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Author Topic: Motor/Motor Self Runner... A Hoax!  (Read 17114 times)

Offline FatBird

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Re: Astonishing Motor/Motor Self Runner!
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2015, 06:30:18 PM »
@ Dieter,  With all due respect sir, what is your proof?


1.  Do you expect us to just take your word for it as an "all knowing" guru?
2.  Are you asking us to respect your "All Knowing" virtual intelligence?
3.  Again, where's your proof that it's a fake?

LOL                                                                                                    .

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Re: Astonishing Motor/Motor Self Runner!
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Astonishing Motor/Motor Self Runner!
« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2015, 06:57:59 PM »
Some people would believe a talking severed head, if it appeared on YouTube and showed a glowing lightbulb in its mouth.

"where's your proof that it's a fake"... Hey, it's a _severed head_.

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Re: Astonishing Motor/Motor Self Runner!
« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2015, 07:03:59 PM »
@ Dieter,  With all due respect sir, what is your proof?


1.  Do you expect us to just take your word for it as an "all knowing" guru?
2.  Are you asking us to respect your "All Knowing" virtual intelligence?
3.  Again, where's your proof that it's a fake?

LOL                                                                                                    .
Of course it isn't fake.  The dual motor is presented and both motors spin under certain conditions.  It is the viewer who must decide whether the power source is in view or not.

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Re: Astonishing Motor/Motor Self Runner!
« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2015, 07:03:59 PM »
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Offline mscoffman

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Re: Astonishing Motor/Motor Self Runner!
« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2015, 07:06:01 PM »
Fatbird,

Overunity energy still has to come from somewhere. Smaller devices will have
more problem intercepting anything, so seeing something that seems efficiency,
energy and impedance mismatched probably is, especially if it looks easy to
make.
 

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Re: Astonishing Motor/Motor Self Runner!
« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2015, 07:06:51 PM »
Fatbird you can believe whatever you want, but be aware of the fact that many "free energy!" videos are fake, and by not recognizing even an obvious one you don't enhance your reputation around here, and by here  I mean not the naysayers, but those who truely search for overunity.


BR


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Re: Astonishing Motor/Motor Self Runner!
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Offline 4Tesla

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Re: Astonishing Motor/Motor Self Runner!
« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2015, 07:07:06 PM »
I wonder where he got the video from.. from looking at the videos uploaded on that channel.. they are from various sources.  I don't know if MileHigh watched the whole video, but he does turn the device on its side while running.  Every video can be called fake.. that is useless input.. would be better if someone explained why and how it is a fake.

ETA: If anyone wondering.. I think this is the motor:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/261727209934?lpid=82&chn=ps

Offline MileHigh

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Re: Astonishing Motor/Motor Self Runner!
« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2015, 07:43:28 PM »
You guys are just unbelievable sometimes in your gullibility and complete and total lack of common sense.  It's shocking sometimes.  FatBird, you wouldn't recognize under unity if it bit you in the ass so hard that it left bruises and teeth marks for a week.  Do you think over unity is just springing up like mushrooms everywhere all the time and we are just too stupid to see it?  It's takes some Jow Blow to rewire two motors and the secret was under our noses all the time?

Those stupid little induction motors have probably been around since the 1920s and have been manufactured in the billions.  So how come the news is breaking just now?  Huh?

You know that the law says that sometimes you can be so stupid that even though there was no criminal intent or negligence that you have to go to jail anyway?  Some of you are jailbirds on common-sense life support.

I watched the clip and pondered it for a minute.  Then I said to myself that if he is going to do a bait-and-switch then he has to create an opportunity for a (nearly) undetectable discontinuity.  So then I said to myself that there must be a place where he removes both of his hands out of the video frame.  So then I watched the clip again.

And then, surprise surprise, starting at 1:29 both of his hands go out of the video frame.  Then all that you have to do is make the video full screen and use your brain to focus your vision so that you are looking at the entire frame of video at the same time.  At 1:31 you can clearly see that the image of the assembly takes a jump to the lower-right.  So there is your discontinuity.

He probably connected two blue wires.  There is standard PCB touch-up wire that comes in that colour.  It's 2015 and he is using a lousy 4:3 camera and the video is in 360P?  Any person that makes video clips with half a brain could run a softening filter on top of the entire video if they wanted to.  The entire video is soft.  You can probably buy a digital camera for $49 that has better video quality than what you see in that clip.

