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Author Topic: Free overunity power for LED lighting (Bigclive)  (Read 9170 times)

Pirate88179

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Free overunity power for LED lighting (Bigclive)
« on: January 17, 2015, 07:41:03 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EYE9tpv5R0

This is a video done by Bigclive (The fellow that started all of the interest in the joule thief circuit) and
the subject for this topic was quoted from the title of his video.

In this video, he shows something interesting.  Now, he is in the UK and this may have something to do
with their wiring standards over there.  Obviously some power is leaking past the open switch or there
is some other known explanation for what is happening here.

Bigclive knows a lot about electronics and electric devices and, I am sure he knows this is not really overunity.
I posted this in the measurement error area to get some ideas from folks what might be happening here.

I would guess that his power meter for his home is still registering some kind of energy use...if not, then this would be really cool.

Bill

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Re: Free overunity power for LED lighting (Bigclive)
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2015, 09:57:02 PM »
There are several things that can cause that kind of effect. There could actually be a dangerous ground fault in the house wiring. Does the LED bulb behave that way on other circuits in the home, or just in that one circuit? Are there illuminated light switches in use on that circuit, the kind where the toggle glows so you can find it in the dark? Is the socket wired correctly, with the "line" conductor connected to the switch, or does it have the "neutral" conductor connected to the switch instead?

I think Bigclive maybe should contact a good home electrician and look for ground faults or other bad wiring situations in the home. The place is evidently old construction, from looking at that ceiling rose. Squirrels in the attic?  They love to chew on the old insulation on the ancient wiring in the older homes around here.

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Re: Free overunity power for LED lighting (Bigclive)
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2015, 10:30:21 PM »
TK:

I totally agree with you.  Obviously, something is wrong over there.  I believe he said in the video, or maybe in the comments section,
that he tried it on several circuits and it worked the same.

If memory serves, Clive is, or was (possibly retired) working as an electrician.

I know that the standards are probably different over there but not that different.  Another fellow in the comments
section said that he tried this too, and it works in his house.  I have no idea where he is from.

I agree that this appears to indicate a possibly dangerous wiring problem and it should be looked in to.

Bill

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Re: Free overunity power for LED lighting (Bigclive)
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2015, 02:31:53 AM »


Squirrels in the attic?  They love to chew on the old insulation on the ancient wiring in the older homes around here.



In my apartment complex, we have a lot of squirrels.  I used to feed them peanuts in the shell and they loved this.  Then, i could no longer afford to do this,
and one day, I got in my minivan, and it started but ran very, very rough.  So, I got out and opened the hood, as I did so...a very frightened squirrel
leaped out.  Upon closer inspection, I noticed that they/he had chewed through the wires of three of my six fuel injectors!

So, to get to work on time, I had to run an extension cord out there with a soldering iron and repaired the damage.

Those bastards.

Bill

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Re: Free overunity power for LED lighting (Bigclive)
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2015, 04:08:51 AM »
I have found that some times our CFL's will flash for about 10 minutes after switch off,and these are bright flashes. About every 30 seconds they will flash brightly,then after about 10 minutes it stop's.
I have no idea as to why they do this?.

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Re: Free overunity power for LED lighting (Bigclive)
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2015, 04:10:44 AM »
I have found that some times our CFL's will flash for about 10 minutes after switch off,and these are bright flashes. About every 30 seconds they will flash brightly,then after about 10 minutes it stop's.
I have no idea as to why they do this?.

Tinman:

Funny you mentioned this.  There was a comment on this video saying basically the same thing re: CFL's.

Weird for sure.

Bill

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Re: Free overunity power for LED lighting (Bigclive)
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2015, 11:53:19 PM »
I also remember a valuable lesson i learned when installing a lighting fixture in my first house.  The light was controlled by a two-way switch set up. (2 switches, one at each end of the room.)  So, I stupidly just turned "off" the light switch before beginning my work.  It would have taken me like 3 minutes to switch off the breaker but...I was in a hurry, ha ha.

Anyway, the bottom line is that that black wire was still hot even though both of the switches were "off".  Did I test it with my meter?
No, I used my fingers and tested it while removing the wire nuts.  I still remember this lesson even though this happened some 30 years ago.

Bill