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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7140 on: August 04, 2016, 06:45:56 AM »
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Reading the prior posts to this thread, we now know How Charge is Separated, Where we have Magnetic Fields; E.G; Primary, Secondary, and that the Secondary is in the opposing direction to the Primary!

We know that the Secondary Magnetic Field is only a Result of Drawing Current from the Charge Separation that we have already bought about from the Primary Magnetic Field Changing in Time!

So, its now fair to say that:

Any Magnetic Field Changing in Time Can Separate Charge

So a Secondary Magnetic Field (Lenz's Law) can be used to actually Separate More Charge Carriers!!!

Green Coil: Input Coil
Gold Coils: Partnered Output Coils - Each Coil Increases Charge Separation

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« Reply #7141 on: August 04, 2016, 11:59:02 PM »



Today I watched a copy of the Graham Gunderson Video - MIT

Graham is very humble, he deserves full credit for his work and excellent efforts presenting it.

We are very lucky, there is no way I could demonstrate my work with such quality, and accuracy that Graham has.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7142 on: August 06, 2016, 01:55:36 AM »




Graham, in this video, has told you nearly exactly what I have told you, except for the fact that Graham totally side tracked the entire topic of Output Coils!


There was not even a mention that there was two Output Coils, at all!!! <<<--- A total side track!!! Infact a deliberate lack of Pluralisation, "Output Coil"... and NOT "Output Coil's"...


Graham said instead: "I have no idea how it works"

But also admitted that the Synchronous Rectification was one of his secrets. Graham did not talk much on that, and no diagrams were shared. A start to how Sync Rect works was started. See bottom Image. What I can say, is, I think it is very similar to Tinman's RT Output Diode/Fet configuration! Tinman will know exactly what Graham is doing. If you’ve been following, so should you.

Let’s face it, the majority of the entire thing is Input!!! A Resonant Circuit, controlled by an H-Bridge, is the Prime Mover, this is attempting to add the Magnetic Flux from the Permanent Magnets to the System... See the second Image at the bottom corner...

Talk of Saturation was mentioned, or at least operating at the Knee of the ferrite Core Material, but Grahams Current Wave forms show he was nowhere near saturated, this I find very odd!!! A Coil of Wire on a Saturated Core, is simply seen as a Resistance, next to no Inductance is present, any Phase Angle between the Current and Voltage will be lost, as the Core Saturates. Phase Angle will move to Zero as the Core Saturates and the Coil of Wire is just a Resistive Element, then total Burn Out of the Transformer can occur.

This is the Reason we do the best we can to avoid Saturating Transformers!!!

No sign of any of this at all is present!!! Phase angle is not changed through the entirety of the Cycle, no indication of Current Peaking on the wave form, there is nothing to indicate at all that Saturation is reached from my bitsy little knowledge in Electronics... I really find this odd...

The majority of the entire System is Input, like I said. There is nothing new to any of this. Graham does have a Stop Time on the end of his Cycle of approximately ½ of the Wave Cycle.

We have been through this before, Reactive Power can do work, its ping pong Power.

Graham uses Ping Pong Power to get the Permanent Magnets Flux Moving in the Core Material, once moving, all, nearly all the Power returns to the Source, this is Reactive Power. VAR, or Volt Ampere Reactive Power.

So, work has been done, for next to no expenditure on the Input.

The Input side is nothing special, nothing fancy, but a lot of Circuitry and Coils/Capacitors.

The Secret lays on the small, completely side tracked in the video, Output side of the device. Again, I have said it before, Two Output Coils is critical.

Once we have a Magnetic Flux Moving, Electromagnetic Induction can be invoked as many times as we can place Coils in the proximity of the said moving Flux. But as I have told you, Graham also, it’s the Magnetic A Vector Potential that is doing this Induction, this is an Electric Field.

Remember, One AC Cycle has two Magnetisation Cycles, from North – South, to South – North. One is above the Zero Graticule Line, and one Below the Zero Graticule Line. You can say that the Current Wave Form is the Magnetisation being applied to the Core Material, this being Hysteresis, the BH Curve showing the Curve that has Sign and Magnitude of the Magnetisation.