So one of those two motors is wired up to an external AC power source with two tiny blue wires.

How can you be so dumb as to believe that this is real?   The guy probably sits around with his buddies and a case of beer and they watch this and other sites to see when the gullible guppies will gobble it all up.  Some of you are just fish in a bloody aquarium tank (his monitor) for this guy to watch and have a half-dozen victory beers and a bunch of laughs the moment he hits the jackpot.  They may even have a betting pool as they watch the various forums to see which guppy bites first.

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Re: Astonishing Motor/Motor Self Runner!
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Offline 4Tesla

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Re: Astonishing Motor/Motor Self Runner!
« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2015, 08:35:27 PM »
I'm not saying it isn't fake, but I don't see small blue wires either.  You would think the light bulb would reveal the wires if they were there.. I just want to know how they did it.  The biggest red flag is the blue background and always sitting on the table.  Now if they picked it up and walked around the room, it would be more convincing.

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Re: Astonishing Motor/Motor Self Runner!
« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2015, 09:03:44 PM »
Just happened to have all that stuff handy. Wanted to see if I could fake it. I must have tried 10 different capacitors and the best it would do is about .035 volts. Runs fine on line voltage.L.O.L.

Vince

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Re: Astonishing Motor/Motor Self Runner!
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Re: Astonishing Motor/Motor Self Runner!
« Reply #24 on: January 23, 2015, 09:15:13 PM »
It is fake because:

I've come up with five pieces of evidence that leads one in the
direction of him producing a fake by the method I proposed. But
these do come up short of being a proof.

The strongest is that if you cut away parts of the motor frame
what better way is there to hold the remaining parts of the frame
together then to wire them together with thick gauge steel wire
in two places as he has done?

Often the most noticeable part of the device is to deflect
your attention from details. Enameled Copper wire ages, so
shinny wire generally to me means; "recently constructed'. 

Often fakes will avoid doing something that would easily help cement their
case but...in this case it would be willfully connecting the two lamp leads
together independently of the motor. Then too he could stop the motor/gen
with his fingers while the lamp is connected and we would watch as the
lamp light dies away do to certain physical constants.

But the clincher comes back to where a miniature
Qmogen is going to get it's excess energy. It probably
not going to get it from static electricity, or ground
currents, and having it run like a magnet motor would
make them possible. So it's going to have to run
as a motor generator, motor synchronous-alternator.

Motors can run as synchronous alternators but not very
well as there are no field stability circuits. So this leaves us
with having the motor approach the generator rpm from below
and lugging.

So the clincher is:
   if this is a 8watt led bulb loading down a Qmogen implemented
   from these fans which are less then 10Watts. One would expect
   significant slowing down of the RPM of these motors then lugging
   when the bulb is connected. But using the flickering of the rotor
   disk ones sees absolutely *nothing* no slowing down of effect
   whatsoever. Also this behavior would be seen in light intensity
   which generally here seems constant.   Can you say: "Bzzzz't"

  It would have to be a miracle to have this circuit shown be operating
  as claimed. And so I will leave this one to the care of Sterling Allan.
 

:S:MarkSCoffman

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Re: Astonishing Motor/Motor Self Runner!
« Reply #25 on: January 23, 2015, 09:27:04 PM »
Remake of a very old indian fake.


That you didn't know it doesn't make you look very experienced.


I can smell a fake even by the way the camera is held and the scene is lit...


Please try not to waste our time, by doing deeper research before posting. No offence tho, we are all learning.


BR

Dieter thanks for letting us know it is a remake.... the shame however belongs to the peddlers of deceit, not the deceived.

And just so you know. not everyone here is interested in looking experienced....

There is only one who I would call experienced, that is the Lord Jesus Christ. He was the one who showed Tesla what to do... Tesla wasn't any brighter than any one else, just another inventor, and as well, a rare engineer with a commendable humility. God put him here to do what he did, and it was God who gave him his polyphase induction vision, he did not originate it... God blesses the meek and shuns the proud....

The Lord is up to some amazing things right now, visit http://revelation12.ca and get an education that will stick with you forever. Then you will not have wasted your time on this post, you will have been blessed by it.


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Re: Astonishing Motor/Motor Self Runner!
« Reply #26 on: January 23, 2015, 09:29:52 PM »
Just happened to have all that stuff handy. Wanted to see if I could fake it. I must have tried 10 different capacitors and the best it would do is about .035 volts. Runs fine on line voltage.L.O.L.

