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Author Topic: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy  (Read 1971689 times)

Offline EMJunkie

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #5250 on: September 26, 2015, 10:36:20 PM »


For the poor people out there that do not know the difference between the types of Flasher, I will provide some 101 in the below pictures:

Where Pictures 1 and 2 are Thermal Type, and 3 and 4 are Electro Mechanical (Not Thermal)

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #5250 on: September 26, 2015, 10:36:20 PM »

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #5251 on: September 26, 2015, 10:38:53 PM »
Changing the shown Capacitor gives a different frequency: R X C = T, either way this is a Time Constant and it is associated with the Electromechanical Flasher.

Where:

R = Xc, Xl and Resistive components. (Impedance)
C = Capacitance in Farads.
T = One Time Constant.

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P.S: The Topic was not about the Thermal Flasher.

Chris, all time constants are not necessarily always associated with resistors and capacitors and the mechanical flasher operates on a resistor heating a bimetal switch which is doing pilot duty for the main switching relay. It is a thermal oscillator and IMO it is a stretch to say that because it has a time constant it is the same as an RC oscillator.

How would you classify the "drinking bird" oscillator?

But everyone sees things differently, such is life, live and let live.


Regards Vortex1

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #5252 on: September 26, 2015, 10:53:15 PM »
Chris, all time constants are not necessarily always associated with resistors and capacitors and the mechanical flasher operates on a resistor heating a bimetal switch which is doing pilot duty for the main switching relay. It is a thermal oscillator and IMO it is a stretch to say that because it has a time constant it is the same as an RC oscillator.

How would you classify the "drinking bird" oscillator?

But everyone sees things differently, such is life, live and let live.


Regards Vortex1

Hi Vortex1,

Again, The Topic was not about the Thermal Flasher.



Someone has piped in, without reading, and Verbally Spouted, again, without knowing anything about the Actual Topic at hand! It happens all the time!!!

Seems to me, that Prokaryotes have better attention skills than some people here, but hey, lets just Live and Let Live even if these people come in and fill the thread with Off Topic Piffle!!!


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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #5252 on: September 26, 2015, 10:53:15 PM »
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #5253 on: September 26, 2015, 11:12:28 PM »
I have followed this forum for a long time and up until recently I have had respect for milehigh and pirate88179, but now? they just seem like bullies! I think you need to back off. seriously. all the good work you have both done in the past is now being stomped on by yourselves! your making yourselves look like the bad guys. you are educated yes. but open your brain. what you know is not the only way! don't try and say that your doing justice for the community by saying everyone are scamers. what you understand is not the only way!  what this man has said is correct! he just has not said the whole truth, he told the concept but not told you how exactly how to do it! he said it from the start. so did Tinman. he knows what is being said too. Tinman said the same thing, he will tell you the basics and you need to work the rest out yourselves. if you cant work it out don't reply with your bullshit! seriously! you are both making yourselves look like idiots! help the community instead of putting them down! 

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #5254 on: September 26, 2015, 11:45:17 PM »



  350 odd pages and the thing hasn't progressed since page one!
Been good fun along the way tho',
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Offline EMJunkie

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #5255 on: September 26, 2015, 11:45:20 PM »

How would you classify the "drinking bird" oscillator?

Regards Vortex1

To answer your question, I currently don't know. I have not studied enough to say for sure.

I am guessing via Fluid Dynamics there is still a Time Constant, its not directly Resistive or Capacitive but the equivalence of Resistance and capacitance in Fluid Dynamics (Viscosity) may account for the Time Constant.

So, I have to say, I don't have an answer for sure.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #5256 on: September 26, 2015, 11:51:11 PM »


  350 odd pages and the thing hasn't progressed since page one!
Been good fun along the way tho',
                 John.


John - I feel the same way, its always the same people that bring the distractions - Just when it feels like we are getting somewhere, it happens, 5 pages of rubbish, off Topic Ramblings of Crazy People, by design or not is the question?

How's your Cows/Horses doing? Apple Tree's Good? What about your Sewage Plant? All posts that have meaning and are interesting, I like your posts...

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
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Offline Vortex1

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #5257 on: September 27, 2015, 12:28:51 AM »
Hi Vortex1,

Again, The Topic was not about the Thermal Flasher.



Someone has piped in, without reading, and Verbally Spouted, again, without knowing anything about the Actual Topic at hand! It happens all the time!!!

Seems to me, that Prokaryotes have better attention skills than some people here, but hey, lets just Live and Let Live even if these people come in and fill the thread with Off Topic Piffle!!!


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Calm down Chris, relax, enjoy the show.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #5258 on: September 27, 2015, 12:41:37 AM »
Calm own Chris, relax, enjoy the show.


Thanks Vortex1 - I am calm, just sounding the horns...

I know there are a bunch or real smart people out there, much smarter than myself.