In the below Image, we see the Input Current on the Input Coil applying a Magnetisation to the Core, marked in Red. Marked in Blue is the Opposite Current (±180 Degrees Out of Phase) on the Output Coil for this part of the Cycle. This wave form was inverted by Graham. He says in the Video. So, this is standard normal Electromagnetic Induction occurring right here. EMF = -N dPhi/dt Transformer Induction.

You can see the Wave forms carry on, there is yet more Induction occurring on the other half of the Magnetisation Cycle, and then it is Chopped via a Switch off of the Synchronous Rectification for 500-1000 Nano Seconds or 1 – 2 MHz. This from Graham.

Graham Gunderson has taken a lot of time to show you the absolute most important things that you may ever see in your life. I can 100% agree with what Graham said and has shown you. I ask you please, please pay attention, learn this stuff, there is many hundreds of hours of information to learn in Grahams Video alone.

This may be the last chance you get to learn the most important thing you ever can!!!

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« Last Edit: August 06, 2016, 11:24:53 AM by EMJunkie »

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7143 on: August 06, 2016, 02:42:19 AM »




Lenz's Law:

   Input Coil is 50Hz 240V, Secondary 12V, as soon as a Current is drawn from the Secondary, the Secondary Magnetic Field is Reflected back on the Primary Magnetic Field,  Phase Angle will reduce from Current to Voltage and more Current has to flow in the primary as a result of the said Reflection.

Negating Lenz's Law:

   Input and Secondary Invoke Induction, a Tertiary Coil is bought in, Invoking Induction again, but from the Secondary, not the Primary, Secondary and Tertiary Fields Oppose, Primary is left to excite the Device.



Thats why the Primary can stay Reactive and not be affected by the Output Power. The Energy is mostly Confined to the Immediate area of the Secondary and Tertiary Coils. These Coils Invoke Induction between themselves. All you have to do is get the Phasing and Fields correct with enough room from the Primary.


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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7144 on: August 07, 2016, 02:30:18 PM »



It is frightening how much is over looked when there are so many Geniuses in the room!!!

Diakoptics: You need to start asking the right questions, ruling out the basics!

   1.   Is the retarded, or lack of, Lenz’s Law response a function of Frequency?
   2.   Can the same device operate at 5KHz?
   3.   How could the Output Power be Real and in Phase, when the Input Power is Reactive?
   4.   What changes the Phase Angle of Voltage to Current?
   5.   …

To get answers, you need to ask the right questions; rule out the basics, what is left can be the only answer.

Simplicity is always going to be the answer to the most complex questions! An Alternator can be made to run itself with no Electrical Input at all, only mechanical, this means that the Magnetic Field can Support itself!!!

What does this mean?

The Magnetic Interactions are equal and Opposite, the Electrical Output from a System is not determined by the Electrical Input, but the Excitation Frequency and the Magnetic Flux Carrying Capability’s. Magnetic Flux Supports itself, and is not a function of any input parameter.

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Experiment:

Take a small Electric Motor. An Alternator works real nice!!!

Short the Rotor Coil.

Spin up the Shaft.

Put a load on the Stator Coil...

Result:

With no Magnetic/Electric Energy added to the system, the Magnetic Fields will build and power a load. The Magnetic Fields can Support themselves!!!


Why are the Big “Generators” more than 99% efficient? Less than 1% Losses are Frictional and Windage! Nearly all the Transformation of Energy is from Mechanical to Electrical, this is Lenz’s Law!!! The
Magnetic Field Reflected is Equal and Opposite!

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« Last Edit: August 07, 2016, 10:25:49 PM by EMJunkie »

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7145 on: August 09, 2016, 03:56:26 AM »



A test, I have seen this many times here on this forum!!!

What LED's will Light:

   D1: ?
   D2: ?
   D3: ?


