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Offline tinman

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #4725 on: July 19, 2015, 06:00:39 AM »
@ Luc
And anyone else that is interested.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
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Offline Spilled Fluids

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #4726 on: July 19, 2015, 06:04:08 AM »
Maybe some remedial reading and writing classes would do you some good as well?.

 
Ah,i see. You want me to stick to the limitations of !your! abilities and knowledge-->not that we have seen any of your abilities to date,other than your constant dribble.

So your an exspurt?
An ex being a !has been!
And a spurt being a !drip under pressure!

What claim's ?
I only posted measurement data as requested.
Im not hiding behind anything. What you have done is jump on the band wagon(probably just after spilling some more fluid),and have totally missed what was going to happen here. The deal was,i was to post measurements carried out as PW and MarkE requested-->best you go do some reading,and get a little education of your own.

You consider your self a guru,when in fact you are only stale bread. You are one that will go no where in life,and you will never have anything of interest to offer-->all your information is already in the books that you insist must be adhered to. You are a !go no where! person,and that is all you will ever be.

Oops! I hit too close to home didn't I? No problem, I understand how the authorities can be when some one intrudes into frequency bands they are not licensed to use. Lesson learned or are you going to continue with the charade?

I am no guru, no expert or authority but I have done enough of my own experiments( a couple of people here know of them) to be completely satisfied that OU is nothing more than a pipe dream of those who would delude themselves and any other gullible people willing to listen.

Only people who know they are on shaky ground resort to name calling and vulgarities like you are doing; it says a lot about you and your credibility.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #4727 on: July 19, 2015, 06:22:07 AM »
We are :o

It is you that infers that what i am saying is BS,yet you have no idea as to what took place.
And what makes you think that i have not completed the device ::) -->another assumption on your behalf.

I have never seen you on this forum before ,up until a few days ago. I dont know who you are,or where you came from. But here you are,mouthing off,calling me a lyre,and you want me to disclose the device and it's workings right before you LMAO. What are you? !!nuts!! Do you really think i would do something like that in front of people like your self?.
 
Not a brass razoo chance in hell.
Thats exactly what this guy wants he doesnt want you to disclose.
Ignore the Troll

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #4727 on: July 19, 2015, 06:22:07 AM »
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Offline NickZ

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #4728 on: July 19, 2015, 06:22:22 AM »
Mark.E
A laser beam.  Once again you fail.
 
   MarkE: Please direct me to where you got the idea that a laser beam has voltage and no electrons.
Or can you prove that this is so. Can you provide proof of an electron, or the lack of them? Empirical proof.
  I thought that light was composed of photons, not electrons, or voltage. Little did I know.
  Does Sun light have voltage too, and no electrons, as well.
  How can you be sure? Who can we trust,  NASA perhaps??? Your old school teacher, maybe.
   Most everything that NASA has done and said, has been lies. 

   There are no OU prizes being awarded.  Must mean that there are no self running devices, either.
  Kapanadze, Akula, Ruslan, Stepanov, Sr 193, Vasmus, etz... All a bunch of fakes. Right?
 I've never seen a self runner. Have you?  They must not exist then, or someone would have won the prize.
   Same thing with ghosts,and spirits,  just peoples imagination. No proof. Just BS. 
  Telepathy, no not that as well. No proof.
   Can you Mark, prove to me that what we call "SunLight" comes from the Sun? 
Really, how?

Offline hoptoad

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #4729 on: July 19, 2015, 06:30:04 AM »
Er you seem to have truncated the complete sentence.  Please allow me to quote the full sentence for you:

"Voltage is a representation of the electric potential energy per unit charge. " 

Voltage is a measure of the ratio of energy to charge.  It is neither the energy nor the charge.  But that was a nice attempt to misrepresent by conveniently truncating the statement mid-sentence.
Aah, no, there is no attempt to misrepresent anything. If I were attempting to misrepresent then I wouldn't have posted the link to the full explanation.

It is you who is attempting to misrepresent as I see it. But que sera, I'm interested in the subject matter here, not all the ad hominem that is freely flowing between yourself and others. Nor am I interested in your attempt to define only the part of a sentence which you deem applicable while ignoring the rest. Simply highlighting one part changes nothing. I can do that too.

"Voltage is a representation of the electric potential energy per unit charge."

Here is the full entry, with some more highlighting.

Definition:Voltage is a representation of the electric potential energy per unit charge. If a unit of electrical charge were placed in a location, the voltage indicates the potential energy of it at that point. In other words, it is a measurement of the energy contained within an electric field, or an electric circuit, at a given point.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #4729 on: July 19, 2015, 06:30:04 AM »
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Offline Spilled Fluids

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #4730 on: July 19, 2015, 06:35:47 AM »
Mark.E
A laser beam.  Once again you fail.
 
