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Offline l0stf0x

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7425 on: October 24, 2016, 09:34:20 PM »
Hey Wistiti :), i use the same simple circuit.. with the 2n3055 and the resistor. I haven't made any other circuit yet.

Just build a small version of the air transformer .. :)

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7426 on: October 25, 2016, 12:51:33 AM »
Ok thank you freind!
Im on it as soon as possible!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7427 on: October 25, 2016, 06:20:34 AM »
Hello people !!  :D

Always think on so called Magnetic Field like Material substance - Material Magnetic Mass. Only mass can bear the Force Fields of any kind. So any Force Field is Matter in own nature.

In Partnered Output Coils we simple strike 2 Magnetic Fields or 2 Magnetic-masses in anti-phase manner. Tiny process known as Magnetic recconection take in place here - also like in Plasma. And is a source of Free "Energy" or precise Kinetic Magnetic Fields which do a WORK. So AIR GAP is important thing if you experiment with air wound coils in Partnered Configuration. 1mm high or less and nothing of OU effect.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7427 on: October 25, 2016, 06:20:34 AM »
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Offline l0stf0x

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7428 on: October 25, 2016, 09:23:27 AM »
I builded a small version of the transformer using two ready identical coils from microwave fan and I wounded the two secondaries.. I tested it

For some reason I cannot get current flow in the circuit. :( the meter show zero current!!
like the coils are open!?!? Can someone explain why I get 0 current with primary connected??  ???

So lets see the differences:
The circuit is the same so something wrong with primaries.

the new primaries are:
 136.8mH and 134.5mH (389 Ohm and 383 Ohm) - wire width: ~0.1mm

the big primaries of the first build (working transformer) are:
 1.95mH both (4.9 Ohm both) - wire width: ~0.9mm

So we have huge diferences here. Those new coils work at 220V. :(
But still I cannot explain the zero current, not even 1 microcurrent ?!?! Nothing! like the circuit is open :(

So lets forget about many turns and lets build a basic 1 layer each coil transformer to re-examine it !

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7429 on: October 25, 2016, 11:48:14 AM »
I made a third one, this time one layer primaries and 2 layers secondaries.
primary 30 +30 turns
secondary 60 + 60 turns

results are 3mA less and 0.1volt more with secondary sorted than open.. So there is gain but much less than the first transformer.

I will do some changes and I ll get back..

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
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Offline wistiti

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7430 on: October 25, 2016, 07:30:59 PM »
Interesting test Lostfox!
Im curious what will happen if the voltage is higher at the primary... do the output will follow the same curve or it will be exponencial...?? ???

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7431 on: October 25, 2016, 10:06:29 PM »
Hey lostfox, am really happy your are in with us too!!! :)
Really a nice clean build. Is in it strange and really interesting the fact that when fully load (short) at the output the input power is low!!! I think, just for that, this poc is a must. Im curious if the short secondary consume more power than the input...? Thank you for your great work!


Itsu, i also see than the result is not the same when using different load... There must have a kind of balancing to find...


After 2 days of finding the correct balans i give up, no better result then 80%.

I will wait for you guys to present better results, input/output/efficiency.

Regards Itsu

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Offline wistiti

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7432 on: October 26, 2016, 03:53:08 PM »
Hey Itsu, hope you will be back soon...
Thank you to have sharing your results with us.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7433 on: October 26, 2016, 04:40:25 PM »
Two opposing primaries and two opposing secondaries with space between coils.

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It is contained in a box B (Fig. 3) of thick boards of hard wood, covered on the outside with zinc sheet Z, which is carefully soldered all around. It might be advisable, in a strictly scientific investigation, when accuracy is of great importance, to do away with the metal cover, as it might introduce many errors, principally on account of its complex action upon the coil, as a condenser of very small capacity and as an electrostatic and electromagnetic screen. When the coil is used for such experiments as are here contemplated, the employment of the metal cover offers some practical advantages, but these are not of sufficient importance to be dwelt upon.

The coil should be placed symmetrically to the metal cover, and the space between should, of course, not be too small, certainly not less than, say, five centimeters, but much more if possible; especially the two sides of the zinc box, which are at right angles to the axis of the coil, should be sufficiently remote from the latter, as otherwise they might impair its action and be a source of loss.

