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Author Topic: The Conspiracy Of Overunity And Overunity Reasearch  (Read 26032 times)

TommeyLReed

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Re: The Conspiracy Of Overunity And Overunity Reasearch
« Reply #30 on: January 22, 2015, 05:11:09 PM »
Wattsup DOC, LOL.

First of all, it's very clear that every week I see false free energy claims pop up on these forums. Ever wonder why?

I built enough stuff and did hundreds of video in the past, I don't care who seen them at all, in fact I change more youtube channels then you change your diapers!

If you think I'm impress with any of you guys, you're crazy, my point is that many of you claim to know stuff and can't even give a simple free energy unit to prove your case.

I did a pulse motor build off, not to show you or any others my skills. It was Tinman that challenge me to join it. I won hands down, because I don't follow the normal building circus!

I am calling out all of those that think they have what it takes to create free energy, while you all fart together I have a free energy device that creates 800 watts of solar power!

My point is to challenge all of those that make claims to man up, stop feeding these false videos every week on free energy forums!

Tom :o

MarkE

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Re: The Conspiracy Of Overunity And Overunity Reasearch
« Reply #31 on: January 22, 2015, 05:14:43 PM »
@Mark

That example is rather weak isn't it?, because the last time I checked atoms do not rest on tables.
The example simply demonstrated a macro level case where an energy state is preserved without further action.  There are many more examples where an energy state is maintained indefinitely.  Why then with such examples all around should anyone believe that at the atomic scale energy states cannot be maintained?
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The particle would seem to have an electric field which no one can explain which came from nowhere having no fundamental cause.
Are we back to the difference between observation and philosophy?
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The particle would seem to be in eternal motion near the speed of light. When the particle moves it produces another field we call a magnetic field which has no fundamental explanation ie. it appears as something however we do not know what this something is. Gravity would fall into this same scenario as well and while any fool can tell us what it does I have yet to hear any reasonable explanation concerning what it is.
I see you are onto philosophy.  That's grand.  How do any of your philosophical musings affect what we observe?
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Maybe we could start with something simple Mark, why does a particle have an electric field?. Where does it come from, why is it there, what is it?. I'm sure you have a very simple explanation you might share with us don't you?.
We observe the effects of the electric field.  We observe the effects of the electric force.  For questions as to what there was before there was anything you will have to mosey on over to the school of philosophy at your local university.
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profitis

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Re: The Conspiracy Of Overunity And Overunity Reasearch
« Reply #32 on: January 22, 2015, 05:15:47 PM »
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Sure buddy,go to my photograph of a nickel hydroxide ontop graphite/MnO2 cell there on that thread and ..replicate godamit.make it as powerful as you can.use all your chemicals

MarkE

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Re: The Conspiracy Of Overunity And Overunity Reasearch
« Reply #33 on: January 22, 2015, 05:16:50 PM »
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Sure buddy,go to my photograph of a nickel hydroxide ontop graphite/MnO2 cell there on that thread and ..replicate godamit.make it as powerful as you can.use all your chemicals
LOL, that's it, you posted a photograph.  You're a funny guy.

allcanadian

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Re: The Conspiracy Of Overunity And Overunity Reasearch
« Reply #34 on: January 22, 2015, 05:19:30 PM »
@Mark
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The specific subject was the con Steven Mark.  Where is the miraculous TPU today?  Suppressed by the Men In Black?  Grabbed by aliens?  One thing we know that it is not doing is powering either Steven Mark's home or anyone else's home.  Over the past decade VC's have dropped billions into energy projects some of very dubious value.  Steven Mark claimed to have a machine that would print money out of thin air.  It was almost as good as the Fed discount window.  All he would have to do is deliver on his claims.  So where is Steven Mark's "telescope" today?


On a shelf somewhere I imagine and he is probably sitting on his beach with an ice cold corona in hand thinking life just couldn't get any better. People who succeed don't worry about people like you and me Mark, it's all about the experience and moving forward. When I am sitting on my beach I will think of you and smile, I will think of the wonderful conversations we had and how warm the sand feels between my toes.
It is the way of our world.


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profitis

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Re: The Conspiracy Of Overunity And Overunity Reasearch
« Reply #35 on: January 22, 2015, 05:25:52 PM »
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 funny maybe,but poisonous,defintely.I thought that's what you wanted mark E,a photo of a replicable demo

TommeyLReed

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Re: The Conspiracy Of Overunity And Overunity Reasearch
« Reply #36 on: January 22, 2015, 05:34:55 PM »
Profitis,
 
You're a clown to show a picture, where is the real deal video of free energy claims?

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allcanadian

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Re: The Conspiracy Of Overunity And Overunity Reasearch
« Reply #37 on: January 22, 2015, 05:47:32 PM »
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We observe the effects of the electric field.  We observe the effects of the electric force.  For questions as to what there was before there was anything you will have to mosey on over to the school of philosophy at your local university.