   MarkE: Please direct me to where you got the idea that a laser beam has voltage and no electrons.
Or can you prove that this is so. Can you provide proof of an electron, or the lack of them? Empirical proof.
  I thought that light was composed of photons, not electrons, or voltage. Little did I know.
  Does Sun light have voltage too, and no electrons, as well.
  How can you be sure? Who can we trust,  NASA perhaps??? Your old school teacher, maybe.
   Most everything that NASA has done and said, has been lies. 

   There are no OU prizes being awarded.  Must mean that there are no self running devices, even.
 I've never seen one. Have you?  They must not exist then, or someone would have won the prize.
   Same thing with ghosts,and spirits,  just peoples imagination. No proof. Just BS. 
  Telepathy, no not that as well. No proof.
  God must be a story as well then. No proof.  Show me God, then I'll believe it.

Swedish scientists have actually photographed electrons...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofp-OHIq6Wo

I don't know about ghosts, spirits, telepathy or any other paranormal activities although I am skeptical.

As for god, well that is just a superstitious construct made up by ancient priests as a way to control the masses.
Bibles, korans, torahs or any other 'sacred' tomes are all written by men and for the same purposes.; mostly political as in the case of the christian bible.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #4731 on: July 19, 2015, 06:46:15 AM »
thanks tinman
hopefully people will be able to reproduce it

To what end? There are already good generators with 95% efficiency or better. There are no generators capable of producing more output than is input and there never will be in this universe.
If this generator can produce output at 95% or better and at a lower cost of construction then it may be marketable and maybe even make tinman some coin. But first he will have to shield the unit so it doesn't broddcast in regulated frequency bands.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #4732 on: July 19, 2015, 06:48:04 AM »
Oops! I hit too close to home didn't I? No problem, I understand how the authorities can be when some one intrudes into frequency bands they are not licensed to use. Lesson learned or are you going to continue with the charade?



Only people who know they are on shaky ground resort to name calling and vulgarities like you are doing; it says a lot about you and your credibility.

And yet it was you that came in with guns blazing,calling me a liar.Your kind is well known in these forum's. First you start to insult people(without any knowledge of past tense),and then turn it all around to make them sound like the bad guy-->nice try,but epic fail.

Post some of your work here,so as we may judge you as you have judged some of us.
My guess is you wont,as you have nothing to show to back up your !big! words of wisdom.

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I am no guru, no expert or authority but I have done enough of my own experiments( a couple of people here know of them) to be completely satisfied that OU is nothing more than a pipe dream of those who would delude themselves and any other gullible people willing to listen.

Time to save face SF.
Please re post the post where i stated that i have an OU device.
Also note that your inadequate experiments are in no way any reference to what is possible and what is not.

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OU is nothing more than a pipe dream of those who would delude themselves and any other gullible people willing to listen.

Delusion lies within those that believe that we know all there is to know<--you are one of these people.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #4733 on: July 19, 2015, 06:53:18 AM »
Mark.E
A laser beam.  Once again you fail.
A laser beam is a moving E/M wavefront.  It seems it is you who need to dust off the books.
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   MarkE: Please direct me to where you got the idea that a laser beam has voltage and no electrons.
See above.
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Or can you prove that this is so. Can you provide proof of an electron, or the lack of them? Empirical proof.
Given the thousands upon thousands of laser references you should not have any any problem locating references on the Transverse Electromagnetic Mode: TEM mode of laser propagation.
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  I thought that light was composed of photons, not electrons, or voltage. Little did I know.
That's right photons and not electrons.  And yet it is a propagating electromagnetic wave front.  And that is the point.
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  Does Sun light have voltage too, and no electrons, as well.
Visible light and non-visible E/M radiation from the sun is carried by photons dude.
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  How can you be sure? Who can we trust,  NASA perhaps??? Your old school teacher, maybe.
   Most everything that NASA has done and said, has been lies. 
LOL, believe any kind of nonsense that you want.
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   There are no OU prizes being awarded.  Must mean that there are no self running devices, even.
 I've never seen one. Have you?  They must not exist then, or someone would have won the prize.
It certainly raises question as to why if someone has one that works that they have not made themselves fantastically rich and powerful with such a device.
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   Same thing with ghosts,and spirits,  just peoples imagination. No proof. Just BS. 
Got objective evidence?
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  Telepathy, no not that as well. No proof.
Got objective evidence?
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  God must be a story as well then. No proof.  Show me God, then I'll believe it.
If you want to believe in sky people screwing with your life for their amusement and vanity, you are free to do so.  Are these sky people kind and loving, or are they vain, arbitrary, and hateful?  Do they pick favorites and tell those favorites that they are privileged to: cheat, , and murder their fellow humans?  Is your distrust of NASA due to manned and unmanned spacecraft alike not bumping into these sky people?