The coil consists of two spools of hard rubber R R, held apart at a distance of 10 centimeters by bolts c and nuts n, likewise of hard rubber. Each spool comprises a tube T of approximately 8 centimeters inside diameter, and 3 millimeters thick, upon which are screwed two flanges F F, 24 centimeters square, the space between the flanges being about 3 centimeters. The secondary, S S, of the best gutta-percha covered wire, has 26 layers, 10 turns in each, giving for each half a total of 260 turns.[/size]

The two halves are wound oppositely and connected in series, the connection between both being made over the primary. This disposition, besides being convenient, has the advantage that when the coil is well balanced—that is, when both of its terminals T1 T1 are connected to bodies or devices of equal capacity—there is not much danger of breaking through to the primary, and the insulation between the primary and the secondary need not be thick.[/size]

In using the coil it is advisable to attach to both terminals devices of nearly equal capacity, as, when the capacity of the terminals is not equal, sparks will be apt to pass to the primary. To avoid this, the middle point of the secondary may be connected to the primary, but this is not always practicable.[/size]

The primary P P is wound in two parts, and oppositely, upon a wooden spool W, and the four ends are led out of the oil through hard rubber tubes t t. The ends of the secondary T1 T1 are also led out of the oil through rubber tubes t1 t1 of great thickness. The primary and secondary layers are insulated by cotton cloth, the thickness of the insulation, of course, bearing some proportion to the difference of potential between the turns of the different layers. Each half of the primary has four layers, 24 turns in each, this giving a total of 96 turns.[/size]

When both the parts are connected in series, this gives a ratio of conversion of about 1:2.7, and with the primaries in multiple, 1:5.4; but in operating with very rapidly alternating currents this ratio does not convey even an approximate idea of the ratio of the E.M.Fs. in the primary and secondary circuits. The coil is held in position in the oil on wooden supports, there being about 5 centimeters thickness of oil all round. Where the oil is not specially needed, the space is filled with pieces of wood, and for this purpose principally the wooden box B surrounding the whole is used. [/size]

It is very similar of what you are doing, guys.


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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
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Offline Utopia Now

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7434 on: October 26, 2016, 08:59:59 PM »
Also in this book .
Page 207, 208 from the book,  page 230, 231  from the pdf
 http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Reference_Material/Tesla/The_inventions_researches_and_writing_of_Nikola_Tesla.pdf

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7435 on: October 28, 2016, 04:35:43 PM »
Work in progress....
I have not as much spare time as i whant but im on the replication of lostfox air core device. I will try a different way for excite the primary poc.

For does who still working on it, how does your research go?

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Offline SkyWatcher123

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7436 on: October 28, 2016, 06:12:17 PM »
Hi wistiti, thanks for sharing and i will be watching your results.
I am working on an led light circuit from johnny aum at the moment, it uses a PNP and NPN transistor with ferrite toroid.
Though i was planning on trying a partnered output coil air core setup.
I was thinking more along the lines of an air core toroid shape, where the ends of the partnered coils meet at the center of the toroid and the primary covers one of the partnered coils, unless it will also work covering both of them, though i'm not sure that will work.
peace love light :)

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7437 on: October 28, 2016, 10:41:19 PM »

 Sky,

i could not get your proposed Sucahyo circuit to oscillate with my coils.
I tried severall resistors / transistors, but no combination would work.
Presently i have a tip33c (NPN) and a BD244c (PNP) in.


For your info,


Regards Itsu

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7438 on: October 29, 2016, 12:17:32 AM »
Hi Sky!
Im happy to ear you still whant to play with the poc!!!

All, here the secondary wrap over the primary. Each poc have 300 turns.
Ciao!

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7439 on: November 01, 2016, 02:29:02 AM »
Hi guys!
Just a little update. I have no result to share yet but i have some spare time tonight and i want to let you know about my setup. I use a reed switch to trigger the primary. I try the primary poc in a bucking way but have no good result... So i put the 2 primary coil the same way (North upside) and it seem to work. For now i have a hard time to set the magnet for it to maintain it to run... :( but when it run it seem to have a nice output. :)

To be continue...

Lostfox, does your primary are north and south upside?

 

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