a noble and highly inspiring human being. But as Howard so well knew, death is not the end, and it is my firm belief that he has gone on to a far better state and situation. To the end of my life I will strongly continue to treasure my many years of association with Howard, and to appreciate the many insights he gave me. He was a truly great researcher, a pioneer, and a great human being, and we are all forever saddened by his departure.
Most sincerely,
Tom Bearden
29 March 2008
 
 
 




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Re: ----> PROOF Magnets Have a SPINNING Magnetic Field
« Reply #70 on: October 30, 2015, 08:11:58 AM »
Howard certainly appears to have been no slouch when it comes to real science. I'm curious why he never kept a working model of his permanent magnet motor on hand to show people that were interested. The patent is publicly available so the info isn't classified. It doesn't appear that he was trying to hide the info, so why no working model to show? Did he come up with the idea near the end of his life and just ran out of time to build a working model? I've seen several cases where the inventor simply ran out of time. Such a shame.

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« Reply #71 on: October 30, 2015, 09:03:55 AM »
Howard Johnson has working models and they are on the DVD

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« Reply #72 on: October 30, 2015, 10:47:57 AM »
 Here is more clips about magnetic "VORTEX"...

........................and another man who wants 200 million for his "magnetmotor"

Acca...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd2IyoBl2ag

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Unbreakable Real "Extra free energy" next generation of magnets engines built by oren gertel   
 
Published on Aug 29, 2015
Crank wheel connection option with or without magnets,
 Machine speed causes the production of electricity by generators,
 Battery Charge option! Capacitor load option! And movement options!
 THIS IS Mechanical Sketches Demo VIDEO! Magnetic Fields IS Not Visible!!! There is many configurations that can do with this Ornithopter Engine That Invented & Patent by GERTEL OREN!
 The invention can be used for straight or boost engines, & rotation engines! You can use it for boat engines, Wings engine could also fly with wings! Economical use with no mechanical wear!! And for any purposeֱ... Scooter engines , bike engines, energy engines combined with vibration!-_-!
 My name is Oren Gertel and i build this magnets engine!! It's all for a better future in the energy sector soon! magnets and magnetic machines!! hard work was to build a machine like that! I do not try to hide anything in any of these invention! This "mechanical sketch" that can shows the capabilities of this engine in the future!!
 This Is The Ornithopter Engine
 This engine used battery and electric motor!
 For future use The system is the heart of some of the large system, the heart of the system is significant to run a big machine,By some few volts can operate the machine, and by so , can work long hours!! or days (2 stroke magnet engine! For example motors sketches!) Shows that can be moved by magnets without gears or belt or any connection! and use a small electric motor, and low power consumption and heavy crankshafts rotate high speed without any contact, Since there is no friction between the parts of the magnets and do not touch each other! No warming! not need gas gasoline or diesel ,only battery
 A machine that works with a huge magnetic force, Centrifugal force, a linear movement,Magnet crankshaft is not connected!
 After the examination, the value of this invention is $ 200 million ,
 If you decide to copy it making it possible that you pay the price of $ 200 million ,
 This engine Patented invention
 made by oren gertel
 gerteloren@gmail.com

Offline MileHigh

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Re: ----> PROOF Magnets Have a SPINNING Magnetic Field
« Reply #73 on: October 30, 2015, 11:28:15 PM »
Well Acca....

I have stated over and over that there is no spinning vortex associated with a magnetic field.   I have asked you to explain your aquarium experiments with the swirling bubbles many times and you have refused to even acknowledge the question.  I have stated many times that an astute high school kid in his or her grade 12 physics class could figure it out for themselves if said student applied themselves and did the research.

So, please review the attached diagram.  After years of making your claims now is the time for you to really figure it out.  Please explain to us why you see a swirling vortex when you run your aquarium experiments.

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Re: ----> PROOF Magnets Have a SPINNING Magnetic Field
« Reply #74 on: October 31, 2015, 12:23:28 PM »
Knock your self out !! 1963 go figure ??

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