So, lets have these people show us where the gains are, I have done the best I can to show basic math, eg: 1 + -1 + 1 = 1

Three Coils, One Input, Two Output (Partnered Output Coils), Current must be flowing for this to work!!!

I have shown many other Devices that also have been put forward over time, maybe as many as 50.

So, Smart people, come to my Table, bring your pens and pencils, lets do some real work!

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #5258 on: September 27, 2015, 12:41:37 AM »
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #5259 on: September 27, 2015, 12:44:16 AM »
@John, this is for you ole mate.

Just up the road from our house, we just received word of a Sink Hole. Displacement, where does this Mass of Earth Go? almost instantaneously! Earth Crust Displacement, Why?

Scientists will tell you: "Underground Water erodes away the soil... over time..." - LIES about why this happens

http://www.rt.com/usa/316559-california-reservoir-disappears-fish-dead/

So, chain all your cattle together... then to your apple trees...

I just got some Pics sent to me:

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #5260 on: September 27, 2015, 01:34:17 AM »
If One cubic metre of dry sand = 1.6 Tones

If each square in the grid is 1 Square Metre, and pi r squared is the area of a Circle, then the area is approximately = 3.1415926535897932384626433832795 x 60.42 = 11,461.03 Square Meters.

The Depth, if we guess, is 10 Meters, 11,461.03 x 10 Meters in guessed Depth = 114,610.3 Cubic Meters.

We could be looking at as much as: 114,610.3 x 1.6 = 183,376.48 Tones of Earth gone in less that 5 Minutes.

The average 6x4 Trailer is half a cubic meter, so to move this volume of Earth would take: 229,220.6 Trailer loads.

Of course, this is an estimate, my math I think is right, but I only checked once. Of course the guess of 10 Meters is very low and could be 10 fold. This math does not take into account the gradient of the beach.

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P.S: Fortunately everyone made it out alive from what I hear. A lot of very frightened people.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #5261 on: September 27, 2015, 02:25:21 AM »
EMJ

Could you throw up a schematic for the best performing transformer to date for your setup,and i will put one together today,and post my findings here in way of a video.

Give a list of all the materials needed,along with dimensions,and i will build it to those specifications.

Brad

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #5262 on: September 27, 2015, 02:50:28 AM »
EMJ

Could you throw up a schematic for the best performing transformer to date for your setup,and i will put one together today,and post my findings here in way of a video.

Give a list of all the materials needed,along with dimensions,and i will build it to those specifications.

Brad



Hey Brad, you already know how it works, I don't need to do any homework or thinking for you.

Like I said, three Coils, one input, two output, go for best result...

Persistence and common-sense as you already know is the key to getting a result.

If you were to break down your RT we see the same thing, three Coils, you had a Velocity component, on the Rotor, that is not directly evident in the Transformers I build, but its still there, Graham Gunderson shows it. Which I will admit I did not notice until recently.

If you visit: Click Here - You will see what I mean.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #5263 on: September 27, 2015, 03:11:29 AM »


Hey Brad, you already know how it works, I don't need to do any homework or thinking for you.

Like I said, three Coils, one input, two output, go for best result...

Persistence and common-sense as you already know is the key to getting a result.

If you were to break down your RT we see the same thing, three Coils, you had a Velocity component, on the Rotor, that is not directly evident in the Transformers I build, but its still there, Graham Gunderson shows it. Which I will admit I did not notice until recently.

If you visit: Click Here - You will see what I mean.

   Chris Sykes
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Brad:

See?  This way, when you build it and it does not work, (which it won't) he can say "You did not build it right.  Everyone else is getting overunity except you."

I know a trap when I see one...just a heads up as I know you are a decent guy.

Bill

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #5264 on: September 27, 2015, 03:22:57 AM »


Milehigh, you are 100% correct, the flasher as used in auto turn signal circuits of yesteryear is an electro thermo mechanical switching device (to be precise) that has nothing to do with an Resistor Capacitor time constant.
Anyone claiming it does exposes the depths of their ignorance. Of course they will argue otherwise by some stretches and pretzel logic.

This is incorrect,and EMJ is correct in that there were flasher units that used resistor capacitor time constants to switch a relay on and off. The speed of this switching could be changed either by changing the value of the capacitor or the resistor. In fact,the unit that used this principle of operation were not only more reliable but safer also. The thermo mechanical flasher unit will also not work with todays LED bulb's,as the current required to heat the spring loaded flip flop switchs element is to low,where as the unit that used the RC time constant to switch will work just as well with LED bulbs as it will with incandescent bulbs. The early adjustable intermittent wiper circuit uses this very same RC relay,where the fixed resistor is change out for a variable resistor to change the time off period between each cycle.

Vortex
Your comments of late are most out of caricature,and i would have thought that some one of your nature and history would have many of these RC type flasher units lying around.The fact is that there were both types,but you insist that there was only one that used the thermo mechanical operation,and that any one that argues against this has pretzel logic ??? .

Below is a pic of a relay that works on the RC time constant.You will see no heating element in there.

 

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