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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7146 on: August 09, 2016, 06:15:38 AM »



What LED's will Light:

   D1: Yes
   D2: Yes
   D3: No


Most all Mosfets that have an internal Diode conduct in reverse. If the Diode is on, then the Mosfet conducts both ways. If a Coil becomes an active component, supplying a Voltage, a source of Current, then the Mosfet will conduct in both directions as long as it is on!

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« Last Edit: August 09, 2016, 08:26:16 AM by EMJunkie »

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« Reply #7147 on: August 09, 2016, 08:17:38 AM »



The idea here is to show, that an Active Element, in our case a Coil, or Partnered Output Coils, will Conduct via Mosfet with a Load:

   1: From Source to Drain.
   2: From Drain to Source if the Mosfet is On.

See the Circuit below:

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7148 on: August 09, 2016, 09:58:48 AM »




In analysis of Graham Gunderson's Output Circuit, and because no one else is doing it, maybe because they are stuck on the Input Circuit, I think its very important to prove facts.

The below images show that the Mosfets are directly connecting the Output Coils to the Capacitor Bank directly. As above, we see Conduction:

   1: From Source to Drain.
   2: From Drain to Source if the Mosfet is On.

If the Mosfet is off, then we still have Conduction:

   1: From Source to Drain.

The reason we see a mostly Sinusoidal Current wave up untill the Switch off of the Fet/Fets. Look for the straight edges of the Fet Legs, or Terminals, we can clearly see the Fet is directly connecting the Negative Terminal of the Capacitoors to the Coils, where the Positive Terminal is directly connected to the Coils.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
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« Reply #7149 on: August 09, 2016, 10:11:40 AM »



So, now we have proven that much, all we need to do, is apply the Right Hand Grip Rule to the CW/CCW Coils on the single Ferrrite Core...

What do we get?


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« Reply #7150 on: August 09, 2016, 11:18:05 AM »



We already know, we have the scope shots!

Much is standard Induction through the wave. Some Capacitance on the Output, may make the wave shift the Degree of Offset slightly...

Then we get a big Spike where one or both Fets are switched off. Why?

Well Graham gives us a clue, see image, from 1:05:49 in the Video.

Graham talks about using the Output Current Momentum to reverse itself. He uses a Fish Tank full of Water with a Splitter in the middle, with Water Levels different on each side.

Notice, the Input is mostly off by this stage, there is no Input only a few Milliseconds later, so there is no Input to Output Imbalance!!! But there is still Current showing on the Output Wave Form!!! This is really key to seeing that the Two Output Coils are still doing something after the spike. After the Input is off!!!

Also, the Output Current from One Coil is shown!!! The second/Other Coil could very well have a different Current Wave Form!!! See above Images.


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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7151 on: August 09, 2016, 11:38:57 AM »



In analysis of Graham Gunderson's Output Circuit, and because no one else is doing it, maybe because they are stuck on the Input Circuit, I think its very important to prove facts.

The below images show that the Mosfets are directly connecting the Output Coils to the Capacitor Bank directly. As above, we see Conduction:

   1: From Source to Drain.
   2: From Drain to Source if the Mosfet is On.

If the Mosfet is off, then we still have Conduction:

   1: From Source to Drain.

The reason we see a mostly Sinusoidal Current wave up untill the Switch off of the Fet/Fets. Look for the straight edges of the Fet Legs, or Terminals, we can clearly see the Fet is directly connecting the Negative Terminal of the Capacitoors to the Coils, where the Positive Terminal is directly connected to the Coils.

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EMJunkie,


What is the purpose of C1 ? I'm trying to do something very close to that but using HV transistors MJE13009. Do you think it is possible to get around 100W output in pure sinewave at 100V when driving such transistor with sinewave signal ? That would be the simplest pure sinewave converter.

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« Reply #7152 on: August 09, 2016, 11:49:47 AM »



So, let’s surmise, use some Magnetic Logic to try to prove some points.

Lets assume for a minute, only one Mosfet was switched off (Q2). The other Mosfet (Q1) is still on, there is Current flowing in this Coil (L2), not seen on the Scope, the Coil (L1) is Zeroed instantly by the switch off, and then instantly switched back into the Circuit, then where would the Source Magnetic Field come from - Coil (L2)?