Good answer, I always found it odd how one group of people seeking answers to the most fundamental questions such as those at the CERN particle accelerator are called scientists however other groups of people asking the same questions are called philosophers. It is odd that whenever I ask the question there is no response or the person simply avoids the question altogether such as you have here. I find it confusing, I ask a very simple question, what is an electric field fundamentally?, and all the very intelligent and knowledgeable people stop in their tracks like a deer stuck in our headlights.


Not to judge to harshly but when I found I had no real answers to the most important and most fundamental questions I can think of I figured it might be a good idea to find some answers... but that's just me.


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profitis

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Re: The Conspiracy Of Overunity And Overunity Reasearch
« Reply #38 on: January 22, 2015, 05:54:14 PM »
Anybody can show a video or picture @ tommy reed.how many can show a testable principal?

MarkE

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Re: The Conspiracy Of Overunity And Overunity Reasearch
« Reply #39 on: January 22, 2015, 06:08:01 PM »
@Mark

On a shelf somewhere I imagine and he is probably sitting on his beach with an ice cold corona in hand thinking life just couldn't get any better. People who succeed don't worry about people like you and me Mark, it's all about the experience and moving forward. When I am sitting on my beach I will think of you and smile, I will think of the wonderful conversations we had and how warm the sand feels between my toes.
It is the way of our world.


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So you're offering the suppressed free energy invention conspiracy theory?  Is that it?

allcanadian

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Re: The Conspiracy Of Overunity And Overunity Reasearch
« Reply #40 on: January 22, 2015, 06:52:41 PM »
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If you think I'm impress with any of you guys, you're crazy, my point is that many of you claim to know stuff and can't even give a simple free energy unit to prove your case.[/size]I did a pulse motor build off, not to show you or any others my skills. It was Tinman that challenge me to join it. I won hands down, because I don't follow the normal building circus!I am calling out all of those that think they have what it takes to create free energy, while you all fart together I have a free energy device that creates 800 watts of solar power!


I thought you were leaving the forum?, no worries I have been in that place many times but always seem to wonder back to chat with the like minded individuals here. I find inspiration in it regardless of whether I should succeed in anything I do.


I think that you have made a great start and I do not discriminate when it comes to Energy, Energy is Energy regardless of where it may come from. In my opinion a solar cell is as much a free energy device as any other device we might imagine because we do not pay for the energy we pay for the machine to extract the energy. When I walk outside and the Sun warms me I do not pay for this it is free as are we.


I think our ultimate goal requires perspective, Energy is Energy, and we simply want a better faster way to extract it from our environment just as our forefathers made the transition from hunter/gatherer's to farmers and now we have automated hydroponics. Each incremental step requiring less work on our part and 100 years ago nobody could even imagine the solar power system you have which many take for granted. I mean think about it you are converting energy from a nearby star, our sun, directly into electrical energy.


The next logical step is to take this same solar cell concept and apply it in a system which may seem very different on the surface but is actually very similar in it's nature. We are literally swimming in a sea of energy and all which we call energy relates fundamentally to motion or change on some scale. As Faraday once said-- "it does not matter how the change occurs only that it does". As such this free energy game so many seem so preoccupied with is simply a convenient distraction. Seek change, tap into it in whatever form it may take and convert it into a form we find most useful...that is free energy in a nutshell.


I will not be pigeon-holed into believing anyone's particular notion of what they think free energy is or should be... I will decide for myself as I think we all should. Just walk outside and take a good look around and if it's moving on any level that represents Energy which is inherently free.


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allcanadian

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Re: The Conspiracy Of Overunity And Overunity Reasearch
« Reply #41 on: January 22, 2015, 07:01:04 PM »
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So you're offering the suppressed free energy invention conspiracy theory?  Is that it?


No I am offering the -- if someone offered me $30 million dollars for my device I wouldn't give a damn what you or anyone else thinks--theory. Very simple don't you think because it pretty much explains itself.


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Re: The Conspiracy Of Overunity And Overunity Reasearch
« Reply #42 on: January 22, 2015, 07:20:10 PM »
@Mark

No I am offering the -- if someone offered me $30 million dollars for my device I wouldn't give a damn what you or anyone else thinks--theory. Very simple don't you think because it pretty much explains itself.


AC
In Steven Mark's case there is no evidence that anyone ever bought him out or that anyone ever attempted to produce his claimed device. 

poynt99

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« Reply #43 on: January 22, 2015, 07:40:52 PM »
In Steven Mark's case there is no evidence that anyone ever bought him out
Nor is there evidence to support the contrary.

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or that anyone ever attempted to produce his claimed device.

Sure, many have tried. However, the most anyone could do was put together something that was a best guess as to the principle of operation and design, as Mark never came forward with enough info to attempt a true replication.

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« Reply #44 on: January 22, 2015, 07:45:12 PM »
I might add also, that a tiny battery-operated inverter would not be capable of driving the loads Mark demonstrated for the period of time that was logged in the reports.