Vince

Thanks Vince...

Offline 4Tesla

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Re: Astonishing Motor/Motor Self Runner!
« Reply #27 on: January 23, 2015, 09:43:42 PM »
Dieter thanks for letting us know it is a remake.... the shame however belongs to the peddlers of deceit, not the deceived.

And just so you know. not everyone here is interested in looking experienced....

There is only one who I would call experienced, that is the Lord Jesus Christ. He was the one who showed Tesla what to do... Tesla wasn't any brighter than any one else, just another inventor, and as well, a rare engineer with a commendable humility. God put him here to do what he did, and it was God who gave him his polyphase induction vision, he did not originate it... God blesses the meek and shuns the proud....

The Lord is up to some amazing things right now, visit http://revelation12.ca and get an education that will stick with you forever. Then you will not have wasted your time on this post, you will have been blessed by it.

You derailed the thread.  :)   But since you're off topic, did you know that those extra suns are just an illusion from the camera lens.

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Re: Astonishing Motor/Motor Self Runner!
« Reply #28 on: January 24, 2015, 01:54:42 AM »
Most Trolls & Nay-Sayers wouldn't recognize Over-Unity if it BIT THEM IN THE REAR.  LOL                                                                           

FatBird, the blue bird of unhappiness took his big fat cigar and branded your behind.   Do you have the courage to come back here and post that you were 100% dead wrong, AGAIN?   This is probably at least the 15th video in the last two years where you fell for a silly clip.

The guy was lazy with the sound.  At 4:40 you can clearly hear the switch clicking off-camera to restore power to make the bozo motor spin up again.

I don't know _exactly_ how he did it, but I am still sticking with my "Mylow" modus operandi with the blue wires of unhappiness powering the bozo motor.

Almost certainly he did not go through the trouble of sawing the thing in half to hide batteries somewhere inside.  The coils are shiny new because these motors are still being manufactured in the tens or hundreds of millions each year - the motors are brand new.  Likewise, the coils are obviously machine wound.  It would be impossible to rewind the coils by hand yourself and have it be that neat.  I seriously doubt that he went to the trouble of having a big honking magnetic field generator off to the side either.

He removed his hands from the video frame and then tried to solder his wires in place without moving the camera or the device.  He did a fairly good job of it, the lighting was the same, but he failed anyway.  I have hawk eyes for stuff like this.  Plus, with decent video editing software you can probably play with the colour space in the clip.  You can do something like make all colours within a certain range of blue all be rendered as exactly the same shade of blue.  That would guarantee that the wires would disappear.

Just Sayin, when you speak to Gerard Morin on the phone, for all you know he is getting some serious thrills when you do that.  It could even have a quasi-sexual angle, sort of like a flasher/exhibitionist that stands naked in the fifth-floor window of an office building and watches the rush hour traffic pass by in the street.  In other words, it's a perverse thrill (in his mind) to cultivate a bunch of followers and even engage in phone conversations with them.  There are all sorts of psychological syndromes that are similar to that.  One thing for sure, is that the clip that I saw and many other people saw was completely and utterly full of crap.  For anyone with experience in electric power and electronics, what was presented was a pathetic joke.

Look, if you can claim that you are getting big power out and you don't even show anything reasonable, like some voltage measurements or some clamp-on current measurements or a big honking fat load that is radiating a lot of heat, so much heat that you have to stand back - and you get some followers that don't even question that - that could be "very very exciting" for Gerard Morin.

It's a wonderful world with lots of fetishes, be they sexual fetishes or tech fetishes.  Some people can't have xes unless they are dressed like fireman with rubber boots and axes and helmets.  For sure there are people that get a huge rush out of the false attention that they can gather by making ridiculous claims.

I am not a psychiatrist, but certainly what I am suggesting is indeed real, and a real possibility for some of the crazy shenanigans that you see in the realm of free energy.  Just look at how many YouTube clips and Facebook postings have completely backfired on people.  They think that they are being cool or interesting and before you know it either they are laughing stock material for for the world when their video goes viral, or, the police are at their door to arrest them.

MileHigh

Case in POINT!!!!   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS74WjF2wOE

lol

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Re: Motor/Motor Self Runner... A Hoax!
« Reply #29 on: January 24, 2015, 10:08:37 AM »
A shaded pole motor as a generator ::)

 

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