Yes, the Coil (L1) see's the Coil (L2) as its Primary, thus the Magnetic Field still moving in time, will Invoke an Opposite EMF, seen on the Scope, in the Coil (L1) - Now, does this explain the Continuation on, of the Current Wave, and the Polarity reversal we can see on the scope? It sure does...

Is there another way we can explain the polarity reversal? - No not yet...

What will happen to the Fields between these two coils at this point in time? - Yes, they will be opposite, equal and opposite.

There is a good reason for the Off Time on the Input, there is a good reason why Graham Switched where he does the Coil (L1) Also as was said, this part is where all the excess energy comes from, as was stated, it is because of the Spike, it is responsible for the Polarity Reversal!!!

It is Critical to see the Polarity Reversal on Coil (L1) for what it really is!!!

It is possible that Graham may be getting more Energy Out than was measured also, not a lot but a bit...

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« Reply #7153 on: August 09, 2016, 11:59:43 AM »

EMJunkie,


What is the purpose of C1 ? I'm trying to do something very close to that but using HV transistors MJE13009. Do you think it is possible to get around 100W output in pure sinewave at 100V when driving such transistor with sinewave signal ? That would be the simplest pure sinewave converter.


Hi Forest, its quite possible this is just a Snubber Cap, really just a protection Cap for transients. I really find it hard to believe there is any resonant component to it as it is far to small. Mind you, at 50KHz just mabe there is enough there.

More likely the AC Caps on the output, along with the Big DC ones are possibly responsible for a Shift in Phase slightly.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7154 on: August 10, 2016, 04:10:00 AM »


So, let’s surmise, use some Magnetic Logic to try to prove some points.

Lets assume for a minute, only one Mosfet was switched off (Q2). The other Mosfet (Q1) is still on, there is Current flowing in this Coil (L2), not seen on the Scope, the Coil (L1) is Zeroed instantly by the switch off, and then instantly switched back into the Circuit, then where would the Source Magnetic Field come from - Coil (L2)?

Yes, the Coil (L1) see's the Coil (L2) as its Primary, thus the Magnetic Field still moving in time, will Invoke an Opposite EMF, seen on the Scope, in the Coil (L1) - Now, does this explain the Continuation on, of the Current Wave, and the Polarity reversal we can see on the scope? It sure does...

Is there another way we can explain the polarity reversal? - No not yet...

What will happen to the Fields between these two coils at this point in time? - Yes, they will be opposite, equal and opposite.

There is a good reason for the Off Time on the Input, there is a good reason why Graham Switched where he does the Coil (L1) Also as was said, this part is where all the excess energy comes from, as was stated, it is because of the Spike, it is responsible for the Polarity Reversal!!!

It is Critical to see the Polarity Reversal on Coil (L1) for what it really is!!!

It is possible that Graham may be getting more Energy Out than was measured also, not a lot but a bit...

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To expand further, an illustration may help understand this.

You have to ask the question:

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How can the Output Current flip, mid Cycle?


The Timing Cycle, best I can determine:

   1: (Standard Induction.png) - Input Invokes Induction, Wave in Red and Blue Shown, SW1 and SW2 are closed. Polarity dots shown are Magnetic Field Polarity just before the Spike.
   2: (Switch Off) - Input is at 261 odd degrees, nearly off. SW1 is nearly about to open, SW2 is switched off and turned back on after around 500us
   3: (Secondary Induction.png) - SW2 is on, although it doesnt matter, the Mosfet is now in reverse Conduction shown on the last page, the Polarity of the Coil has changed, Electromagnetic Induction has reversed, and L1 is L3's Primary. The Output Current Polarity reversal which is seen on the scope is as Graham describes in the Video.



Please Note: L3's Polarity is the same as L2 (The Primary) when it was on!!!



P.S: Why is Three the Magic Number? Action, Reaction and Counter-Reaction... Newton's Laws of Motion...




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