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #4733 on: July 19, 2015, 06:53:18 AM »
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #4734 on: July 19, 2015, 06:59:12 AM »
Aah, no, there is no attempt to misrepresent anything. If I were attempting to misrepresent then I wouldn't have posted the link to the full explanation.
LOL, yet you truncated the sentence completely changing its meaning:  FAIL.
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It is you who is attempting to misrepresent as I see it. But que sera, I'm interested in the subject matter here, not all the ad hominem that is freely flowing between yourself and others. Nor am I interested in your attempt to define only the part of a sentence which you deem applicable while ignoring the rest. Simply highlighting one part changes nothing. I can do that too.

"Voltage is a representation of the electric potential energy per unit charge."

Here is the full entry, with some more highlighting.

Definition:Voltage is a representation of the electric potential energy per unit charge. If a unit of electrical charge were placed in a location, the voltage indicates the potential energy of it at that point. In other words, it is a measurement of the energy contained within an electric field, or an electric circuit, at a given point.

Cheers
Yep, that is what the whole thing says.  And you either do not comprehend, or simply choose to ignore what you have quoted.  See the "of it at that point"  the "it" being the charge?  If you want to put on blinders you are free to do so. 

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #4735 on: July 19, 2015, 07:00:49 AM »
And yet it was you that came in with guns blazing,calling me a liar.Your kind is well known in these forum's. First you start to insult people(without any knowledge of past tense),and then turn it all around to make them sound like the bad guy-->nice try,but epic fail.

Post some of your work here,so as we may judge you as you have judged some of us.
My guess is you wont,as you have nothing to show to back up your !big! words of wisdom.

Time to save face SF.
Please re post the post where i stated that i have an OU device.
Also note that your inadequate experiments are in no way any reference to what is possible and what is not.

Delusion lies within those that believe that we know all there is to know<--you are one of these people.

This is the OverUNity forum so by extension when you post your device or ideas here they are automatically being put forward as OU. I never said you said your device was OU; what I did say is that OU is not possible.

Posting any of my experiments here would serve no purpose since they did not produce over unity. Besides, I'm not the one making any claims; now who is turning things around? Smooth move.
If you really care you can search them out on R-G.

I am probably one of the last people that think they know everything so I'm not the deluded one here or anywhere.

In closing there is only one thing to say; post up or shut up. Either way you will be shown for what you are; completely mistaken or an outright fraud.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #4735 on: July 19, 2015, 07:00:49 AM »
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #4736 on: July 19, 2015, 07:04:35 AM »
A laser beam is a moving E/M wavefront.
snip...

So now you are trying to conflate a massless electromagnetic wavefront with an actual electron particle which has mass. Your ability to define things your own way seems to know no bounds.
Personally I'll stick with accepted physics definitions of what constitutes an electron and what constitutes an electromagnetic wave.

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« Reply #4737 on: July 19, 2015, 07:08:50 AM »
So now you are trying to conflate a massless electromagnetic wavefront with an actual electron particle which has mass. Your ability to define things your own way seems to know no bounds.
Personally I'll stick with accepted physics definitions of what constitutes an electron and what constitutes an electromagnetic wave.

More remedial reading and comprehension courses required here.

I do not see any of what you have imagined in anything Mark wrote. Try passing it through a comprehension app and see if you understand then.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #4738 on: July 19, 2015, 07:09:42 AM »



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To what end? There are already good generators with 95% efficiency or better. There are no generators capable of producing more output than is input and there never will be in this universe.

Such a small mind-one that has a single line of thinking.
ALL generators are 100% efficient-->your own laws of thermodynamics say this is true. Your tunnel vision is what sends people off in the wrong direction. You see only 1 energy output from a given input-->another epic fail on your behalf.

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If this generator can produce output at 95% or better and at a lower cost of construction then it may be marketable and maybe even make tinman some coin. But first he will have to shield the unit so it doesn't broddcast in regulated frequency bands.

Oh dear-another mishap. What is a broddcast?. Seems we both need some remedial reading/writing classes. Fancy having a stab at some ones writing skills when making the very same mistakes lol.
That's broadcast by the way ;)
1.transmit (a programme or some information) by radio or television.
2.scatter (seeds) by hand or machine rather than placing in drills or rows.
 
noun
a radio or television programme or transmission.
 
adjective
relating to radio or television programmes.
 
adverb
by scattering.

And by the way. Could you also re post the post where i(yes,me) said anything about this broadcasting of radio waves.
Once again,your inability to read has put you in another pickle.
Your starting to make yourself look bad.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #4739 on: July 19, 2015, 07:10:34 AM »
Lots of people seem to be upset that tinman has not exposed more than what he has.  I am not one of those people.  He has largely done what he promised to do.  He offers a curious presentation that appears to be at odds with science that has been proven countless times.  I thank him for the demonstration. But I have no expectation that the demonstrations threaten known physics.  If we all start flying around in vehicles powered by Mr. Tinman power generators then my expectations will be proven wrong.  If nothing comes of it, then my expectations will be fulfilled.

 

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